Antarctic Nazi base, ( NeuSchwabanland)

The Nazi's claimed the southern pole for the Third Reich in the 1930's. Here Hitler created an underground ice base for his U-Boats, an impenetrable fortress in the southern hemisphere. Could Hitler have escaped here after the war? Also why did the US military launch a large invasion of the continent in 1947? Read more about it here.

www.violations.dabsol.co.uk...

I did not read the site you gave a link to. I did look at the pictures though and they were blurry. I didnt see any pictures of the base.

Originally posted by ilovepizza
I did not read the site you gave a link to. I did look at the pictures though and they were blurry. I didnt see any pictures of the base.

The base is hidden beneath the ice.

So how does anyone know thats it there, then?

Here is dialogue about antarctica:

Q: (T) Do any of the tunnels lead to Antarctica?
A: No.
Q: (T) Is there any way of getting to Antarctica through the tunnel systems even if you have to come to the surface occasionally?
A: Okay.
Q: (L) Are humans ever taken into these tunnels or places underground... (T) Against their will?
A: Sometimes.
Q: (T) Is there some kind of underground base in Antarctica?
A: Yes. Eight.
Q: (T) Are they related to the tunnels in time?
A: Vague.
Q: (T) Were any of those bases underground in Antarctica built by the Germans during World War II?
A: Sect.
Q: (T) Nazis?
A: Remember, all is structured in cycles and circles.
Q: (L) In other words, these tunnels were built by and belong to the Consortium, is that correct?
A: Circles within circles.
Q: (L) Masons?
A: One example of concept.

from www.cassiopaea.com

Whats with all the nazi propaghanda surfacing lately?

In my personal opinion


NWO ties in with Nazis and that is why I posted that pic of george bush with a swastica. His dad is a member if the NWO, so as such, I wanted people to know that.


Hatred, Fear, Death, Rasicm, why are there such things in thie world?

Will the evolution of mankind ever begin or will we be locked within the chain reactions of our foolish past?

The Age of aquarius will bring peace and love to our mother earth and rid us of evil.

I have heard about this before.

The US tried to do this duing the second world war they tried to build a base in the mid atlantic so there subs would not have to travel as far to re-fuel.

They tried again during the cold war when they wanted as did the russians to try and get ICBM's there for faster impact times

All this was speculation never proved.

I really hate the conspiracies where aliens are "channeled" and crap like that.

Most of them use cryptic one word answers to further muddy the water from real research and sidetrack many people.

I get the feeling that "channeling" is dis-info propagation.

Just my .02$

Originally posted by Crawford
They tried again during the cold war when they wanted as did the russians to try and get ICBM's there for faster impact times
All this was speculation never proved.

One point; If ICBM's were located in Antartica (south pole) it would have taken a much longer time to reach the former Soviet Union - not a shorter time.

That said, It is true that Admiral Robert Byrd led an expeditionary/invasion force into Antartica in 1947 and the force sustained losses; Whether those losses were due to adverse weather conditions or hostilities the fact remains that a combat ready force was indeed taken down there.

Admiral Byrd is also credited with stating that it was "necessary for the US to take defensive actions against enemy air fighters which come from the polar regions" and that the US could be "attacked by fighters able to fly from one pole to another with incredible speed."

This certainly gives one the impression that there could be some truth to the Nazi propaganda referring to a base in Antartica as well as feed speculation on Nazi engineered UFOs.

There is countless information on this subject to be found on the internet, and my school of thought prefers to follow known facts and then take those facts flavored with the most plausible unsubstatiated assertions to a logical set of conclusions.

Could the Nazi's have established a base in Antartica and kept it both secretive and operational for over 50 years? One would think not, but consider that the Nazi's in Germany had underground research factories that were great feats of construction and engineering, containing winding tunnels, machine shops, assembly plants, launch pads, supply depots and accomodations for all men who worked there - and yet very few people knew that these facilities existed until the end of the war.

Now "white world" scientists are finding 60-70 degree water temperatures in certain locations and magnetic anomalies suggesting the far-fetched possibility of a hidden city or base...

Also since the end of WW2 there has been wave after wave of UFO sightings - in all parts of the world but especially the US and south America. Makes one wonder if there might be a connection.

This is certainly an interesting thread and I look forward to seeing what others have to say...

intelgurl

Originally posted by intelgurl

Originally posted by Crawford
They tried again during the cold war when they wanted as did the russians to try and get ICBM's there for faster impact times
All this was speculation never proved.

