NEWS: China prepares to invade "inferior white race's" countries

Originally posted by truttseeker


You my friend have talked about it. Plus americans are only fat and lazy until their fat and lazy way of life is disturbed. Then we rise up and slap the opposition.

Hasn't the U.S. proven that?

Originally posted by rmatrem

Originally posted by truttseeker


You my friend have talked about it. Plus americans are only fat and lazy until their fat and lazy way of life is disturbed. Then we rise up and slap the opposition.

Hasn't the U.S. proven that?

As long as the opposition is goat herders or has a poorly trained and equipped army.

Put the US Army up against real opposition, like they haven't seen in 60 years and we shall see how well they fair.

Acknowledged, the US is very powerful, but to underestimate your enemy is too tempt defeat.

Alot of people here fail to realise that and thump there chests as if they are invinceable. That is far from the truth.

Originally posted by stumason
Yes..I know...It is still a fighter. Hence why it is called a Stealth Fighter, has the F designation etc etc.

Because it is not a classical bomber.

www.bangalorenet.com...

The name "Stealth Fighter" does not justify the use of this aircraft as it does not have the capability to fight air to air combat and has no defenses as chaff, flare, dispensers,jammers etc, As it relies completely on its stealth capability and the night to avoiid air defenses and enemy fighters.

It is incapable of engaging other aircraft. All it can do is try to avoid them. Its true purpose is as a bomber.
>besides, Stealth Bomber was taken.

I'm still wondering about this 5million people that have rejected the Communist Party. What has the leadership done about them? They have always seemed quick to put down any dissidents and make sure they are not heard. 5million people, while being a drop in the pool of the Chinese population, would seem a big enough number to take action against in a Cummunist regime.

[edit on 25-11-2005 by apc]

Originally posted by stumason

While it is a fighter by name, it is a bomber by nature. Stealths are typically escorted by F-15/16s to defend them against enemy aircraft until they cannot follow.

Yes..I know...It is still a fighter. Hence why it is called a Stealth Fighter, has the F designation etc etc.

The F-16 is a fighter, but can be used for ground attack and bombing missions, but it is still a fighter. The way it is used is interchangeable, but that doesn;t detract from the fact it is a fighter.

It is in NO WAY a fighter! Please... this is exactly the same point I am trying to make with you...

You don't understand the FULL concept!

For example... with the F-117... It has a F designator, but it is NOT a fighter... NOTHING about it's design and flight ability makes it a fighter! NOTHING... there are reasons why it was given the F designator, but that is beyond the scope of this discussion.

The point is "matey",

You don't fully get the concept of American culture. You have partial facts and ignore prior posted facts...

Therefore, your arguement is based on fallacies which is sadly misleading the discussion beyond intelligent conversation...

Since this thread is in the realm of virtual armageddon I feel I should chime in as well.

China, despite OVERWHELMING military numbers advantage, would never commit the equivalent of extinction by an outright invasion of the U.S.

The only plausible scenario I envision of China attacking America in any form would come with some sort of backdoor alliance between atleast Russia and one more heavyweight in the global world. If say the East (Russia, China) and a coalition of Arab nations (Iran, Syria) had a true military alliance then and only then would an attack from China come.

Also, I'm pretty sure an invasion scenario would never succeed. What is more probable is a sneak massive nuclear or biological or crippling combination of WMD attack on major populated areas of the United States. That sort of attack would have to be so massive as to literally obliterate every major city in America. And the reasoning for such a massive attack would be to cripple America early in order to maintain open fronts against American allies such as Western Europe, Israel, Japan, South Korea while the U.S. regroups its forces for a counter strike.

I am not too familiar with India's political leaning in the event of WW3 but I am pretty sure India would be mobilized to counter a Chinese invasion. Or they may get sandwiched between China and Pakistan and be forced to defend for their lives.

Interesting times indeed....

Originally posted by rmatrem
The point is "matey",

You don't fully get the concept of American culture. You have partial facts and ignore prior posted facts...

Therefore, your arguement is based on fallacies which is sadly misleading the discussion beyond intelligent conversation...

Ok....Let me try and get this through your skull.

The situation is hypothetical and is coming from a Chinese General.

Got that bit? Ok...

He claims that China has a Bio-weapon to kill everyone except Chinese folks...

Got that? Right, moving on....

If they use it and tens of millions of Americans die, how do you honestly expect to mount an effective resitance?

The whole conversation is hypothetical, so you cannot claim that US "culture" will prevail without factoring in that the Chinese plan involves Genocide on a scale not seen before.

