Leviathan....He's definetly for real

Originally posted by �any
Why not just say it's Cthulhu and be done with it?

Cthulhu, Cthulhu, Cthulhu!

Originally posted by �any
Why not just say it's Cthulhu and be done with it?

Yeah, why not? Maybe Lovecraft wasn't crazy at all.

Originally posted by soothsayer

Originally posted by �any
Why not just say it's Cthulhu and be done with it?

Cthulhu, Cthulhu, Cthulhu!

CTHULHU FHTAGN!






Edit: Argh, stupid #ing crappily coded piece of crap that won't accept #ing BBcode that SHOULD #ing bastard work arse!

[Edited on 27-9-2003 by �any]

It sure dosn't sound like Cthulhu to me, at least the descriptions arn't to similar. Isn't Cthulhu some huge, huge human/octepus/dragon hybride with bat wings and claws on his feet?

Originally posted by AntiSystem
It sure dosn't sound like Cthulhu to me, at least the descriptions arn't to similar. Isn't Cthulhu some huge, huge human/octepus/dragon hybride with bat wings and claws on his feet?

Heheh, seriously, I was joking.

It's Shub'niggurath, not Cthulhu...

In the books I've read, it wouldn't be Cthulhu. As stated earlier, the appearance is all wrong.

(Then again, if God can assume different shapes, why not a Great Old One?)

Besides, against the Cthulhu idea, wasn't R'ylea (?) supposed to have been in the Pacific? The Chinese have an interesting character/ letter for the word dragon or typhoon or something... a stylized head with tentacles.

No, Leviathan definitly wasn't Cthulhu. Maybe an older, ancient Dagon?

Using text from the Bible to prove somthing true is about the same a using a comic book. They both take place in real place but, niether one is a factual account of the events that took place there. They're stories. Not true.

The Bible cannot be taken as a literal text, because of its age; many words have changed their meaning since it was written... but the overall context would be the same.

Take for example the Odyssey. For many centuries, it was regarded as pure fiction, until some archeologist used it as a road map to find the city of Troy... exactly where the book said it was.

I am not sure what exactly the leviathon was or is. It could have been a machine made from atlantians. Like on the movie Atlantis. I mean you never know, now do you? Are you all with me on the thought that we should use some of the space exploration money to clean the world and to repair and explore it.

I've figured this out.

Leviathan is the Kundalini serpent.
Leviathan means coiled, Kundalini means coiling.
There are 7 chakra points which could be seen as the 7 heads of Leviathan.
The Kundalini is a very firey energy.

What I take this to mean is that at some time in the past, the teaching of Kundalini Yoga (or serpent union) was suppressed.
Maybe somebody will try to suppress the techings again, if it scared somebody enough to try and kill it off then it must have some power.


Hmm.

I say its a dinosaur. God destroyed the leviathan, just as he destroyed the dinosaurs. Also the bible speaks metaphoricly allot, the fire breathing could mean something else.

Originally posted by jabb
...the fire breathing could mean something else.

Such as?
If the Bible said (s)he/it breathed fire, it was was breathing fire.
I kind of forgot about this thread, however, I still stand firm.
Leviathan is real.
Noone has disprove him yet, just seek talking about Moby Dick...

- Tass

Originally posted by Loki
Did anyone else read this and say dinosaur? Because that is what was meant by this, according to several scholars.

A little while back, I was doing some research for a paper and Leviathan came up. I consulted 3 different pastors concerning the christian explanation for dinosaurs and each one referred to this creature. One even noted that there were dinosaurs on the ark. hmm well, ok, whatever.
I finally settled on Dragon.

Peace,
BG

Man, that ark keeps getting biger by the day...

Originally posted by Tassadar
There is a dragon in the Bible, but, supposedl, God killed him (that sucks)...
Here it is...