One point; If ICBM's were located in Antartica (south pole) it would have taken a much longer time to reach the former Soviet Union - not a shorter time.

That said, It is true that Admiral Robert Byrd led an expeditionary/invasion force into Antartica in 1947 and the force sustained losses; Whether those losses were due to adverse weather conditions or hostilities the fact remains that a combat ready force was indeed taken down there.

Admiral Byrd is also credited with stating that it was "necessary for the US to take defensive actions against enemy air fighters which come from the polar regions" and that the US could be "attacked by fighters able to fly from one pole to another with incredible speed."

This certainly gives one the impression that there could be some truth to the Nazi propaganda referring to a base in Antartica as well as feed speculation on Nazi engineered UFOs.

There is countless information on this subject to be found on the internet, and my school of thought prefers to follow known facts and then take those facts flavored with the most plausible unsubstatiated assertions to a logical set of conclusions.

Could the Nazi's have established a base in Antartica and kept it both secretive and operational for over 50 years? One would think not, but consider that the Nazi's in Germany had underground research factories that were great feats of construction and engineering, containing winding tunnels, machine shops, assembly plants, launch pads, supply depots and accomodations for all men who worked there - and yet very few people knew that these facilities existed until the end of the war.

Now "white world" scientists are finding 60-70 degree water temperatures in certain locations and magnetic anomalies suggesting the far-fetched possibility of a hidden city or base...

Also since the end of WW2 there has been wave after wave of UFO sightings - in all parts of the world but especially the US and south America. Makes one wonder if there might be a connection.

This is certainly an interesting thread and I look forward to seeing what others have to say...

intelgurl

heres a good link....the made a movie about it.

www.thule.org...

Another thread on the same subject :

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Thats some pretty far out stuff. Ya know i've heard before that the SS had a paranormal division, not really sure if this is true or not. Anyone else hear anything bout this? I know they had a video game which had a plot based around this so I do not know if it really is true or not. But them NAZIs did some pretty far out stuff.

I read it all and it was very interesting.. The SS paranormal division is from the game Castle Wolfenstein.. Although Hitler was interested in that sort of stuff..

It may be worth remembering that running secret undeground bases requires more than mindless minions for James Bond types to sneak past and / or mow down when the situation gets out of hand...

Yup, electricity. Electricity from where? As far as I know, there were maybe two sources in wide use in WWII: hydroelectric and fossil fuels. Hydroelectric? In the snow? Even with conservation, the Nazis would run out of lights and freeze within a year. Also, where would they get their food, enough for say 5 000 technicians, soldiers and administrative staff? Go shoot penguins and harpoon orcas? Do orcas even visit the Antarctic? I'm not a zoologist...

Soooooo....

They must be getting their juice, spare parts and ReichBurgers from somewhere. How? Deliver with submarines. Or even regular cargo ships (avoid icebergs!) Or airdrops (expensive, you need an airstrip). How far from the coast is it?



So, who in the past might POSSIBLY be friendly to a bunch of defeated Aryan goose-steppers? (And don't say the US!! We all know about Project Paperclip) Who would get along just FINE with them? Gee, I wonder which country THAT could be?

Political Map of Antarctica

Too big for forum... intelgurl would yell at me...

As for location, if it's "underground" as opposed to being drilled into permafrost, there are a number of possibilities...

CIA World Factbook (So they do do something other than tap our phones and read our emails!)

[Edited on 19-11-2003 by Lampyridae]

Originally posted by LampyridaeToo big for forum... intelgurl would yell at me...

LOL! Am I getting a reputation around here?

We-eeelll....

You're OK by me!

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Originally posted by Crawford
That said, It is true that Admiral Robert Byrd led an expeditionary/invasion force into Antartica in 1947 and the force sustained losses; Whether those losses were due to adverse weather conditions or hostilities the fact remains that a combat ready force was indeed taken down there.

Admiral Byrd is also credited with stating that it was "necessary for the US to take defensive actions against enemy air fighters which come from the polar regions" and that the US could be "attacked by fighters able to fly from one pole to another with incredible speed."

That is totally false. The expeditionary force returned in the shame shape as it had originally left the US with NO casualties. There was NO attack or combat of ANY sort. Admiral Byrd may well have been 'credited' as saying there was, but he was credited falsely. Now you have to ask yourself why this was and who it suits. Answer: only those purveyors of this Nazi/UFO Antarctic base nonsense.