If you want to have an intellgent discussion regarding the whole bloody point of the thread, then you can't selective ignore bits and beat your chest about how you would win easily. The only discussion that is pertinent to the thread involves considering the concept of a wholesale bio-weapon attack on the US mainland. To ignore that fact is to ignore the whole point of the thread.

You know what, this reminds me of a signature I have read on this board.

"Do not argue with an idiot, he will drag you down to his level and beat you with expierience"

Certainly feels like that now.....

Where is that brick wall...I must go and bang my head.

Just ignoring the fact that this speech is complete BS, I think this thread ended along time ago. As APC said no one country can take over the entire world. There not just fighting the U.S., their fighting the entire world.

One more point I would like to add. Wouldn't attacking Canada be the smartest thing for China to do? I am Canadian, but I know our defences are inferior to those of the US. We have much more resources, and a much smaller population than the US. We are also much larger than the US(this whole thing is about space). I really hope they dont though, just my two cents.

[edit on 26-11-2005 by Charlie Murphy]

Just ignoring the fact that this speech is complete BS

That it is, but it is still the topic up for discussion. The guy whose speech it is has been removed from any position of power, so i doubt this is the official Chinese stance.

However, the mere idea that the have bio-weapons that they claim can kill non-chinese is a scary thought.

I just don't like that someone this radical came into a position of power in the first place. That concerns me greatly over the internal politics of China.

And as far as attacking Canada, that would be one of only two possible scenarios for a land invasion of the US. The other being attacking Mexico. Such scenarios would be pointless if all the whites and blacks (I guess the Indians and Mexicans would still be alive, having descended from the Chinese they would not be affected by the weapon) were already dead. However, if a land invasion were necessary, they would have to first gather forces outside the US. To say this would be a difficult task is an understatement, because it would just take us 15minutes longer to bomb them.

>Wondering... if such a weapon did exist, the designers would somehow have to take into account mixed genetics. Nearly all Americans have some Indian branches in their tree, just as nearly all Mexicans have some European. I don't know much about China's genetic history, but I know there are many Chinese/white, Chinese/black, etc, families here in the US. Seeing as one stated goal is "liberating" the Indians, it must be a strong desire of theirs not to injure anyone with Chinese blood.


[edit on 26-11-2005 by apc]

Originally posted by stumason

Originally posted by rmatrem
The point is "matey",

You don't fully get the concept of American culture. You have partial facts and ignore prior posted facts...

Therefore, your arguement is based on fallacies which is sadly misleading the discussion beyond intelligent conversation...

Ok....Let me try and get this through your skull.

The situation is hypothetical and is coming from a Chinese General.

Got that bit? Ok...

He claims that China has a Bio-weapon to kill everyone except Chinese folks...

Got that? Right, moving on....

Here we go again:

"We must prepare ourselves for two scenarios. If our biological weapons succeed in the surprise attack [on the United States], the Chinese people will be able to keep their losses at a minimum in the fight against the United States. If, however, the attack fails and triggers a nuclear retaliation from the United States, China would perhaps suffer a catastrophe in which more than half of its population would perish. That is why we need to be ready with air defense systems for our big and medium-sized cities. Whatever the case may be, we can only move forward fearlessly for the sake of our Party and state and our nation’s future, regardless of the hardships we have to face and the sacrifices we have to make. The population, even if more than half dies, can be reproduced. But if the Party falls, everything is gone, and forever gone!"

You need to state and understand the whole hypothetical situation

Assuming the statments were made by Chi Haotian are true the guy is either on crack or is insane. In theroy China may be able to come up with enough troops to occupy the USA but thats about it.
Surely the CIA would notice an invasion force headed for the USA?

As for occupying Aust China would have to occupy an awful lot of the Asia and thats not mentioning the long supply lines china would have to defend.

China suffers from the same problem that Germany and Japan did in WW2 the bulk of natuarl resources have to be imported. China is open to a econmic blockade.

Originally posted by rmatrem
Here we go again:

"We must prepare ourselves for two scenarios. If our biological weapons succeed in the surprise attack [on the United States], the Chinese people will be able to keep their losses at a minimum in the fight against the United States. If, however, the attack fails and triggers a nuclear retaliation from the United States, China would perhaps suffer a catastrophe in which more than half of its population would perish. That is why we need to be ready with air defense systems for our big and medium-sized cities. Whatever the case may be, we can only move forward fearlessly for the sake of our Party and state and our nation’s future, regardless of the hardships we have to face and the sacrifices we have to make. The population, even if more than half dies, can be reproduced. But if the Party falls, everything is gone, and forever gone!"

You need to state and understand the whole hypothetical situation

Yes, here we go again....

