Project Serpo: Postings by "Anonymous" -- Breaking news?

Call me crazy, this is some interesting reading. But has anyone else found similiarities between Serpo, and John Titor's story?They do have the same kind of feel to them... AM I the only one? If this turns out to be the real deal, at least they sound or sounded rather peaceable..

Originally posted by mikesingh

Guys, This thread is a mile long and we're no nearer the 'truth'. We can keep delving into conjectures, arguments, guesses surmises, inferences, speculation, rumor, gossip, assumptions, suppositions and so on.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT UNLESS PROJECT SERPO IS OFFICALLY DISCLOSED BY THE GOVERNMENT, WE'LL NEVER KNOW FOR CERTAIN. PERIOD.

I strongly disagree! Some are getting closer to the truth!

Originally posted by Shawnna
I do not know if the "outside threat from beyond" will be real, or promulgated, but it doesn't really matter. The bottom line is this is about CONTROL by the PTB - in either scenario.

For those with an open, critically thinking mind, I'd bet we're closer to the truth than we know!

Originally posted by Truthforall
It appears there is no need for war paint for we can kill our own kind just as fast. If the story is true, they can do wonders in advancement for humanity. How about it Bill or should I say Ce.......

This is with a curious, friendly, smile on my face:
Based on the info provided by a(cough cough cough) trusted anon USG official(6 officials) what "facts" of this story lead you to believe that they will do wonders for humanity? If anything the facts show they can and will kill us faster than we can kill ourselves!

On a serious note: What type of creature hunter or prey has a better chance of becoming intelligent and high tech enough to become interstellar?

Chances are aliens view us and our planet as resources to be consumed in one form or another! You really think they make their shining silver saucers by holding hands and thinking sweet thoughts of socialism and love???? Carefull or we're all 308'ed!

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I am definately with you on the consuming part of your statement. ANy of you catch the new "War Of The World's"? All we were was a food source, and fertilizer to them.

robertfenix i just read your post on the third page of this thread feel very proud of youself.

Originally posted by Shawnna
I do not know if the "outside threat from beyond" will be real, or promulgated, but it doesn't really matter. The bottom line is this is about CONTROL by the PTB - in either scenario.

CasualOne
On a serious note: What type of creature hunter or prey has a better chance of becoming intelligent and high tech enough to become interstellar!

Chances are aliens view us and our planet as resources to be consumed in one form or another! You really think they make their shining silver saucers by holding hands and thinking sweet thoughts of socialism and love???? Carefull or we're all 308'ed!

If CasualOne's intent is to get individuals thinking about POSSIBLE SCENARIOS, perhaps it would have been more appropriate to say "Chances are aliens, whether real or promulagated,....would view....."

But CasualOne did not include those italic words noted above because CasualOne's intent appears to be to instill FEAR - rather than adding to the intelligent discussion. Read CasualOne's post carefully and think about it. For what other purpose is CasualOne posting this kind of speculation?

And when enough FEAR is generated, the amount of CONTROL the PTB have will be extraordinary.

Originally posted by Shawnna

But CasualOne did not include those italic words noted above because CasualOne's intent appears to be to instill FEAR - rather than adding to the intelligent discussion. Read CasualOne's post carefully and think about it. For what other purpose is CasualOne posting this kind of speculation?

And when enough FEAR is generated, the amount of CONTROL the PTB have will be extraordinary.

Shawnna,

You give me more credit than I deserve! If only I ruled the world! The fear I would install

My point is this: Those who want to believe this farce will look at the "evidence" through Grey glasses, and becareful what you wish for be it real or promulagated! I was pointing out that you can take the same "facts" and see a different picture. These beasties, if you believe this, "did" fight a war with another sentient race and the KILLED every last male, female, trans gendered, ungendered, egg, larvae, clone whatever.

So, if you look at my, maybe 6 posts, you will see what I believe. Sleep well because I am!

All my best,
John

P.S. What I blew it! You where my straightman? Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! my wife is right I am so Dumb!