This is just another case of people taking Internet rumour as fact without even bothering to check anything out for themselves.

Begin your education yourself with THIS link.

www.south-pole.com...

Originally posted by SabbyJ

Originally posted by intelgurl
That said, It is true that Admiral Robert Byrd led an expeditionary/invasion force into Antartica in 1947 and the force sustained losses; Whether those losses were due to adverse weather conditions or hostilities the fact remains that a combat ready force was indeed taken down there.

Admiral Byrd is also credited with stating that it was "necessary for the US to take defensive actions against enemy air fighters which come from the polar regions" and that the US could be "attacked by fighters able to fly from one pole to another with incredible speed."

That is totally false. The expeditionary force returned in the shame shape as it had originally left the US with NO casualties. There was NO attack or combat of ANY sort. Admiral Byrd may well have been 'credited' as saying there was, but he was credited falsely. Now you have to ask yourself why this was and who it suits. Answer: only those purveyors of this Nazi/UFO Antarctic base nonsense.

This is just another case of people taking Internet rumour as fact without even bothering to check anything out for themselves.

Begin your education yourself with THIS link.

www.south-pole.com...

Accordingly to the link which you provided, there were in fact four deaths and some injuries, mainly from the crash of a PBM. A helicopter was also lost, both in accidents. There were apparently no combat aircraft aboard the carrier USS Philippine Sea, only six modified R4D transport aircraft (DC-3 variants) plus the helicopter. There would have been no room on deck for fighter aircraft, presumably, and the crew was also inexperienced and the ship brand new - hardly something you'd send into a combat zone.

So, what you said about there being no casualties was false. Kindly bear it in mind when you contradict somebdoy in future.

Douglas R4D

Still, from the website you provided, a few interesting tidbits emerge:

After the outbreak of the war, a few German trading vessels, essentially pirate ships, cruised Antarctic waters in search of potential victims. In January 1941, German Commander Ernst-Felix Kr�der, aboard the PINGUIN, captured a Norwegian whaling fleet (factory ships OLE WEGGER and PELAGOS, supply ship SOLGLIMT and eleven whale-catchers) in about 59�S, 02�30'W. The PINGUIN was finally sunk off the Persian Gulf by HMS CORNWALL on May 8, 1941, after she had captured 136,550 tons of British and allied shipping.

However, the basic objectives were not diplomatic, scientific or economic -- they were military. OPERATION HIGHJUMP was, and to this day still is, the largest Antarctic expedition ever organized.

Thanks for the link, anyway, very good and informative site!

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Originally posted by intelgurl
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Accordingly to the link which you provided, there were in fact four deaths and some injuries, mainly from the crash of a PBM. A helicopter was also lost, both in accidents. There were apparently no combat aircraft aboard the carrier USS Philippine Sea, only six modified R4D transport aircraft (DC-3 variants) plus the helicopter. There would have been no room on deck for fighter aircraft, presumably, and the crew was also inexperienced and the ship brand new - hardly something you'd send into a combat zone.

I do have to admit to initially reading the site when half asleep late at night.....but that said, 4 losses due to a PBM crash is hardly a shocking occurence during such a large scale expedition to the frozen wastes, especially given the inexperience of many of the crew. It's hardly the stuff of UFO attacks and mass battles against an unseen enemy is it? Look how many helicopters went down during the first Gulf war due to pilot error, not enemy action - despite being equipped with all the modern technological aids that aircraft in the 1940's were never advantaged with. I do believe I was fully justified in contradicting the other member's somewhat 'extravagant' viewpoint!

I find the image conjured up by the 'Nazi Pirate Ships' in the quote you used rather amusing. It gives a picture of undisciplined, self-serving, vagabonds riding the high-seas in search of random pillage and plunder. These units were in fact sanctioned by the German High Command and were part of the Kriegsmarine, their mission to sink allied shipping whilst disguised as foreign merchantmen and suchlike. Their activities were spread across the globe, not just the antarctic.

For more info check out this fascinating book:

Hitler's Secret Pirate Fleet

At the end of the day, when it comes to secret Nazi bases, if one existed in those icy wastes we'd know about it by now. After all, we live in an age where a spy satellite can peer down through the atmosphere and read a newspaper over your shoulder, and your telephone, radio and Internet communications can be tracked, traced and monitored at the touch of a button.
Even if such a base were underground, there'd be surface activity at some stage, even if it were just some stir-crazy Oberleutnant sneaking outside for a quick cigarette!