Project Serpo: Postings by "Anonymous" -- Breaking news?

I used to read this thread page for page, you know, back when it was humanly possible to do so.

Has anyone considered the possibility that Bill Ryan has been interrogated and pressed by the government? Maybe he HAS to release what they tell him to release, and he reports to them for everything now.

Maybe. It's not far fetched at all, in fact it's standard.

Originally posted by Damocles
so, what is the general consensus?

serpo is a fake from page one?

serpo is in that 80/20 until post 12?

do we even have reason to think theres any real truth in any of it?

well - the consensus is - that the choosen once went on the ship that takes them to Serpo-land..
Do you have any idea how fast these serpo-ships fly man?

Load em up and they leave - like they leave a trail of light in tha skies.. You computer people know when you move a mouse real fast over the screen - it kinda leave a trail..
That's how fast it works now a days. So what is left is the people that didn't have time to pack the gear..And got on the serpo ship..

They had an argument in the hangar about how fast this serpo-ship..Could go... And in the end the most eager, and those with the best abilities left the crowd in a trail of light... We where stunned to wittness the event unfold right before our eyes..
Even myself tried to board the ship - but it was impossible - cause of the danger of being overrun by the choosen once.. You know how dangerous it is to fall in the mob..??
It's like people can actually die being crushed to death by feets..Shoes.. footprints all over the place..
And the ship only had one ladder...

We can just wait for the photo's they will send back to ATS one day - when they feel like it..Or when the glorious moment arrives..

I think seriously we can only look at the nice and stylish drawings we have gotten so far and say: "how do they fit into the story"

WE ALL KNOW THIS COULD BE A HOAX.

But do as you would do with other stuff of communication... Just lend your eyes...read the pages and drink you beers..Coffe and water and soda.

Don't go tell noone it's true until you know for sure...
Know in you mind that no one knows...And just read and watch...

There is a war going on in our minds these years... Everyone want to do theire best of abilities..Even i have tried puke my ideas all over the place..
The thing is - it dosn't matter these days... though it seems it matters to all...and everyone has a word to include into the confusing mob - wich we are all part of.
It's like the internet is in a time of total overflow of minds..A total caos... Is breaking lose cause all the tubes are being connected... By wire and satellite..

You know - The monk bought lunch...

Keep it simpel... Still - photos are most important in this story - all other information is just fill stuff - like filling a warehouse with coffebeans... Wich eventually will end up in a coffe machine...

you see? - anyone -
(good question Damocles)

whoa, ruff, I never made any accusations. I'm just a uninformed "spook" who haunts this place...right? *snicker*

read shawna and the gangs review if you have any questions..that'll answer practically everything.

bill, should check the new headers even if theirs a confidentiality factor...because, we need to know..and not be strung along...but, its not going to happen.

The Need For Communication

Originally posted by Unplugged
As far as I can tell, all of the "facts" that pointed to Bill being guilty of something were misunderstandings/ miscomunication.

This is my working theory for now. Though my suspicions are aroused, I think it's possible to find an innocent explanation for all the discrepancies.

However, it is up to Bill to provide them, not for us to assume them.

There are reasonable questions about the way information has been vetted, handled and transmitted, and the nature of what has been represented to us over the course of the Serpo disclosure.

Only Bill can answer these questions, and without those answers, what is already a suspicious source becomes worthless.

Keeping Agreements

Originally posted by Unplugged
To say that Bill is a bad guy in all this for upholding his agreement with Anon to not reveal his identity is silly.

As far as I know, no one is asking Bill to reveal the identity of his sources.

Rather, ATSers are asking him to clarify statements he has made about how he has vetted them and verified their consistency over time, which is a crucial and central issue in the quest for understanding several glaring inconsistencies in the information that has been provided.

The Case For Openness

Originally posted by Bill Ryan
The thread should not be closed.

It would violate the principles which ATS stands for.

It would create a huge rumor elsewhere on the internet that would do ATS no credit.