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Well, let me re-affirm that what Chapman wrote about the Old Serpo Story is true. There was such a story. I don't really know how old some of the posters are here, but let me put it this way, back then in the '70's some of us lived knowing about Dr. J. Allen Hynek, and read all of this type of stuff before. Yes, he did make a cameo appearance in the movie -- Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Yes, there were real scientists in the room where the hand gestures are shown on the tape.

And to me, if Congresspeople ever considered anything back then at Congressional Meetings, and everyone should know how tough those can be, that first, the only way to convince anyone to do anything about such a story is to convince those people.

So, I am older, yes, and let me state here that the Old Serpo Story from Chapman and what it was is true. So, if this is disclosure now, then, the same type of debate went on before, even in Congress.

I just want to make that clear!

The story still continues to lead me to the same conclusions -- about the rest that came up after that post appeared. (weapons in space)

I think and this is only my opinion that back then, and personally I was not that involved with any of it, or anything else, except reading books on the subject, that it must have been concluded by most people back then, that if something like that was going to occur, then there is little this Planet could do to stave off an attack of such a magnitude. It is still my opinion that if Congress even thought that it may be real, that they would fund the money, and perhaps, even bring the world in on it, although all the bickering and debate about it would be a task.

As always with the entire subject about UFO's, there is only the reports and the stories about it.

Digging deeper as other may have tried before in the Past, may not yield any more results than what has been discussed before on the subject.

Any current discussion is newer of course, but there was that Old Serpo Story back then.

Thank you for your time!

I think Bill Ryan, is just trying to get some more Light spread on this Subject.

Safety in Numbers of Course, until someone other than me, dismisses it, or thinks that it should not be a concern, that they are aware of these stories also about UFOs, and those people may not respond to pressure about it concluding that the best defense is actually people all learning more and not worrying whether they know about it or not, or if they think that there is a cover-up or not, or disclosure or non-disclosure.

I guess some people think that they should have more voice in the Government, but then that is a debate also.

So far, I am not being negative about any of it, it is just that the basis given with the data does not fit. Also it seems that scientists think the same way about it, as of now.

- Welcome to Zion. Something is different this time.
- Information. A spoonful weighs a ton. Disinformation gives much more information than merely a wide distortion of what really happened.
- If you know, you win. Free-will is a muscle. Armageddon is ongoing. Apocalypses are personal.
- Choose. That's the "meaning of life". Take as long as you want.
- 11.1.5. Serpo. A signal. The final act.
- Burn the Land. Boil the Sea. You can't take the Sky from me.

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I have no idea why I go off on insane ramblings like that. Must need to reinitialize the societal programming sub-routine. My new prescription of Sybilax isn't working either.

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The subtle humour in hoaxes or more? Take Planet X...

1. ZetaTalk: On May 15, 2003 "Planet X" was supposed to pass between the Earth and Sun causing a "Pole Shift".
2. Multiple references to a "Planet X" or 10th Planet of the Solar System (many Science Pubs)
3.

Two of Diamonds: May 15, 2003
Commanders for the 1st Brigade had been planning the raid, dubbed "Operation Planet X," for a week after receiving a tip the men were living in the area.

Why name your operation, to catch the two of diamonds, after some bizzare "hoax"? The Chief Operation Namer just thought it would be funny? Don't get me wrong, it was funny. But this is a military operation.

Last point on PX. We can't prove it true or false. We know one thing. There was no PX at the time specified (except the military operation). That's all we know.

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Aussie Broke: March 8, 2003

Could've been some heavy HAARP background noise or just the 3d red/blue/black site design but this one is fuzzy. The site strings you along for months with snippets of things "posted from internet cafes on the run from authorities". The guy on the run found a camera while hiking. The camera was broke and the film was still inside. Blah blah blah...filler filler filler. The film was taken from an airplane that was shotdown. The airplane seen a runway (rails) of sorts going into and around some mountains. A ship of some sort with some writing that I think said ARK was inside one of the cave entrances.

www.wakemanpublishing.com...

We can't prove nor disprove Aussie Broke. We know one thing. The "guy" ends up selling a book called "The Shift of the Ages".