Job 41
1 "Can you pull in the leviathan [1] with a fishhook
or tie down his tongue with a rope?
2 Can you put a cord through his nose
or pierce his jaw with a hook?
3 Will he keep begging you for mercy?
Will he speak to you with gentle words?
4 Will he make an agreement with you
for you to take him as your slave for life?
5 Can you make a pet of him like a bird
or put him on a leash for your girls?
6 Will traders barter for him?
Will they divide him up among the merchants?
7 Can you fill his hide with harpoons
or his head with fishing spears?
8 If you lay a hand on him,
you will remember the struggle and never do it again!
9 Any hope of subduing him is false;
the mere sight of him is overpowering.
10 No one is fierce enough to rouse him.
Who then is able to stand against me?
11 Who has a claim against me that I must pay?
Everything under heaven belongs to me.

12 "I will not fail to speak of his limbs,
his strength and his graceful form.
13 Who can strip off his outer coat?
Who would approach him with a bridle?
14 Who dares open the doors of his mouth,
ringed about with his fearsome teeth?
15 His back has [2] rows of shields
tightly sealed together;
16 each is so close to the next
that no air can pass between.
17 They are joined fast to one another;
they cling together and cannot be parted.
18 His snorting throws out flashes of light;
his eyes are like the rays of dawn.
19 Firebrands stream from his mouth;
sparks of fire shoot out.
20 Smoke pours from his nostrils
as from a boiling pot over a fire of reeds.
21 His breath sets coals ablaze,
and flames dart from his mouth.
22 Strength resides in his neck;
dismay goes before him.
23 The folds of his flesh are tightly joined;
they are firm and immovable.
24 His chest is hard as rock,
hard as a lower millstone.
25 When he rises up, the mighty are terrified;
they retreat before his thrashing.
26 The sword that reaches him has no effect,
nor does the spear or the dart or the javelin.
27 Iron he treats like straw
and bronze like rotten wood.
28 Arrows do not make him flee;
slingstones are like chaff to him.
29 A club seems to him but a piece of straw;
he laughs at the rattling of the lance.
30 His undersides are jagged potsherds,
leaving a trail in the mud like a threshing sledge.
31 He makes the depths churn like a boiling caldron
and stirs up the sea like a pot of ointment.
32 Behind him he leaves a glistening wake;
one would think the deep had white hair.
33 Nothing on earth is his equal-
a creature without fear.
34 He looks down on all that are haughty;
he is king over all that are proud."


Straight out of the word of the Lord himself..
- Tassadar

What bible is this???

I haven't seen or heard of this in the ol' Holy Bible in the new or old testament ? ?

ol' Testament mate, NIV version.
There are several screwed up translations, ex. New World (Jehovah's Witnessess, which changes every ten years or so), the Latter-Day Saints Version...

Job is a book in the Old Testament, go look it up.
Cheers to you,
- Tass

Originally posted by Tassadar
ol' Testament mate, NIV version.
There are several screwed up translations, ex. New World (Jehovah's Witnessess, which changes every ten years or so), the Latter-Day Saints Version...

Job is a book in the Old Testament, go look it up.
Cheers to you,
- Tass

Great for the response..Thanks..

I wanted to call my first son (when I have one) Leviathan, thought it sounded cool. Changed my mind after I found out what the bible said of Leviathan.

Isaiah 27:1
In that day the LORD with His severe sword, great and strong, will punish Leviathan the fleeing serpent, Leviathan that twisted serpent; and He will slay the reptile that is in the sea.
(NKJ)





[Edited on 24-10-2003 by StationsCreation]

the same creature people call reptilian aliens...
the old jews called seraphim...
and the new age people call 4th dimensional entities...

in the end they do exist there is too much historical proof of that...

and the only way to slay it is through no-fear/love for ones neighbor...

Why do you assume that breathing "fire" was impossible? Are you saying there are no living animals that project noxious or flammable chemicals? The skunk, or more importantly, the bombardier beetle? Come on, peeps. Every inflated story or legend has a basis in the truth. Why do you think drawings of "dragons" show them breathing fire? Conclusion: some dragons spewed SOMETHING out of their mouths.