The Great Avian Scare

Let's delve into the mysterious world of speculative theorizing of the Avian Flu pandemic that seems to be spreading acrossed the globe. I believe the Avian Scare is being manufactured to lay out the groundwork for a complete takeover of some sorts. I know this topic has been briefly talked about in various threads.. I just wanted to throw out my take on it all..

The first reported cases of the H5N1 seemed to have arrived in a duck in 1996 located in the Guangdong Province which moved the pandemic to Phase 2. By 2004, the pandemic reach Phase 4 and exploded acrossed the Asia.

In late 2004, the media fueled by the influenza flu vaccine shortage, (and the piles of flu information overwhelmingly pouring out of the CDC), paved the way for the recent events. The blitz of seemingly nonstop reporting on the fears of not having a flu shot got everyone's attention.. even if you didn't care. And now in late 2005, the seemingly nonstop reporting of the H5N1 Avian flu (and the piles of information overwhelmingly pouring out of the CDC) have now paved the way to the next step.

Fear is something you have to slowly bring into play. I think the world learned this after 9/11. If you scare the population too strongly, to badly, in one acute incident, they become increasingly curious and skeptical. But if you scare them slowly, in a more chronic fashion, they become complacent.

Now, I've always been one to beleive the media isn't necessarily on the side of the government. They aren't in "cohoots" with them. But the media, fueled by 24hour news coverage, jump on every bit of information fed to them. They are very easily munipulated. Just following the trend of the CDC releasing information to the public (which the media jumps all over) over the past 2 years is enough to spark my curiousity. Last year, while the H5N1 was spreading all over Asia, we heard absolutly nothing from the CDC regarding the pandemic. It was already in phase 4, teatering on Phase 5, but the only information the CDC gave was how to protect yourself from the influenza flu shortage... Absolutly nothing regarding the Avian Flu. Now take a look at 2005. Avian flu is the main concern of the CDC. They are pumping out seemingly endless articles regarding the Avian Flu, and the media, being desperate for a story to fill their 24 hour coverage, are gobbling it up.

Now, let's take a twist.

I feel we're being prepped. The CDC seems to be going out of its way to fuel this pandemic fear. The government has made huge changes to the constitution in regards to the "new" fear.

Problem - Reaction - Solution

The CDC created the problem. The media (innocently?) created the reaction. The government then jumps in with a solution.

Does anyone see a problem with this? The 'problem' wasn't a problem until the CDC announced it. The H5N1 flu has reportably been killing people as far back as 1997. But now, all of a sudden, it's a pandemic and we have to stop it! But the CDC knew about this. They just chose to not report it.

Now, one thing that has always sparked my curiousity is the nature of how these birds are dying. Entire migrations dying at once. Now, if one bird were to pick up this virus, how does the entire flock get it at the same time? I've thought long and hard about this. How exactly could the virus, if picked up by one bird, spread to the entire flock. After long consideration I've only been able to come up with 2 explanations. Water (bathing, drinking) and a Food Source.

Now I'm sure the virus could pass other ways. Direct contact with another bird, etc. But for it to literally take out an entire flock, it would have to have been picked up at the relatively the same time. Am I wrong?

This got me thinking about how easy it is for our scienctists to create such a virus. For them to acquire a sample of the H7 virus, manipulate it, and rerelease it seed would be rather trivial. If we can remake the 1918 flu using a blood sample of an old dead soldier, then we can surely manipulate a virus slightly enough that it spreads wildly throughout a bird population.

Now, how could they redistribute the newly formed bird virus? Food. Everyone loves birds. Many people have bird feeders. What's to stop them from contaminating a few controlled sacks of bird seed being shipped to Asia?

Now why would they do this? To scare us. To cause the problem, and present the solution. Now that they've scared us, and now have us exactly where they want us.. it's time to unleash the modified H5N1 Human to Human strain.