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Profit Yahweh:

Same MO. A lot of hype. Even some video "proof". But it ends up the same. A date is set and it fizzles. We can't actually prove they were silver remote control balloons. Only thing we know is that the 'big one' did not hover over Las Vegas for a day.

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Serpo:

Leads us back to Serpo. Another in a string of "what were you thinking" hoaxes? A Doty Affair? Will there be a book? Will the aliens leave us alone long enough to write it? How many alien races does it really take to control humanity and do they understand what the middle finger means?

So, someone made a hoax. They knew that a good hoax has good background. So to make it more realistic the hoaxer makes an interesting premise surrounded by obvious inconsistencies. Keeping the basics of the MO of other unprovable hoaxes. Nice try, I guess.

Maybe its another drawn-out disinfo campaign.

Maybe it's just a figment of our collective imagination. None of you are real. Stop typing on my screen!

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Here I sit laughing my ass on on the brink of an ELE. Typical humans. Why do we enjoy the ride so much? Why do we keep coming back? To put right what once went wrong, hoping our next leap will be our leap home? Is my insanity plausably deniable?

Why the reaction to Serpo? Why "Most Replied" thread? No pictures. No evidence. I ask in all seriousness. At lease Yahweh had video. Aussie had pictures. But nothing here. Look at the reactions to what amounts to "nothing". Very weird indeed.

hey, guys its been awhile since I contributed to something useful. but, I'm going to to be straight up with what I have to share.

I was taking a dump earlier today and I read last months "reader's digest" and in it was a mechanical calculator that has been in circulation since 1930...and massely produced in the 1950's-60's and it struck me!!!

human ingenuity isn't based merely on digital technology...and a by-product of that is seen in mechanical engineering. for those who are unfamiliar with what I'm talking about..this goes back to the late 1900's when the steam engine was replaced with the gas engine for mere revenue and not longitvity. for better contrapception of my views on this..please watch the anime "steamboy". but besides that here's a link from the all knowing wikipedia that shows a calculator that was widely used at the time...and very well could be used on the serpo project, due to it fame at the same time the project supposedly is endeavored.

en.wikipedia.org...



I think this might be a revalation on the calculator front...but, be my guest and make a choice on your own.

(Disclaimer: I dont claim to be a genius. So please do not-- *ducks a punch* -- attack me?)

I just need to state a few things that are clear to me (and I assume others). I wont state 'why' for everything. If you have been following this thread, you would know as to 'why' I say this.

(A) Bill Ryan comes off as a trustworthy and honest person.
--Everything he has done and shown us points to this being true. (This isnt enough for some people, apparently)

(B) Bill has come upon plenty of corroborative accounts that at least support the core of the story (Alien Exchange).

(C) If we accept A, then there should be no question as to the validity of B.

This I think leaves two possibilities:

[1] All of Bill Ryan's contacts have collaborated in a grand scheme to funnel fictitious tidbits of the Serpo "BS" to him (Massive disinfo job).

[2] Bill Ryan has masterfully pulled a large and thick piece of wool over our collective eyes (By faking all of the accounts, e-mails, etc).

[3] There is TRUTH to the core story about an Exchange Program with Aliens (because of all the accounts).

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Im off to bed... I hope this makes sense to me tomorow at least.
I know I probably left out something, but I lean to 3. for now. I hope the sarcasm wasnt too strong for the first 2 options, hell some people probably opt for those anyway lol.
Also, no touching of the hair or face! ...*ducks for cover*




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"old" serpo

I've been rummaging around the net because some of this serpo stuff is giving me deja vous. found this on msn board. just a post by a member but even so it makes for a good read. From: RogerWilco Sent: 12/20/2005 7:38 AM
The Project Serpo is an old story, one that has been in circulation at least since the early 70's.

