NEWS: Racial Riots Erupt In Sydney Australia

Around my area you get the Leb's in gangs of 20 bashing 1 guy, it's ridiculous.

Originally posted by Mayet
I said reports in my sentence. I am totally right to say reports, because I have reports that this has happened from people in the area and people present. You seem to be spending a lot of time here picking apart what I have to say which is rather strange.

I'm just curious how the hell would these people you're speaking know that 2 policeman had been shot ? just one example.

What is also strange is when I seem to show you my proof of one point you go and find another instead of contributing and reporting what you are seeing with your eyes.

What proof, I still haven't seen any.

Have you got into your car and driven down to see whats happening at all so you can add you bit of eyewitness reporting to the thread or are you just going to pick on everything i say.

I'm going to be the sensible one here and not jump on the sensationalist bandwagon and treat hearsay as fact.

Originally posted by Mayet

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Just look at the hate on these peoples faces. Turn the color of the skin around, and you could be forgiven that you were in Basrah or Baghdad when the rioting took place among the locals. How many people in the Western World made comments when that happened? I bet some of these rioters also had something to say about it too, yet they are doing the exact same thing.

Sorry for the rant, but racism really gets up my nose. I hate it with a passion.

Heres me thinking we were better than that. Obviously not.

Originally posted by Bikereddie
Sorry for the rant, but racism really gets up my nose. I hate it with a passion.

So I assume that you condemn the Lebanese just as much as those rioters?
They sem to be the real racist ones, attacking young volunteer lifeguards who were doing nothing wrong.

As bad as that picture you posted might be, how about the man that was stabbed in the back by 'persons of middle eastern appearance'?

news.com.au

The police spokesman said: "The 23-year-old man was with friends outside a golf club when a group of males of Mediterranean or Middle Eastern appearance approached him.

"Following a short conversation the 23-year-old sustained stab wounds. Police are appealing for help from anyone who witnessed the incident."

I thought that the Cops knew about this and said it wasn't going to happen, and if it did they could stop it.

Yep, they're reliable Police.

Originally posted by AceOfBase

Originally posted by Bikereddie
Sorry for the rant, but racism really gets up my nose. I hate it with a passion.

So I assume that you condemn the Lebanese just as much as those rioters?
They sem to be the real racist ones, attacking young volunteer lifeguards who were doing nothing wrong.

As bad as that picture you posted might be, how about the man that was stabbed in the back by 'persons of middle eastern appearance'?

As i said above, i detest racism in any form, by any creed, colour or nation.
Point made i think.

Originally posted by mad scientist

Originally posted by Mayet
I said reports in my sentence. I am totally right to say reports, because I have reports that this has happened from people in the area and people present. You seem to be spending a lot of time here picking apart what I have to say which is rather strange.

I'm just curious how the hell would these people you're speaking know that 2 policeman had been shot ? just one example.

*sigh you dont listen do you. I said reports. I showed the report.I am sure you are curious as to where they got their info. Don't shoot the messenger. I will report a report and be honest and say its a report if I have a report of such a report. Lets look at it this way. Have you got proof that it didn't happen. if so you are welcome to post away and contribute your information. Just because no official word of this has come thru it does not mean a thing. This report may be wrong this report may be right. But its a report and that is what I report on. Without bias.

What proof, I still haven't seen any.

No you seem determined to sit there and attack every word I say instead of contributing your own reports. Thats fine but there's a bed behind me I am going to go sleep on right now, Anymore bits you feel the need to attack me on will just have to wait until morning for my response. But really I'd much rather you got on with it and contributed your own info to the thread instead of scratching away at mine.

Have you got into your car and driven down to see whats happening at all so you can add you bit of eyewitness reporting to the thread or are you just going to pick on everything i say.

I'm going to be the sensible one here and not jump on the sensationalist bandwagon and treat hearsay as fact.

Geez yup sensationalism, hmm well is that photo above sensationalized, is the pictures of all the smashed cars and roadblocks sensationalized? Has the police stopping middle easterns from entering the area sensationized? Were the pictures of thousands of people chanting and slogans held and written on cars sensationalized? Were the pictures of riot police being pelted and others swinging batons trying to contain crowds and get them away from them sensationalized? Was the story of the man arriving at hospital with a knife still sticking out his back sensationalized? Was the police chief of NSW saying how un Australian the riots are sensationalized? Was the comments being made by hundreds of people sensationalized? Was the man saying how his father had faught for this land against these peopel sensationalized? Were the "Lebs get out chants" by hundreds sensationalized?

Sensible? Well I am so glad your a sensible person cos none of this stuff is... Not one bit of any of it.

