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Miami Police Take New Tack Against Terror; Vow 'Surprise' ID Sweeps

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posted on Nov, 29 2005 @ 07:42 PM
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again with the fuzzy math?

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posted on Nov, 30 2005 @ 12:20 AM
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Originally posted by Crakeur
again with the fuzzy math?

ou812

c.d.b.

55318008 upside down is boobless

isn't that a pirates dream a sunken chest

Hey Crakeur you really won't know what to make of this.
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My Birthday is April 17 1963
convert 41763 to base 17 an remember my poor post that someone put to the Skunk Works



posted on Nov, 30 2005 @ 08:03 AM
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"People are definitely going to notice it," Fernandez said. "We want that shock. We want that awe.




Yeah right.

Bushkrieg: Shock and Awe in America



Good find loam.


Excuse me while I go



posted on Nov, 30 2005 @ 08:08 AM
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Originally posted by soficrow



"People are definitely going to notice it," Fernandez said. "We want that shock. We want that awe.




Yeah right.

Bushkrieg: Shock and Awe in America



Good find loam.


Excuse me while I go


Please note this day. 43 will be the last prez the US will ever have. After the big quake next month and the terror attacks all the US will be under marshall law. 43 knows his destiny to be the anti-christ.



posted on Nov, 30 2005 @ 08:14 AM
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Originally posted by LA_Maximus
So, instead of racially profiling Muslim Males between 15-50 like they should....now everyone gets jacked up? God Forbid we sterio-type the ones that are trying to cut our throats!

This is stupidity in its purest form and it fits right in with our wimpy PC society.

Its like my poor old caucasion Grandma being searched at LAX airport last week....instead of yanking out the Muslim males and females and jacking them up, security goes after the little old ladies, old men, Italian Nana's and little caucasion kids.

Pathetic

Maximu§




This is the only good thing I have seen come out of this whole debacle. Now, white people know what it's like to be profiled.


You wanna cry about your poor old grandma, Maximus? Try being racially profiled your whole g-ddamn life. Doesn't feel good to be harassed just because you look "suspect," does it?

I'm glad this is coming back on white people, cuz now y'all can see how it feels to be harassed for crap that somebody else does, because "you all look alike."



posted on Nov, 30 2005 @ 08:59 AM
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You have a point - BUT - this is way bigger than racial profiling. It's class profiling. And it's setting us up to accept new quarantine rules and travel restrictions.


The CDC recently proposed new quarantine rules to deal with epidemics in the USA. Several stipulations stand out:


ATS: CDC's Proposed Quarantine Rules

1. People can be quarantined on suspicion of illness, without a confirmed diagnosis.
2. Quarantine does not include treatment.
3. Quarantined people are not allowed to travel or leave their assigned area.
4. No promises, commitments or guarantees are made to ensure adequate food supplies are delivered to quarantined areas or people.




Get the pitcha?

Also see: Bus commuter vs. Big Brother. Papers, please!



posted on Nov, 30 2005 @ 02:16 PM
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Well, well ain't this just a kick in the sack. So Zaphod still having trouble seeing the "slippery slope" i was talking about now?



posted on Nov, 30 2005 @ 03:06 PM
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Originally posted by truthseeka


This is the only good thing I have seen come out of this whole debacle. Now, white people know what it's like to be profiled.


I'm glad this is coming back on white people, cuz now y'all can see how it feels to be harassed for crap that somebody else does, because "you all look alike."





i'm white, and i agree.


there really IS something good that comes out of pure evil.

i was just chatting with a friend, yesterday, and we expressing our dismay at the black people whom are 'allowed' to disseminate media. it is rappers that are pushing a culture of 'rebellion against' which is actually 'alliance with' 'the man'.

i miss malcom x and martin luther, sydney poitier and richard prior.

it's all, 'slap up your bitch', 'more gold', 'pimpin'', 'pop a cap', etc.

on the upside, the biggest financial supporters of these ganstas, are middle class white people ghetto wannabees.

like, EVERYTHING is upside down. the (white)cia control the coke trade, and the oppressed are oppressing themselves, now, by allowing their 'media' face to be so criminally violent, which in turn, encourages racial profiling.

what would be better than everyone being treated like criminals, though(although it IS ironically funny) is for only actual criminals being treated like criminals.

