How many of us are there?

Concerning the whole conspiracy about the creation of the Federal Reserve and the international financeers that run it.

The more I read the more convinced I become that we, the people, are being screwed sideways into working as slave labor.

How many of us are there?

I know that a conspiracy site isn't the best place to gauge support, since it is inherently biased. But how many 'outsiders' (outside ATS i mean) have you discussed it with? How many seemed interested/concerned about it?

Everyone I seem to discuss it with just becomes instantly jaded as they listen to the rantings of a 'consporacy nut'. How can we make people listen

Well, I'm a 22 yo Canadian university student. I don't consider myself to be ignorant or stupid. I think this theory has legs. I think there are far too many coincidences for this to be a fabrication. Kennedy, the proximity between the creaton of the FED and WW1 and the depression of 1914. It's bleep.


Mod Edit: Profanity removed.

[edit on 10-12-2005 by UM_Gazz]

it would be an obvious concurement to automatically assume that the federal reserve is only hording the wealth for means of financing their black budget underground secret scientific endevors. whenever they have a lead onto somethings underground they automattically tip into the federal reserve through scientific directories and push the project to get the funds pouring in. am i right?

[edit on 10-12-2005 by sturod84]

here are some threads for refresher courses concerning the federal reserve...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

politics.abovetopsecret.com...

politics.abovetopsecret.com...






[edit on 10-12-2005 by sturod84]

through corperate propagation, a NWO will come to fruition. the federal backed underground scientific doctrines and integration of technology will foister a one world government. no need for bankers, they have protocals which will distinguiesh the proper allocation of funds to different research and development aspects.

We work for slave labour, there are good jobs in both Canada and the US. Ones that pay well, its not as if these jobs that people are working are for peanuts. It all comes down to education really, education is the road to prosperity and no one can dertermine you success there but you. As for the conspiracy of the federal reserve, I'll have to read up on that before I can comment. But I dont feel like I'm being "Screwed Sideways," I have a good life, Im a college student as well as you are. I'm getting my education so that I can determine my own destiny and success in life. I dont believe some conspiracy is holding me back in any way. Sure there are setbacks here and there, but when I look back on them, they are my own doing and no one else's. But could you elaborate on how you feel you are being screwed over?

LOL, Luda, great, you obviously haven't worked much. Ever notied that a big chunk of your check is taken out for income tax?

In canada, if you make 100,000 a year, the government takes 55% of it. thats right, 55,000 dollars. In reality, you'll be making 45,000$. So yeah, you are getting payed peanuts for your work (or atleast a lot less than you should be clearing NET.).

"They" say your taxes go to pay for social services, well guess what, that is wrong.

"100% of what is collected is absorbed solely by interest on the Federal Debt ... all individual income tax revenues are gone before one nickel is spent on the services taxpayers expect from government"
-Ronald Regan's Grace Commission Report

This has all been discussed before, elightening you is not my goal here, click the links provided above by Sturod.

I WANT TO KNOW: how many of us are there. When the time comes, does any one plan on doing something about this? I am willing to. I have to, we all do.

Originally posted by OrwellFan
LOL, Luda, great, you obviously haven't worked much. Ever notied that a big chunk of your check is taken out for income tax?

In canada, if you make 100,000 a year, the government takes 55% of it. thats right, 55,000 dollars. In reality, you'll be making 45,000$. So yeah, you are getting payed peanuts for your work (or atleast a lot less than you should be clearing NET.)

Damn yall got some high taxes in Canada. In every job I've had Ive usually gotten about 35 percent taken out in tax. But Canada has socialized healthcare and other necessary services. Youd have to expect your tax rates to be higher.
There is no way that none of the taxpayer money doesnt go into social programs and the such. To me the thought it is just illogical from my stand point. If you can provide me some links or something from a reliable source. Something like this.

Taxes on Income

The earnings of both individuals and corporations are subject to income taxes. Most of the Federal Government's revenue comes from income taxes. The personal income tax produces about five times as much revenue as the corporate income tax.
Not all income tax taxed in the same way. For example, taxpayers owning stock in a corporation and then selling it at a gain or loss must report it on a special schedule. This item and any other gains or losses get calculated separately before they get added to other income. By comparison, the interest they earn on money in a regular savings account gets included with wages, salaries and other "ordinary" income. There are also many types of tax-exempt and tax-deferred savings plans available that impact on people's taxes.

Payroll taxes are an important source of revenue for the Federal Government. Employers are responsible for paying these taxes, which include social security insurance and unemployment compensation. Employees also pay into the social security program through money withheld from their paychecks. Some state governments also use payroll taxes to pay for the state's unemployment compensation programs.

Over the years, the amount paid in social security taxes has greatly increased. This is because there are fewer workers paying into the system for each retired person now receiving benefits. Today, some workers pay more social security tax than income tax.

www.ustreas.gov...
www.ustreas.gov...


[edit on 12/11/2005 by ludaChris]