This is where I envision things getting ugly. The first case of Quarentine in the US is obviously going to spark a huge outcry. But as this virus spreads, people are going to refuse to be held in Quarentine if they do not have the virus. Thus, sparking an uprise.

Martial Law will be enacted, and President Skull & Bones will reign much longer then desired.

How's that for population control.

Now, how could they redistribute the newly formed bird virus?

2008 Beijing Olympics.

Long before Avian Flu was ever mentioned, a virus eminating out of China was considered one of the NWO's most logical future tatics of population reduction.

The Olympics are going to be the perfect place for spreading a flu virus to all corners of the globe. A few top secret NWO bio-terrorists could release a mutated virus with out anyones knowledge very easily.

Programe the virus to delay it's signs so if you get it today, it's a weeks before you even notice any affects and bamb! You've just spread a virus around the world and it won't start being reported until after the Olympics when most people have already flown home.

Global quarentines start up in all countries rather than cornering a few people in China.

I don't believe this virus will mutate on it's own. If they are already talking about it and hyping it, it's either nothing more than a pharmacutical payoff or else it's going to be used as a targeted virus for NWO ideals, in this case, population control & reduction.

All the propaganda work for the 'biological terrorism threat' was just creating a 'historical record' so they have someone to go back to and blame. Half of the crap the media reports is purely reference material for future issues that need a pretext or motivation to look back upon.

This is how you plan a NWO.

Well it is entirely possible..

add to the mixed salad the fact that all the major players that stemmed from the one source...meaning USA, Australia and UK have just introduced "tough new terror laws"

Avian flu can be classified a terror threat..... and these new laws can be used in a case of a pandemic to rid the governments of the trouble makers once and for all......

Oh dear...sorry Ma'am ..he was shot trying to escape...yeah right..........

After world war one in Hungary, specially Buda and Pest, the two river towns now joined to be called Budapest, the people thought it could never happen again, the people thoguht they could never ever have the same terror the same horror like the Germans bought...the world will nevr let the jews die like that again...the world won't let the jewsbe squashed and trampled...well we know what happened in Budapest in the 1956. It happened again to the jews.....

Free speech was stifled, people were encouraged to report their neighbours, media blackout, Jews disapeared, jews were shot and killed.....

it was warned by others who could see it coming, but the people chose to be complacent they chose to say it couldn't happen to them, they chose to think that with modern freedom it could never be repeated (the holocaust) the people said that they were good citizens who contributed to society so why should they worry....they said they obeyed the laws.....

bit like now, the complacency of the people, she will be right jack, won't happen to me, I am ok, I do the right thing...those laws are for the criminals and bombers and and and and

and it happened.....as it will happen now.....

but who is going to save the peoples hide if they won't save themselves....


say no to reduced freedom, say no to invasions of privacy, say no to the terror laws that really are just put there to control you.......

and its easy... watch close encounters of the third time... the way the government kept the people out of that area.... they killled a few animals, made a few people sick by spray, quarantined the area, put warnings and pictures over all media broadcasts showing the dead animals...and pretended to have an all out pandemic of some kind.....

that kept them controlled




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OMG!
this is exactly my theory Quitesoul, I was just discussing this with my family the other night actually.

I thoroughly enjoyed your, as well as the others, input and opinions on this


It's JUST crazy enough to be true

I read "A Higher Form Of Killing" (non-fiction) a few months ago, before the 'Bird Flu' was on daily MSM. The book is about chemical and biological warfare. I highly recommend it to anyone interested in the topics of WMDs and/or biological warfare. I got this book from my SO, who was a Chem/ Bio instructor and trainer for almost 10 years.

I walked away from the book, thinking the 1918 flu pandemic being scientifically engineered, is highly probable. The book left me with an uncomfortable feeling in my stomach.

FWIW, pigeons were used for many different purposes during World Wars I and II. Messages may not have been the only thing they were carrying to other continents.

Just saying.