[edit on 30-11-2005 by billybob]



posted on Nov, 30 2005 @ 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by soficrow
ATS: CDC's Proposed Quarantine Rules

1. People can be quarantined on suspicion of illness, without a confirmed diagnosis.
2. Quarantine does not include treatment.
3. Quarantined people are not allowed to travel or leave their assigned area.
4. No promises, commitments or guarantees are made to ensure adequate food supplies are delivered to quarantined areas or people.



these 'health care' workers sure take their job with a grain of salt.

"we will lock you up for, perhaps, no reason at all, and then we will starve you to death. no worries, it's for your own good."



posted on Nov, 30 2005 @ 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by truthseeka

You wanna cry about your poor old grandma, Maximus? Try being racially profiled your whole g-ddamn life. Doesn't feel good to be harassed just because you look "suspect," does it?

I'm glad this is coming back on white people, cuz now y'all can see how it feels to be harassed for crap that somebody else does, because "you all look alike."


Yeah?

Ive yet to see old white ladies flying jumbo-jets into highrise buildings crammed with people, but I do know for a FACT that most terrorist acts are committed by Muslim males.

So why not profile the people that are the highest risk?....why should everyone be treated like a terrorist? Instead Miami is spending all its resources on a "show-of-force"......thats stupidity in its purest form.

Check out Muslims or Muslim converts......specially the ones that converted to Islam in prison.


Maximu§





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posted on Nov, 30 2005 @ 03:23 PM
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This IS a wake up call.

ID checks lead to quarantine, and quarantine is a depopulation tool.


Oh yeah - The terror angle is just a convenient cover story to get everyone used to the police state. And quarantine travel restrictions.




ed to add last para

[edit on 30-11-2005 by soficrow]



posted on Dec, 2 2005 @ 11:35 AM
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Originally posted by LA_Maximus

Originally posted by truthseeka

You wanna cry about your poor old grandma, Maximus? Try being racially profiled your whole g-ddamn life. Doesn't feel good to be harassed just because you look "suspect," does it?

I'm glad this is coming back on white people, cuz now y'all can see how it feels to be harassed for crap that somebody else does, because "you all look alike."


Yeah?

Ive yet to see old white ladies flying jumbo-jets into highrise buildings crammed with people, but I do know for a FACT that most terrorist acts are committed by Muslim males.

So why not profile the people that are the highest risk?....why should everyone be treated like a terrorist? Instead Miami is spending all its resources on a "show-of-force"......thats stupidity in its purest form.

Check out Muslims or Muslim converts......specially the ones that converted to Islam in prison.


Maximu§
[edit on 033030p://333 by LA_Maximus]
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Whatever.


It was elite, mostly WHITE men who were behind the flying of the planes into buildings. But, since you say it's mostly Muslims, how come the Muslims that helped Tim McVeigh were never brought up in the trial? Oh, because these Muslims were govt agents.


See, the only time it's the Muslims is when it fits the plan of the elitist, mostly white men. See where I'm going with this?



posted on Dec, 2 2005 @ 11:59 AM
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Originally posted by truthseeka

It was elite, mostly WHITE men who were behind the flying of the planes into buildings.


Really? Take a look at all the 9/11 hijackers.

They all look Muslim to me....in fact most were Saudi's. Seems to me like your not gonna accept the truth until your on your knees braying to Mecca on a prayer matt.

Maximu§




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posted on Dec, 2 2005 @ 12:21 PM
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Originally posted by truthseeka
This is the only good thing I have seen come out of this whole debacle. Now, white people know what it's like to be profiled.


Um, if "White People" were calling for jihad, the killing of Americans, strapping bombs to themselves to blow up ordinary citizens etc... THEN I would be 110% for stopping WHITE PEOPLE. The problem here is that ARABS are doing these things. Capish!?!?


Originally posted by truthseekaI'm glad this is coming back on white people, cuz now y'all can see how it feels to be harassed for crap that somebody else does, because "you all look alike."