Although I haven't seen the serpo website from what I remember of the original story is Serpo, a small planet in the Zeta Reticuli star system, is a trade outpost with about 650,000 extraterrestrial beings; the Grays, of Barney and Betty Hill fame, living there. As the story goes, shortly after the Hill encounter, somewhere between 1962 and 1965 the U.S. government was contacted by the Grays. In an effort to begin trade with Earth, these beings, offered to exchange twelve of their people for twelve of ours. The offer accepted, twelve humans, all special forces members (one story had them with doctorates), traveled to the alien's planetary outpost to study and learn with their stay lasting about 10 years. Soon after this, a sort of coup occurred, within the government caused by a strong mistrust between the project personnel and certain government officials, thereafter control of the project's handling and dissemination of information was held by certain members of the military/industrial complex.

Because of the project's change in leadership, the aliens on Earth were incarcerated; some even say they were tortured, while the humans on Serpo were sacrificed for the greater good. Due to lost contact with their emissaries on Earth, the Gray's on Serpo decided to send a fact-finding mission. Loading up eight of the humans on Serpo, in case they needed them for enhanced communication, the Gray's returned to find that the original agreement was no longer in effect. The new leaders of the project issued unreasonable demands that the aliens rejected. Releasing the eight humans they had, they returned to Serpo leaving two, perhaps three crewed ships on the moon to continue observation of the humans and to mount a rescue mission on the still living Gray's in captivity. The eight returned humans were quickly rounded up by the project and "debriefed". According to some accounts, only one returned human survived the debriefing.

The story gets hazy and inconsistent after this point, with even more outlandish claims, making it next to impossible to compare and verify any point of the first part of the story with the latter parts of the story.

How does the version I heard 30+ years ago compare to what is on the website?

RW
Did you know that some people in government and the military refer to the star system ZetaReticuli as Zetare?


hmmmmmmm?

Originally posted by exsmokingman
"old" serpo

I've been rummaging around the net because some of this serpo stuff is giving me deja vous. found this on msn board. just a post by a member but even so it makes for a good read. From: RogerWilco Sent: 12/20/2005 7:38 AM
The Project Serpo is an old story, one that has been in circulation at least since the early 70's.

Someone already posted this version of the Serpo story not too long ago. If my memory serves me, this version of the story is the one that [insert UFO field person] recalled when he first heard of it in the early 90's/ late 80's.
I obviously cant remember the guy's name, but it was a person whos name has been thrown around here plenty of times before.

I like to call this version of the Serpo story the "David-Ike-meets-Dulce-rectal-disinfo-probe-Serpo story".

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Originally posted by Unplugged

Originally posted by exsmokingman
"old" serpo

I've been rummaging around the net because some of this serpo stuff is giving me deja vous. found this on msn board. just a post by a member but even so it makes for a good read. From: RogerWilco Sent: 12/20/2005 7:38 AM
The Project Serpo is an old story, one that has been in circulation at least since the early 70's.

Someone already posted this version of the Serpo story not too long ago. If my memory serves me, this version of the story is the one that [insert UFO field person] recalled when he first heard of it in the early 90's/ late 80's.
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Could it be Mike Ferrell and the " UFO COVERUP LIVE "

from link above
Moore had "sensitive" videotape of Falcon and Condor's testimony, which painted a picture of reality very much like what Bob Lazar claimed. Falcon and Condor vouched for the fact that the government had secret dealings with ETs for decades, and that a living alien (EBE-1) communicated much information about interstellar travel and humankind's history. Our "secret history," according to EBE-1, included the fact that we are a species created by aliens via genetic manipulation of primitive hominids. It also included the notion that thousands of years ago, aliens "staged" religion as we know it, including the Biblical miracles, to manage and direct the development of our species. EBE-1, similar to what we think of as a Grey alien, was said to have come from a star system known as Zeta-Reticula, a double star on a "trade route" with Earth.

Hello

It seems i'm almost the only one to find that the close link between the Lonnie Zamora ufo sighting and the Serpo landing is of very high importance. (see my post on page 196).

I, like many others, have been watching this thread avidly. Now I'm not here to add anything constructive, and I'm not here to belittle the subject at hand, but the references to "Close Encounters" and the Disney "Disclosure Film" reminded me of another movie reference.
As any Sci-Fi nerd will tell you, in the "Alien" movie series, the original contact world LV426 or "Acheron" was a planet orbiting Zeta 2 Reticuli!