Edit: You can read the first few pages of the book here:
www.amazon.com/

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Does anyone see a problem with this? The 'problem' wasn't a problem until the CDC announced it. The H5N1 flu has reportably been killing people as far back as 1997. But now, all of a sudden, it's a pandemic and we have to stop it! But the CDC knew about this. They just chose to not report it.

It's interesting when this information came out. Right about the same time that opinion polls were dropping, govenments were pushing through restrictive security and trade legislations as well as experiencing blowback from dubious decisions. How do you stop the media from increasing scrutiny on what's really going on? Short answer, you don't. Instead, you provide them with something perceptibly bigger, something more pressing, something that threatens every man, woman or child. Then, newspaper columns get filled, t.v. news reports fill up, it flows over to magazine shows and so on. It doesn't matter that the imminent threat is still hypothetical, if it bumps the s**t storm du jour from the front page, all the better.

The speed with which mass vaccinations of entire countries was called for sounds like a good way for big pharma to get some no bid contracts of their own too...

It could turn out that by new year's, there'll barely be a mention of bird flu, however, if say the Olympics theory mentioned here occured and it was an engineered event;

Programe the virus to delay it's signs so if you get it today, it's a weeks before you even notice any affects and bamb! You've just spread a virus around the world and it won't start being reported until after the Olympics when most people have already flown home.

indeed, the people who are initially exposed may not even get sick or show symptoms, but the people exposed to them get sick. If it was a programmed virus, couldn't it be programmed so you instead have a bunch of typhoid Mary's walking around, possibly infecting people for months? Just imagine, your Olympic hero comes to your town, shakes hands, lotsa backslappin', run's around with the kids for a little bit, and then weeks later, people are dropping like flies. Scary stuff, especially since the Commonwealth Games are in my home town next year.

Originally posted by QuietSoul
Martial Law will be enacted, and President Skull & Bones will reign much longer then desired.

Exactly. I have put forth a similar theory. The main reason being so that the current administration could maintain its control through 2006 and even 2008. Ultimately to remain in the Middle East and keep our attention on fear instead of what we're doing over there.

The idea of infesting the birds' food supply would certainly explain why they all die as one. Well done!

My theory includes the suspicion that the reason the federal response to Katrina was so slow and incompetent, is so that we would embrace its response to the 'super-flu' outbreak.

Bush to Unveil Super-Flu Strategy

The Bush administration, battered by criticism over its hurricane response, is getting the nation prepared for a possible travel ban and other restrictions in the event of a worldwide flu outbreak.

Wonder what the 'other restrictions' are...

Hoping to spur the long-awaited pandemic plan, the Senate last week passed $8 billion in emergency funding for Bush to spend on the preparations.

Phamaceutical companies are just drooling over this...

And i have said many times before, one of the goals is a police state and NO elections in 2008 and more Bush. Which equals "dictatorship"

Laugh if you want, but i dont see how we're going to get rid of this particular administration of ghouls.

* I have a question*

They, the elites are pushing for eliminating, half of the population. Now, please tell me why all this anti-abortion crap. This is something i would like to have an answer for, since i cant figure it out. Just give me a response that makes sense and i'll be happy.

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Originally posted by dgtempe
* I have a question*

They, the elites are pushing for eliminating, half of the population. Now, please tell me why all this anti-abortion crap.

I have a theory about that, too.

I think they know that nothing will come of their anti-abortion posturing. And that's all it is. Posturing. However, taking the stance of the 'moral high ground' makes them appear to be morally superior, therefore gaining support from all the anti-abortionist populace.

So, even though abortion won't be outlawed, if they appear to be fighting for the 'right', good, God, home and apple pie, their support base will rally 'round them no matter what they do. Their loyal fans will stick with them right through the Patriot Act IV and beyond.

We see it all the time around here. People make excuses for everything the administration does because they are a loyal following, based on several issues, anti-abortion being one of the strongest.

Does that make sense?

I apologize for the off-topic nature, but I think it really does all funnel into the same theory of the current and future reign.