WOW!!! Someone sure is racist around here. Let's play a little game, shall we? A bank is robbed and someone is killed during the robbery. EVERY witness in the bank says that 2 hispanic men perpetrated the crime, they drove away in a white Honda Civic. Who should the police look for??? By your logic it would make perfect sense for the police to pull over little blue-haired ladies driving blue Oldsmobile Cutlasses, right? I mean, that way hispanics wouldn't have to offended, right???



posted on Dec, 2 2005 @ 12:47 PM
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here's a little story about racial profiling for y'all. please note that there are instances where I agree with it, instances where I don't.

that said, a few years back there was a rash of car jackings along an off-ramp leaving or entering (can't recall) Miami International Airport. murders, car thefts etc. it was out of control. Cops started to stop and question young african american men between the ages of 18 and 35 or whatever the range was. The african american community was up in arms over the racial profiling. 60 minutes did a story on it. Lots of local and national leaders in the african american community were interviewed. They all expressed their disgust in the concept of racial profiling.

fast forward a few years. September 11th came, some middle eastern fellas killed around 3,000 americans via the use of planes they hijacked. Airport security was beefed up and men who looked to be from the middle east were being forced to undergo heavier scrutiny than their more anglo looking counterparts. Reports of middle eastern men being asked to take another flight because "the passengers were frightened" made the news. Racial profiling all over again.

60 minutes ran a story on it. They also interviewed many of the same local and national black community leaders to guage their views on the profiling of middle eastern men between the ages of 18 and 35 (or whatever it was).

Nearly every black man interviewed said he totaly understood it now.

Does that make it right? No.
Does it make it more clear that these people are doing a job and following the only leads they have? It should

In NYC there was a terror threat that apparently involved men or women with strollers. The mayor and the chief of police asked that you not bring your stroller to the subways unless it was absolutely necessary.

If you got stopped and searched because you had a stroller, would that be wrong? no. is it profiling? absolutely.

(don't start in on the illegal searches nonsense as that is not the point here and even the aclu searches your bags before letting you enter their offices).


I'm sure there are many instances where the police take the profiling too far and take advantage of the situation and search for harrassment reasons or for some other reason but, for the most part, if the cops are on the lookout for a xxxx male aged xx to xx and you fit that category, you'll be under a closer watch.

one of the many prices we are forced to pay when a group of individuals commit an act that goes against the laws of the lwe live in. It's another form of punishment that they are enforcing upon us. Without it, they'd be able to commit more of these acts and break more laws and possibly kill more innocent people. Don't blame the authorities, blame the individuals that broke the law and forced the authorities into the act of racial profiling. Prior to the carjackings the black community wasn't complaining about harrassment.
Prior to 9/11, middle eastern men didn't complain about having issues at airports.



posted on Dec, 5 2005 @ 11:18 AM
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OK...

Crakeur, PLEASE don't tell me black people were only harassed after this carjacking thing, and never before. If you do, I will surely vomit...
I bet if I said that Jews were never harassed until WWII you'd have a field day bashing me.

And you other 2, how is it that these Muslims were solely responsible for 9/11 when some of the supposed hijackers ARE STILL ALIVE!!! I also see you had nothing to say about the Muslims helping Tim McVeigh, Maximus.


It's really incredible how these fools work. They start off harassing certain groups of people that the majority will accept being harassed. Then, when the majority themselves are being harassed, they have nothing to say because they've been conditioned to accept it.

And please tell me how my statement was racist. Y'all seem to be ignorant of the real deal here. It's not about getting the "terrorists;" it's about taking our rights. Are y'all blind or something? How is that hard to see? Even with this new event in Miami, y'all still support profiling!?! It's incredible.

See, it's easy to say profiling's ok when you've never been profiled. When you have been profiled, though, by cops and regular people, for some reason you don't like it.
And I still stand by my earlier comments. It's even better because the European Americans who will continue to be profiled will, for the most part, have no clue what's really going on...




posted on Dec, 5 2005 @ 03:39 PM
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Originally posted by truthseekaCrakeur, PLEASE don't tell me black people were only harassed after this carjacking thing, and never before. If you do, I will surely vomit...
I bet if I said that Jews were never harassed until WWII you'd have a field day bashing me.


not what I was saying. I was referring to this specific case to point out that sometimes racial profiling is a necessary evil and that in the case of those carjackings, even the african american community admitted that, after 9/11, they understood the reasoning.

I do think that african americans are under a constant racial profiling to varying degrees and used that one case as a means of showing that sometimes it is needed. In the case of those carjackings, the victims all described black men between a certain age range so yeah. the cops are going to pay more attention to anyone fitting the description.

lastly, no matter what you were to say, I would't bash you. I see no point in it. this is a discussion board, not a bashing board. it won't help anyone learn something, it won't convert someone's thinking or help someone see anything more clearly. nope. I prefer the calm, controlled conversation. Not only does it have greater impact, it further infuriates the bashers.




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