Ooh on the news just now reports of gun involvment and two police injured in an incident. hmm. Now I didn't catch all that report fully but I am sure we will know more by morning.



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ABOUT BLOODY TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Mayet
Geez yup sensationalism, hmmwell is that photo sensationalized, is the pictures of all the smashed cars and roadblocks sensationalized? Has the police stopping middle easterns from entering the area sensationized?

Well, where are these pictures You hvaen't posted any of them and I haven't seen any pictures of half the stuff you claim.

Were the pictures of thousands of people chanting and slogans held and written on cars sensationalized? Were the pictures of riot police being pelted and others swinging batons trying to contain crowds and get them away from them sensationalized? Was the story of the man arriving at hospital with a knife still sticking out his back sensationalized? Was the police chief of NSW saying how un Australian the riots are sensationalized? Was the comments being made by hundreds of people sensationalized? Was the man saying how his father had faught for this land against these peopel sensationalized? Were the "Lebs get out chants" by hundreds sensationalized?

Hmm well lets see, were 2 police supposedly being shot sensationlised Were the reports of the riots spreading out of control by you sensationalised YES.
You're the one deviating from any fact whatsoever and and making this stuff up.

There are video links in the top right of this page, by abc.net.au.

Sanc'.

Race riots spread from the beach to the suburbs
RACIAL violence erupted in several Sydney suburbs last night in retaliation for a rampage by thousands of young residents through Cronulla that turned the seaside suburb into a battlefield.

Political, community and religious leaders joined stunned locals to condemn an afternoon of violence by a crowd that turned on people of Middle Eastern appearance and those trying to protect them, with police and ambulance officers also attacked.

As the violence spread, police cars raced through Sydney streets from Cronulla to Miranda, Brighton-le-Sands, Rockdale, Maroubra, Woolooware and Tempe. Police said they had received reports of firearms being "flashed" threateningly but not discharged. "So far we have had no one shot," an officer said

you havent read one link I have posted have you. *sighs again. Please Sir Please can you read the above link. Take careful note of the title of that report. Also please take notice of the amount of time in that report it says the riots have SPREAD. Oh and look there is mention of firearms. Police also have had reports of Guns. No mention of the two officers in there but as I said I reported on a report that said there was. Who is wrong who is right, the person that reported what I reported or what the police are reporting time will tell but as said it was reported.

Now seeing as it must be as difficult to read photo galleries found on most news feeds as it is to read links I have posted, i thought i would find some pics for you seeing as you so graciously asked. A bedtime pictorial so to speak.

www.smh.com.au...
Each of the major news services has large picture galleries of the events.

www.smh.com.au...
SMH
Neo Nazi's
seven.com.au...

Honest instead of trying to shred me, mayhaps you should do some reading and contributing yourself.



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Originally posted by Mayet
you havent read one link I have posted have you. *sighs again. Please Sir Please can you read the above link. Take careful note of the title of that report. Also please take notice of the amount of time in that report it says the riots have SPREAD. Oh and look there is mention of firearms. Police also have had reports of Guns. No mention of the two officers in there but as I said I reported on a report that said there was.

You said, that shots had been fired and 2 policemen were shot as well. That article you quoted is all inuendo and seems to hvae been sydicated out to many of the news agencies. All their sites seem to hvae the same story.

Now seeing as it must be as difficult to read photo galleries found on most news feeds as it is to read links I have posted, i thought i would find some pics for you seeing as you so graciously asked. A bedtime pictorial so to speak.

Thanks for the pics, but they shed no light on your other claims. I have seen plenty of pictures of the Cronulla incident but there are no pictures from any opther sunurbs. Where are the pictures of the hundred cars supposedly smashed up in Brighton-Le-Sands ?

Honest instead of trying to shred me, mayhaps you should do some reading and contributing yourself.

I'm not shredding you, I just want some accountability in the thread.

i hate how gangs (and lets face it, most 'gangs' in australia are of another nationality ie non-aussie) always use power of numbers wen they attack someone...anyone in perth would know of the regular incidents in northbridge, and everytime its a hellofa lotta ppl on a few ppl, never is it even. never do the asian/aboriginal/leb/whatever else gangs just hunt in 2's or 3's...well 3's if theyre attacking 1 person! this is pretty much fact! and when ur walking around northbridge (which 4 those who dont know is actually in the heart of perth, not just so outlying suburb) it is gangs of these races, and u dont wanna look sideways at em for fear of them all coming up to u!