I had a thought about avian flu last night that I think applys to the wonderful new skunk wroks section.

The flu shot seems to be more popular due to the avian flu scare dispite the fact that the flu shot cannot fight this strain. And this article was interesting to me.
UIHC sets flu-shot record.

A drill team of medical professionals - testing emergency response to potential flu pandemics - delivered more than 1,000 flu shots to the UI Hospitals and Clinics employees in less than 24 hours, setting a hospital record.

In total, 1,164 people were inoculated for the flu between Oct. 26 and 27. The drill continued until midnight Monday by vaccinating health-care workers in their respective work areas.

It seems like they are preparing for a run on the flu shot when we all freak out after they find the avian flu in north america.

Now for the speculation....

Do you think that the flu shot or tamiflu could contain some sort of trigger mechinisim that will make the H5N1 (or some other similar pandemic flu) more viralent and deadly?
Certianly if the flu hits us hard martial law will be declaired and there will be a "forced" inocculation creating an even higher death toll.

Originally posted by Halfofone
Do you think that the flu shot or tamiflu could contain some sort of trigger mechinisim that will make the H5N1 (or some other similar pandemic flu) more viralent and deadly?
Certianly if the flu hits us hard martial law will be declaired and there will be a "forced" inocculation creating an even higher death toll.

I'm not sure about Tamiflu containing a trigger, but the recent amendment passed recently that protect vaccine makers from "ill effects" seems worthy of discussion. We've been giving vaccines out for decades now, but all of a sudden, we need to protect Big Pharmacy from lawsuits or penalties if they screw up a vaccine?

What I envision happening is that once this pandemic turns into a epidemic, we'll be forced, like you said, to take vaccines. And just like the 1918 flu epidemic, the flu shots will cause the flu just as much as it will protect from it.

I think the timing of the MSM reports on bird flu were very suspect.
I ordered my own personal supply of Tamiflu back when this was only "conspiracy theorist" territory (thank you ATS!!)
I think CBS, ABC, NBC, BBC, etc waited to really lay into the bird flu story until the probability of the masses purchasing Tamiflu had dried up. This would help lead to more panic/instability.

How about this for a theory. You don't need hundreds of thousands of people dying in the US for there to be an absolute meltdown. The first day that news media report that the flu is going H2H and that there are 3 cases in quarantine at a major US city airport it will be all over.

People will stop going to work, school for fear of exposure.
Supermarkets will get a run on all of their rice, beans, canned goods, etc.
There will be very few people going in to work to keep our economy going.
Emergency measures will be put into place because once the grocery stores dry up there will be civil unrest.
It is the perfect NWO/Illuminati takeover situation.
-Rioters across the US
-People starving in major metro areas
-Airlifted aid to downtown LA, Chicago, Detroit, Miami, New York
-Armed bandits going door to door looking for food/Tamiflu

I hope to God I'm wrong about this

Well the holocaust wasnot able to be repeated so I guess they have come up with a new method for sorting out the population....immunize those who are worthy, pretend to immunize those that arent...they all die you get their loot and control without the extra headache...

The Avian Flu hysteria on the news has made my Grandpa recall something that happened a long time ago. He said that around WWI there was a massive flu pandemic. It killed 40 million people. He said that in his town alone, he would see ten new coffins a day.

What scared me the most is that he said it was also carried by birds.

I decided to look it up for myself, and I found some interesting information.


coldflu.about.com...

Yes what you are talking of is the Spanish Flu epidemic of 1918 which is covered on the board in the bird flu section if you wish to have a look.

Swine flu is very much linked to birds also. Maybe that's the newest development in the biological warefare department. To be honest I'm not really suure about the Swine flu. It wouldn't surprise me if it was made up to take people's minds off of other problems. No offence to anyone I'm not saying that it's a lie for definate, just that I'm not too convinced by it.

The old bird flu came and went pretty quick. If it was something to do with mass destruction of some kind it wasn't greatly effective!

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