To put your argument into context:

You claimed that in the case of Chinese occupation (therefore assuming that their first strike with bio-weapons worked) the US would rise up and get their guns from Walmart......fighting off the commies and winning the war.

My argument was that should the first strike be successful, you would not be able to do so. Please explain, that if a bio-attack wiped out a good portion of the US population, how would you go down Walmart to buy your guns?

Granted, if the initial bio-attack failed, then we are in a diiferent hypothetical situation which is a open for debate and I am not arguing against a US victory, providing they thwart the initial bio attack designed to kill all non-chinese.

For the Chinese plan to work, they would need to make sure that the first strike was

1. Totally Surprising, in that the US cannot defend against or know who did it
   
2. Totally effective. It is of no use to have a weapon that only kills 25% of it's intended targets
   

If the US survived or thwarted the initial bio-attack designed to kill all non-chinese, then yes, China would get quite vigourously buggered by the US response and rightly so.

If the attack was successful, I fail to see how you could fight off an occupation and subsequent colonization, which is the stated aim of the war.

Originally posted by xpert11
Assuming the statments were made by Chi Haotian are true the guy is either on crack or is insane. In theroy China may be able to come up with enough troops to occupy the USA but thats about it.
Surely the CIA would notice an invasion force headed for the USA?

As for occupying Aust China would have to occupy an awful lot of the Asia and thats not mentioning the long supply lines china would have to defend.

China suffers from the same problem that Germany and Japan did in WW2 the bulk of natuarl resources have to be imported. China is open to a econmic blockade.

It's clear this is fake and/or completely unlikely. But you do make a point people keep ignoring. The economic effect on China would stop them from invading after a bio attack.

For example, I believe China only has about 10 days of reserves of oil. Once the American population was attack and even if most were killed off, other countries would stop importing supplies including oil... without oil, you don't have the means of an invasion.

Also, you are right, they would have to protect their supply lines, which in fact don't come from China... China is too depended on other countries for much needed supplies while America needs toys from China.

And there was a post about attacking Canada instead of the US... If anyone attacks Canada... they ARE attacking the US.

As much as the US and Canada bumps heads... They are still military brothers and neighbors...

That was an excelent, well-rounded and right to the point post! A+

yeah, but if say 75 percent of the people die here then we still have 25 percent of the population left. According to the CIA factbook the american population rounded up is 300,000,000. 75,000,000 people left. Most people that would die would be the weaker people with lesser immune systems. That means 75,000,000 strong americans plus about 500,000(just a guess) troops overseas, 150,000 of which are battle hardened in iraq and afghanistan. That is still a mighty force to be reconed with.

[edit on 26-11-2005 by truttseeker]

Now don't get me wrong, I would be one of the people weaing my mask when the attack commenced, but I dont think "strength" would have anything to do with it.

Such a weapon would most likely be a retrovirus operating on the same methodology as HIV. The weapon would be based entirely on the theoretical belief that the Chinese (most Asians actually) are descended from a different homo sapien origination. The Multiple-Origins Theory. By this theory, the genes of all whites, blacks, arabs and true Indians (both considered caucasian), etc, would be readily identifiable as dissimilar from Asian genes. It would have to target these basic differences only. As I said in my amendment to my previous post... therein lies a big problem. They would kill thousands of people who have Chinese blood in their veins, but also non-Chinese. I don't know how such a weapon could be created with modern technology that carried such precise descrimination. With Chinese technology, I would have to say it is highly, highly improbable.

Originally posted by stumason
Yes..I know...It is still a fighter. Hence why it is called a Stealth Fighter, has the F designation etc etc.

The F-16 is a fighter, but can be used for ground attack and bombing missions, but it is still a fighter. The way it is used is interchangeable, but that doesn;t detract from the fact it is a fighter.

It was given the F designation for various reasons none of which made it a fighter..

One of which was so it would appeal to fighter pilots.

Look up its history for more info on the reasons for the F designation,

The F-117 Has no Air to Air weapons, It only drops bombs, It is a bomber.

[edit on 26-11-2005 by C0le]

"Our strength lies in our intensive attacks and our barbarity..."

China should not be trusted in any way shape or form. Im sure the communist leadership recognizes this quote from Hitler

If china wants to invade the US, just because its running out of room for development. We cant lose. The US will do anything it can do. From reinstating the draft, droping the newest and most effective weapons on them to the point where its not even right. The allies will oblitarate china. Not even to mention the support we will have.

Plus china got beat by japan back in ww2. i doubt in 70 years there all ready to invade us and win when they couldnt even hold off a smaller country.



[edit on 26-11-2005 by cam man]

I thought this was bogus the last time it was posted, and still do.

It just sounds like something concocted as a scaremongering tactic.