someone said about them all coming over here and not adopting to the australian way of life, our culture, etc etc, and then having a big cry when they're not allowed to do their thing! how man schools r not allowed 2 celebrate christmas because of the other nationalities in the school having a big whinge? more and more nowadays! hello, if we went to ur country we'd have to adopt ur way of life, we couldnt tell u wat 2 do or else we'd b in jail! so do the same thing wen u come here! australia is not something u can change to meet ur needs, we have our own culture with different values and religion, so dont try to change it or make it like the country u came from! i'm sick of it!

one thing i noticed of the news in this case was the cops sorta letting it slide... its like (in movies) where it shows in a prison the prisoners bashing the hell outta someone and the guards pretend not to notice, coz they figure theyre gettin wat they deserve.

ok i dont like that ppl suddenly attack all the muslims coz of the iraq war, and attack all of one nationality coz of the few idiots. hell if everyone did that we'd all b screwed coz they'd bash us for john howard being a twit!

so yeah, in some cases retribution is deserving when the cops couldnt do anything to them anyway...specially if a kid is under 18, u guys know how stupid the childrens courts r?! but it doesnt mean u attack everyone of that nationality, just the ones who did that 2 u. and in any fight, it should b equal, none of these whole gangs onto 3 ppl, not unless the 3 ppl have machetes

I am concerned about your use of the words "attack" and "shred", etc... in regard to Madscyentist asking for clarification. I do NOT see him "attacking" YOU, he is questioning the "reports" you are reporting to put it in your own words...

I think it's perfectly logical for someone who is "on the scene" as well as he indicated he is, to question the information he reads here when it conflicts with what he is seeing and hearing.

For you to turn that into some sort "personal attack against you" is simply wrong and makes me wonder what your motives are.

Collaborative discusison does NOT mean anyone who disagrees with you or questions your information is attacking you.

Madscyentist has been extremely logical and very polite in his querries and does NOT deserve to be accused of attacking ANYONE.

Springer...

Mad Scientist,

If you had indeed watched the news as you said you did on all the channels tonight, they reported for a whole five minutes of the cars being smashed, then you would see that all I have said is true and correct. Channel ten late news had four mobile reporters reporting live from four different suburbs and the coverage went for at least ten to fifteen minutes on just the riots alone.

. Mayhaps you missed that when when you said you had seen every channel tonight.

You want some accountability in this thread? I gave accountability from an eyewitness. Its even posted on the internet. My original statement said there were reports. I never ever once stated its a fact there are police shot or anything near like that. I showed where that report came from. I said reports and there are reports. I gave accountability for evry single thing I posted. You have seemingly not read any links or looked for yourself.

Now I know there are cars smashed. Many many cars smashed and damaged Actually channel ten news said every second car in the street they were on were damaged, and had pictures and I know when I wake up in the morning there will be many pictures and news reports showing this.

I have shown the links of Brighton Le Sands riotsing, of Cronulla rioting of Maroubra rioting. I have shown evidence, I have shown sources but still you do not see what is in front of your eyes, or you refuse to read for yourself. Google has many sources.

I have also shown every single other thing I have said and shown backup sources.

Now its quite enough. I am off to bed. I will leave you to peruse the news reports for yourself and see that everything I have said is true and how I said it. Without bias.

Spinger.

I have repeatedly in this thread shown for mad acientist to see for himself. It is all over the news here on tv, massive coverage and mad scientist professed to have watched it but still discounts what I say. He says he is in the area but Sydney is one of the largest cities in Australia. I too have family in the area, and am in close contact with many in the immediate area. I have spoken to people watching it out their windows. I have spoken to people talking of becoming involved themselves. I have spoken to people saying they want to get out because they are scared.

I have shown my sources and shown links. All our local news feeds are saying exactly what I am saying. The matter comes when I show something, and it is ignored when it is shown everywhere here and still I am asked for accountability yet it is shown.

mad Scientist
Were the reports of the riots spreading out of control by you sensationalised YES.
You're the one deviating from any fact whatsoever and and making this stuff up.

Posted By mayetTonight hundreds of Middle eastern people are driving in the Eastern suburbs smashing cars and and there are reports of shootings with Australians being bashed in restaurants. The rioting has spread to other suburbs and all police available have been called into the area to help contain the violence.
answer quote: Mad Sceintist - Just where did you get this information ? Because it is completely wrong, none of what you're stating above has happened. I thought this was a place fo non-fiction not fiction

It is the "prove it" thing of which I have duly done and shown proof, time and time again. But yet still here we have someone discounting everything said and at the same time saying they are in the area and these events did not happen. Flat out Accusing me of making things up when it's clear all this did happen. I do consider that not just to be an opinion but a statement accusing me of lying.

