What else could you expect from a murderer/abusive alcoholic?

I am not qualified to answer, but any uprising of slaves against owners is just in my book.

Originally posted by MaskedAvatar
Weather balloon labs AND buried fighter planes AND dead Kurds?


The reason for the war was the clear and imminent danger of deployable WMDs. It has been diluted to weapons programs. No scratch that, it wasn't the weapons, it was really to get rid of an evil Dictator, and Iraq will be better off.

Hang on! Over there! The weapons are in Syria! No, there - Lebanon! But wait - we can talk about the Saudis and 9/11 loosely, now. Oops, Iran is looking like a nuclear capable country some time!

No, wait! OPEC is later this year - let's do Venezuala!

Now - aha - there's Saddam over there - let's go talk to him! We'll have a blackout for some cover, shall we?



I can follow the ball under the three cups fine, thank you. This is the most criminal and corrupt government in US history.

Yes, those were definitely mobile weather balloon producing labs. That is why we attacked them, they had that mobile balloon lab project going and we could not afford a weather balloon gap!

True enough, there seems to be a problem finding the reason for attacking, but that is because they didn't think we'd believe the baseline reason for attacking - he is part of the terror problem and must be taken out. Simple. There were some of us screaming at our TV sets, "Shut up about "liberation", dummies, its about war on terror!!" because we didn't need the reason du jour. That does look very fishy and I see your reasoning there.
But to say this is the most corrupt administration in U.S. history is to ignore a whole lot of history. Especially the 8 years before this one!

Goregrinder...

I am from the commonwealth the Senator Kennedy represents. I know him and his stance on many world and national issues well. I have never voted for him myself because I believe that many of his views are very socialistic in nature, and that he believes that a welfare state is best.

However.......

Facts are facts. If it walks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, is must be a duck. Sen. Kennedy feels comfortable using the firm language he chose because he is armed with facts. Not lies, not mistruths, not misdirections. Facts. I don't care what you say, when an administration asks for a butt-load of money, and some of it ends up in the pockets of the rulers of semi-friendly countries, in order for them to either do something for us (or to not interfere) I call that BRIBERY.

Now, in the world of international politics, bribery may be a perfectly acceptable method of diplomacy. I will not debate that. However, if Pres. Bush can't stand the heat of criticism, and cries foul because someone used mean language against him, than he should pack it up. You think Ronald Reagan would have ever given a rat's ass if Ted Kennedy called him a name? Bush's reaction and the reaction of his cabinet are a reflection of their politcal ineptness and a natural reaction to being call out on shady politics.

GG, you referenced a Boston Globe article to support your arguement. Try this one instead:

www.boston.com...

Ted Kennedy has no right to criticize US foreign policy because he had something to do with a death in Chappaquitic 30 years ago?

How exactly does that work? Is it only relevant to discuss US policy if you have a untarnished past? He's a drunken, no-pants-wearing blowhard, but that doesn't mean he can't have relevant discourse on governmental policies. He's been a part of the government for decades.

What about Rush Limbaugh? Are his views relevant? Does he have anything that he was involved in that discredits any of his arguments?


jakomo

I thought this thread was about Bush and doesn't this belong in the mudpit? Oh, I forgot about the double standard.

Oh, and its nice to see that TC has finally mustered (or drank down) enough courage to return to ATS and face the music that Bush is a LYING loser--as I have been trying to tell him for months. Good show.