There would be a danger that it might be thought elsewhere that the ATS moderators were not impartial and have their own agenda.

If anyone wants the thread to be closed or is no longer interested in the material or the discussion, then they don't have to visit it.

Bill argued for keeping the thread open for the reasons cited above.

I agreed with Bill that it should be kept open, and in light of how many people have been following it, and how important this exposure is to Bill's stated goal of getting the information about Serpo out, I see only more reason now why this thread should not only remain open, but continue with Bill's participation.

Bill has had some problems with a minority of ATS staff members regarding some specific issues. Some harsh words have been traded. However, I am hopeful that all involved are mature enough to get over that and keep an eye on the big picture.

Through ATS, Bill has the ability to spread the word about Serpo and expose it to the kind of scrutiny that no honest person can deny is thorough – even brutal.

But truth can stand up to such scrutiny.

Handling The Truth

If what Bill brings is truth, then let it be presented and his character exonerated. If what Bill brings is truth, then to withhold it for reasons of minor personal indignity is to place one's vanity above it.

Here's hoping that Bill will see fit to continue to aid us in our search for the facts behind Serpo.

Let the truth be told, whatever it may be!

i keep up with the Serpo website and this topic as enertainment at best.

i think its interesting the info about serpo is giving to us at a snails pace.
they put out a drawing , that is meaningless .

i think there is some truth to the exchange program , wether it be serpo or what ever name it goes by.

But i also think that the whats happeing here is a hoax .

so i wont post anything on this topic anymore untill i see/read something that has some truth to it .

if this story is true , its absurd to release the info at this rate and post a picture of a drawing that means absoloutly nothing .
you people are just being strung along .

Texta picture of a drawing that means absoloutly nothing .

has anyone wondered why the numbers don't match up?

look at the picture again...1 and 3 on one side

and 1 and 2 on the other side

[edit on 6-2-2006 by RUFFREADY]

Guys, YOU WANT THE TRUTH? HOW? I ain't American, but I can shove in my two bits....

So the first thing you do is to get a copy of your Constitution.

The second thing you do is you learn it!

The third thing you do is you start calling your senators and your repre-
sentatives, and the President of the United States and you start
leaning on them, and you tell them, "Unless you straighten up
the government, and unless we start getting the truth, and I
mean the whole truth, and no more of this baloney, this's the
last job you're ever gonna have, period. And I'll do everything
in my power to make sure that comes true."

And then write to them, frequently, saying the same thing. And then when they're in your area, in their area offices, take a little delegation and go see
them, and make them understand that they're gonna be living in
poverty because they're not gonna have a job any more come elec-
tion day.

You see, the secret government may own the executive branch, but you people, all of you guys, own the Congress, and the Congress makes the laws, and the Congress can impeach the entire executive branch!

You also have the right to petition the government for a redress of injuries. So you ARE powerful, you've just forgotten that you're powerful, you've forgotten that vote that you haven't been doing every time election comes
around, that vote has abdicated your power. That vote you did
not cast abdicated your power and gave it to those who are subverting the Constitution and are ruining your country."

So wake up You guys and start movin', instead of wasting time with all this Blah Blah on the net which will get you guys nowhere near the TRUTH.


[edit on 6-2-2006 by mikesingh]

Originally posted by mikesingh

So wake up You guys and start movin', instead of wasting time with all this Blah Blah on the net which will get you guys nowhere near the TRUTH.

Good post. But... The "Truth" about Aliens and UFOs (meaning the real evidence) is controlled by the the "shadow" government or whatever you chose to call it. In its early years (way back) it was name the Military Inductrial Complex, then as the years passed, it began to drift farther and farther from the direct authority of the President. Nowadays, Presidents dont even have clearance to enter some of America's most secret facilities/areas. Just in case you did not know... I may have gotten one thing wrong in there, but dont blame me, blame my crappy memory.