I have backed up everything in my original post. Everything hs been sourced in this thread with backup evidence. There has been no lie, no making it up. So I am sorry if I offended but what polite and logical means to me is not accusing someone of lying, deviating from fact and making things up when their not and the person does not know for sure even that they had. Because they hadn't. Thats not questioning my reports, by accusing me of deviating from truth and making things up it is questioning my integrity.





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Now all we need is for a staged rioting here in the states, and bam genocide against Islam will be authorized in the western world.

Its all a setup. Corrupt officials hire two traitors to commit a crime so their race can be used as a scapegoat. Its happening all over the place now. I am sure it will be their fault when the global economy crashes also.

Just a little more info, and additional confirmation of details from Reuters.

Racial tensions spark Sydney beach violence Source: Reuters

11 Dec 2005 15:22:04 GMT
(Updates violence hits 2nd beach, more arrests, more quotes)

By Michael Perry

SYDNEY, Dec 11 (Reuters) - Racial tension erupted into violence on a Sydney beach on Sunday when around 5,000 people, some yelling racist chants, attacked youths of a Middle Eastern background, saying they were defending their stretch of beach.

Thousands of local surfers and beachgoers gathered at Cronulla Beach after two young lifesavers were attacked last Sunday by a group of young men from Sydney's western suburbs.

By Sunday night, violence had spread to a second beach, Maroubra, where men armed with baseball bats smashed cars. Police said a man was stabbed in the back in south Sydney in what media reports said appeared to be further racial violence.

Sydney's Islamic community blamed the violence at Cronulla Beach on "racist and irresponsible" sections of the media which turned a common youth issue into an issue of ethnicity.

I have been showing the following all along.

A 23-year-old man was with friends when he was stabbed in the back outside a Woolooware golf club, police said.
Two cars carrying a group of males, described as being of Mediterranean or Middle Eastern appearance, approached the man at about 10.25pm (AEDT) last night.

At about the same time, more than fifty carloads of men, believed to be of Middle Eastern appearance, descended on Maroubra beach.
Wielding baseball bats and metal bars, they smashed cars along Maroubra Road, leaving in their wake a trail of destruction.

Please note about the cars damaged and the fifty carloads.

Glass littered the streets and almost 100 cars had smashed windscreens and dented side panels.

As police moved to contain the violence, more outbreaks surfaced at Bay Street, Brighton Le Sands, where officers in riot gear were called in to contain angry mobs.
"People starting pelting police with bricks and glass," said a 17-year-old local, who wished only to be known as Phil.
Police, armed with plastic shields and dogs, moved a group of young men down a neighbouring street where they got into cars parked at a petrol station.

After being ejected from Brighton Le Sands, cars full of youths of Middle Eastern appearance are reported to have descended on the site of yesterday's violence.

Please Read Links
www.news.com.au...
SMH

Originally posted by mad scientist
Just where did you get this information ? Because it is completely wrong, none of what you're stating above has happened. I thought this was a place fo non-fiction not fiction

None of it?

Originally posted by Mayet
Tonight hundreds of Middle eastern people are driving in the Eastern suburbs smashing cars

At about the same time, more than fifty carloads of men, believed to be of Middle Eastern appearance, descended on Maroubra beach.

news.com.au

50 car loads of men would be hundreds of people, and they were Middle Eastern.

Originally posted by Mayet
The rioting has spread to other suburbs

RACE-fuelled violence spilled into other Sydney beaches tonight.
A police media spokesman confirmed there had been problems at Maroubra beach, following the near-riot at Cronulla beach earlier today.

Violence Spreads In Sydney

Thats atleast two parts of this occurance you flat out accused of being "completely wrong" and "fiction". Is it fair to say that in actual fact it is you who are indeed wrong here? Please try to contribute to the thread rather than cast spurious claims of "fiction" from the authour

Originally posted by subz

Originally posted by mad scientist
Just where did you get this information ? Because it is completely wrong, none of what you're stating above has happened. I thought this was a place for non-fiction not fiction

None of it?

Please quote accurately You completely skipped the part of Mayets post, which I was responding to

That's at least two parts of this occurrence you flat out accused of being "completely wrong" and "fiction". Is it fair to say that in actual fact it is you who are indeed wrong here? Please try to contribute to the thread rather than cast spurious claims of "fiction" from the author

It still maybe, a couple of reports to a radio talk show doesn't make it fact It's 4:30 am here now, I doubt any new information has come out.
Am I wrong, I don't think so. There may be problems but not nearly as sensational as you and others may like. As for being wrong, I haven't heard of people shooting guns or that 2 policemen had been shot So yes, I believe I'm right.
I don't even think the media knows what's going on, several of the stories on the media sites have been repeated over and over again with no new information.



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