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Originally posted by Majic

3. Which of the sources you listed do you consider credible, and why?

Hi, Majic -

This is a good question. I can only speak of the sources of which I have personal experience.

I am as certain as I can be that this account is credible. For those for who are unfamiliar with it, I state it here in full (verbatim from the website, which was verbatim from my source's correspondence):

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2 December
[This information, reported verbatim below, was supplied to Bill Ryan personally by an active duty Air Force Lieutenant Colonel assigned to the Pentagon. I (BR) have been in correspondence with him on a number of topics and have found him to be measured, intelligent, thorough, reliable and honest, as well as being a most pleasant and decent man. He wishes his name to be withheld but would like this new information to be made known.

The correspondent's friend, referred to below, is a retired Air Force Colonel, who worked in Air Force Intelligence for 33 years (a later correction of the estimated figure of 30 years as originally stated).]

Yesterday, I visited an old retired USAF Colonel. This Colonel had served 30 years in USAF Intelligence. I don't know his exact time frame but it was sometime around 1955 to 1985. I have been friends with this Colonel for about five years. His son, who is also my friend, serves in my unit. Because of his extensive intelligence time, I wanted to run all this past him to see if he might know something about the information being released by Victor. The Colonel doesn't have email so I printed all the information from Anonymous and provided him a copy. I watched him read the most current email, one with all the postings. I watched his eyes and facial expressions. After he was finished, he stated, "Oh my God, who on this Earth would release such classified material"? I then asked him if all this information was real. His simple answer was, "yes, all real". I then asked the Colonel if he had been involved with this project. He said, yes, he was involved in the communications aspect of this operation from about 1961 until 1965. He was also on the debriefing team. He wouldn't provide too much information, saying that unless he saw that all information was declassified, he could not comment on details. I thanked him and left.

I was startled, to say the least. Wow, this is actually true. I always thought some of it was true but I had some doubts about details that have been released.

We may just be on the Verge of a major release of information about the most important part of our History.

Originally posted by torbjon
I don’t get it…

[...]

After a while they decide to shave off all their hair and go native. They throw away any working timepieces they have left and start singing China Cat Sunflower in the town square.

Great.

Cool.

Far Out.

Only now 420 ain’t feelin’ so good…. he Thought the local herb would burn well, but something is wrong… he’s having a bad trip.

excellent post torb!

it all makes sense to me now! the sublim messages are starting to burn through!

420 - "take me to your dealer".

Originally posted by enhancedesign

From Home Page of Serpo.org
Logically there are four possibilities:

1) Anonymous is a prankster and the reported data is either all invented or culled from other sources and added to a wild novelistic story.

2) Anonymous is operating to a planned agenda and the information is deliberately distorted, but contains a core of extraordinary truth.

3) Anonymous is doing his best to report data from an indirect source (personal notes, his own short or long term memory, or another person), but accidental errors, omissions and additions have occurred.

4) Anonymous is reporting everything faithfully and accurately as best as he can present it.

Only possibility (1) means everything should be rejected. The other three necessarily mean that the reports deserve close attention

Shawnna, I'll let Bill speak for himself, but I think it's quite clear from the above that Bill gives the best 4 possibilities as to the Serpo Story. Everything I've heard Bill say is that he's not convinced that Serpo is fact, though he leans towards possibility #2 (80% true 20% disinfo). I believe Bill has stated that everyone should come to their own conclusions but he encourages everyone to keep an *open* mind to the possibilities.

Thanks, enhancedesign -

This is my point exactly, but you said it for me perfectly. My intention on the website from the very start was to explain as clearly as possible that I wanted to bring this information to tbe public domain because it was of potential importance. I don't think I'm urging anyone to believe it. But I am urging people to consider it carefully and intelligently.

Regarding the absence of evidence, there's nothing I can do about that... production of evidence is not in my gift (any more than is the production of photographs).

I gently suggest here that posts requesting (or insisting on) evidence are not helpful to this thread, any more than are posts requesting the photos. All of us, myself included, would like to see the photos (or hear a statement from the President, or see a disk in a hangar on a 60 Minutes Special).