[edit on 6-2-2006 by Unplugged]

Posted by longhaircowboy

How bout we discuss why in December of 05 www.virtuallystrange.net... Serpo and Victors list are summarily dropped and ignored by the real UFO community.
No one has ever adequately addressed this issue.

I addressed this issue in my first post on this thread.

www.abovetopsecret.com... - Dec. 11.05

Basically I said the UFO community likely isn't paying attention. Unless real documents can be produced.

Indeed on the VS list my hunch is affirmed here.

www.virtuallystrange.net... -Dec. 22.05


Edit: to fix link.



[edit on 6-2-2006 by lost_shaman]

Originally posted by RUFFREADY

Texta picture of a drawing that means absoloutly nothing .

has anyone wondered why the numbers don't match up?

look at the picture again...1 and 3 on one side

and 1 and 2 on the other side

[edit on 6-2-2006 by RUFFREADY]

by all means, inform us, I'd love to hear it. other than traced..banky edwards even.

Why on earth would Anon supply a diagram with no explanation at all??

It amazes me he would do this?? what the hell is it?? if Anon is going to send diagrams then they should come with a explanation - PERIOD.

This does not bode well for this release......

Guys, its simple!
It is nothing but a diagram of a low tech community toilet (Notice the WCs etc) we designed for the Ebens. Remember their toilet habits described in one of Anon's posts? So this 'blue print' probably is in the commanders diary. And reproduced here. How many were built on Serpo? Your guess is as good as mine!
So don't flush it down the toilet just yet.
But where I'm concerned, this is nothing but crap!!!!

[edit on 6-2-2006 by mikesingh]

Originally posted by Alpha Grey
Why on earth would Anon supply a diagram with no explanation at all??

this was given so the thread would stay alive as people tossed around their ideas as to what the drawing was, further steering the focus away from topics such as THE MAGIC CREW MEMBER MATH and THE IP ISSUES and THE C2C INTERVIEW OOPS.

Subterfuge.
smoke and mirrors.
sleight of hand

Correct.

I also think it was done to kill the "Serpo Affair". It's a "jumping the sharks" moment much like the Titor bending laser photo. It will discredit the story for fence-sitters, but will keep speculation running amongst unsophisticated believers for a long time.

Also, as pointed out, there are several unanswered burning issues that has caused Bill's decision to avoid this site because of being pressed on serious credibility questions.

Sad.

No wonder Bill Ryan can't respond anymore. He's too busy recruiting for Scientology...

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:14 pm

TECH outside COS: Another Account or Ron's Org
UK inaugural meeting.

This last week was the first meeting called to establish a Rons Org for the UK. It was held near Gatwick and was well attended. Around 30 to 40 people packed into the meeting room for an all day session.

Bill Ryan chaired the proceedings and things got underway with attendees introducing themselves. They had come from near and far, some travelling more than 400 miles overnight to be there.

Otfried Krumholtz the Senior C/S from Frankfurt Org then spoke about Scientology and covered the history and development into the early 1980s and how Rons Orgs came to be. Surprising details of technical alterations in the CofS were bought to light. Much discussion ensued on the points raised.

Operation Clambake Message Board

Is there anyone that agrees that this diagram is a wall mounted fixture.You can see one here.

www.nrha.org...

I agree that the diagram was likely based on something simialar to a wall mount template of some kind, but other shapes were added as an attempt to make it look different. Either way it is a poor hoax attempt.
Sad, so sad.
Regards,
J-DefunCtion

Originally posted by MagicaRose
It's not there anymore so how do I get to the last page without going thru all 224 pages?

Where the pages are listed at the top:

>

Click on the double right arrow.

I'm not buying the mounting plate, but that's ok. The third hole would just be round, not 'toilet-shaped' and it's much too complex for any mouting plate I've ever seen.

so, anyone notice the coincidences within the last 2 posts by anon? I sure, did.as some would put it, the "casual" skeptic I noticed this. Everyone debated the crew members...then anon posted the crew memember list, then when everyone got over that..they started talking about the pictures..then the diagram shows up...but, its all coincidence you know.

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