NEWS: Toledo Police Ready for Neo-Nazi Group's Return

Members of a neo-Nazi group are planning a rally in Toledo, Ohio this afternoon to protest their treatment during a previous rally in October. Two months ago the group's planned march sparked a four-hour riot that ended with businesses burned and looted, and bricks thrown at police and an ambulance driver. Anti-racist groups are also planing a counterdemonstration Saturday to shout down the white supremacists.





Fortunately the groups protesting the radicals have stated they will maintain peaceful demostrations from a distance as long as the radicals stay out of the mixed racial areas where Octobers protest took place.

Weather may also be a helping factor here, so lets hope no violence breaks out.




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Hmm, I never would have guessed that Toledo, Ohio was a Nazi hotbed.

They have the right to gather and speak, no matter how offensive their speech might be, but if they start acting violent again, they need to be all rounded up and arrested.

I guess it's a matter of terminology, but it has always confused me why the National Socialist Movement, a Nazi organization has the term "socialist" in it - I thought that "socialism" was an antithesis of nazism or fascism. I guess I need to read up on my poli-sci.

It looks like Police are not taking any chances they have already made 7 arrests.



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Originally posted by djohnsto77
Hmm, I never would have guessed that Toledo, Ohio was a Nazi hotbed.

They have the right to gather and speak, no matter how offensive their speech might be, but if they start acting violent again, they need to be all rounded up and arrested.

they didn`t riot first time round but you want to round them up??

It's all over now, and all the arrests were of anti-Nazi counterprotesters -- apparently none of the Nazis were arrested.

Originally posted by intelgurl
I guess it's a matter of terminology, but it has always confused me why the National Socialist Movement, a Nazi organization has the term "socialist" in it - I thought that "socialism" was an antithesis of nazism or fascism. I guess I need to read up on my poli-sci.

No you don't they need to read up on it.

Originally posted by intelgurl
I guess it's a matter of terminology, but it has always confused me why the National Socialist Movement, a Nazi organization has the term "socialist" in it - I thought that "socialism" was an antithesis of nazism or fascism.

The best way that I like to think of it is as, rather than there beign a political line with left and right, to have a political circle. Go on one direction and its leftish and in the opposite its rightist, but eventually these things meet each other on the other end.

Nazism and Fascism make good useage of socialist ideas and practices. In either, the State is whats supreme and the state is what it providing for the people and regulating them and the centrally planned economy. Nazism in germany back then was rabidly anti-communist, but in the end the two camps wanted the same stuff. Whereas the communists put the public as a class in control of the property and means of production, the nazis put the state, which after all is the people together, in control of property and the economy. THis is why sometimes nazi propaganda against england and america can sound like communist rants, screeds about the 'corporations' and the 'monied powers'.

ALso, "fascism" is derived from the word 'fasces', which was a symbol of the power of the state and an italian word for 'peasant' or 'field worker' or some such. So the system was 'for the people' in its intent. Very socialist in fact. Nationalism on its own is just saying that the nation itself needs attention from the citizenry and government. So National Socialist is definitlely an interseting term, as you note.