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Originally posted by wecomeinpeace
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
[edit on 2005-10-28 by wecomeinpeace]
Originally posted by Zipdot
Interesting. Are you aware of any other figures like Newton and Saunier that experienced such apparent revelations? How was Newton subjected to the knowledge?
Zip
Originally posted by GameSetMatch
Valhall,
This topic have any thing to do with this "secret"? Im kinda confused...
www.whatisthesecret.tv... watch the trailer and you will see what I mean...
The above website is found here from this thread: www.belowtopsecret.com...
Originally posted by Valhall
Your scriptural choice could not have been more appropriate wcip. Here is what concerns me....
This "secret" is something that I cannot allow myself to trivialize...
Newton was exposed to something that changed him instantly...
Saunier was made privy to something that almost instantly changed him...
It is something that can deceive the very elect.
Originally posted by Valhall
Originally posted by mrmonsoon
Val, if I remember my christiany correctly, is not Jesus often symbolized as the fish?
I see it on cars all over the place.
Well, if that is the case, could not the impregnating of mary from the sea represent Jesus, without directly saying so?
Saying so, might have branded someone a heritic and got them killed.
Right! Now, the issue here is...there is no issue. Think about it. It makes no difference whatsoever to the scriptural message of Christ's life if he in fact married and had a child. So why have christian believers been taught for centuries that to imply he COULD have been married or had children is something blasphemous or heretical? It is a man-made heresy. What would be the reason for creating a heresy that does not exist scripturally? It's a very interesting thought experiment imho.
Originally posted by wecomeinpeace
Does anybody know what Hebrew or Greek term the word "image" was translated from, and what the root meanings are?
[edit on 2005-10-28 by wecomeinpeace]
In Gen 1:26,27, the truth is declared that God created man in His own "image" (tselem), after His "likeness" (demuth). The two ideas denote the same thing--resemblance to God. The like conception of man, tacit or avowed, underlies all revelation. It is given in Gen 9:6 as the ground of the prohibition of the shedding of man's blood; is echoed in Ps 8; is reiterated frequently in the New Testament (1 Cor 11:7; Eph 4:24; Col 3:10; Isa 3:9)
Originally posted by Valhall
And then there is the theory that maintains the crucifixion, but says that Peter (I believe it was Peter) ferried Mary and the child off to the south of France (the Languedoc) and that Mary was idolized resulting in the Cult of the Black Madonna.
Originally posted by Count
It was Joseph of Arimathea (sp?) if my memory serves correctly. I have lots of books about this subject at home, but unfortunately I'm not at home I'll try to look something up for tomorrow, this is a very interesting topic!
Originally posted by wecomeinpeace
What is this "image"? Is it literally an image or a likeness, such that we look like God,, and in the end times people will be forced to worship a statue or a picture of the Beast? Somehow I doubt it. More likely it is an allegorical reference to something which is beyond our understanding; something which may be revealed as this "secret" of the Templars/the Egyptians/the Babylonians/whatever...