But we may not get any of these tomorrow. As I stated in my interview and in another recent post, we may need to be prepared for evidence NOT to be produced as we might wish, for the reasons I suggested. I'd like to be wrong about that! But I'm trying to be as intellectually honest as possible. Right now, that is what I'm thinking. Later it might change again. My views aren't fixed, and neither should they be.

Best, Bill

Originally posted by Shawnna
1. WHO is Anonymous
2. WHY are we being fed this story, at this particular point, in our humanity's history?

Those are the two answers that I am trying to ascertain. I do believe that Bill, has the information that could get us to answer #1, and with that, I believe we could ascertain the answer to #2.

Given this, it is extremely important to ask yourself why Bill wouldn't want us to have the answers to these two questions? Perhaps it is because his underlying philosophical bias is directing his actions? I do believe this is the case with Bill Ryan, AND I do believe he was chosen by Anon BECAUSE of his underlying philosophical bias and mental training that makes him a very nice candidate for this particular mission.

Hi, Shawnna -

Many thanks. I believe I was "chosen" because I am considered to be reliable. That means that I will post exactly what I am asked to, without falling in the trap of believing I know better, and editing or censoring the material. This is not egotism - the evidence (Victor's summary dismissal with no word of appreciation, apology or explanation) suggests that.

Again, I support Victor's integrity totally, and I know he has agonized over this and always did what he thought was best (and was given reason by Anon to believe he was doing a great job).

The latter also suggests that both he and I are pawns in the game. Victor was sacrificed. I am still on the board. I suggest this for serious consideration.

But you're right. If I knew who Anon was (and I don't), I would not release the information.

If it is not understood why I hold this view, please go back and read my recent posts to see that if the goal is disclosure, then I will do nothing that might interfere with that by trying to be a clever little detective. I think this goes back to the reliability issue above. Until I have proven to my own satisfaction that this is a 100% scam (and I don't believe it is at all), I'll continue to do this "job" in the belief and hope that it is genuinely beneficial to humanity... in the end.

It's a high risk game. I might end up being laughed at for decades. As I said earlier, does anyone fancy taking on this role?

Disclosure is the objective... not playing amateur spook and trying to figure out who Anon is. That may well kill the goose... and then we get no golden egg.

Best, Bill

musclor

Apologies for everyone else who seem to miss bits of information that are allready documented a long time ago that seems to tie in with serpo.

I remember watching a ufo video about 10 years ago, even longer than that, it mentioned a meeting between the usg and an ebe. Landed in a desert somewhere as the story went.

Basically what i am saying is that the truth is in the story somewhere. You just have to look for it. Lay all the facts on the table and then link them in to other well know stories - Gary Mckinnon, zomora etc, you will see that certain things tie in.

I applied to the dia for documents on ufos, i received a whole bundle. Lots of articles by high ranking officers, also reports on objects being found. But i dont know if what i got was the same as everyone else got, or did they send me 1 document that no-one else in the world has seen yet? Who knows?? The truth is we will never find the truth out for ourselves as we are all waiting for George Bush to address the world and admit all they know.

This is never going to happen as you all know, for one he wouldnt have a clue himself anyhow.

In your interview for Fortean times Bill, you hit the nail on the head by saying that none of the Ufo researchers work together as a group. Nothing will be achieved if we dont work together as a group.

What do you think will happen if anon goes public.....i was a general in the us army...blah blah blah. Its allready happened in Disclosure. We have high ranking officers going on oath to say what theyve seen etc. What has happened with that?

Ask yourselves what full disclosure means to YOU personally?
For me its real, they are real, theyve been here for a long time. Same goes for Bill, disclosure has allready happened for him.

For your average Joe bloggs on the street, they dont care if there is aliens or not - unless it stops them from going on holiday, shopping or whatever meaningless things they get up to.... they aint bothered.

SO again if we receive pictures that are proved to be real, we find out who anon is - what are we going to do about it? What will happen? What can feasibly happen?