Another one from the bloodline?

A young politician named David Cameron has come from nowhere to become the favourite to win the leadership of the conservative party here in the UK.

Out of the four candidates who initially stood, the 'big beast' Ken Clarke, who has held every position in government except Prime Minister, has been knocked out and the starting favourite, David Davis has said that he will concede to Mr Cameron if he comes second in the next round.

The interesting thing about Mr Cameron is that he is a descendant of Henry VIII. I've read a bit about US presidents and their royal connections (33 out of 42 from the royal bloodline? not sure if that's right), a win for Mr Cameron could well mean the royal bloodlines being in power in two of the most powerful western nations.

Is this just coincidence or am I crazy?

Any chance you give us a link that displays his family history?

I don't believe in many coincidences.

Power is not something easily given up, and I don't think those who have been in power intend on giving it up.

Originally posted by Chris McGee
a win for Mr Cameron could well mean the royal bloodlines being in power in two of the most powerful western nations.

Is this just coincidence or am I crazy?

Except he won't actually be in power, he'll be leader of the Conservative party. He will have to beat Gordon Brown in the next election to be leader of the country, something he is certainly not guaranteed to do. Though most pundits think he has a better chance (if he makes it to Conservative leader) than recent Tory leaders.

The Tories have traditionally drawn their leaders and senior members from the upper class "old money" families such as Cameron's. However their last 5 leaders (Thatcher, Major, Hague, Smith and Howard) have all come from relatively humble beginnings. They all attended state run schools, unlike "man of the people" Blair, who attended the very expensive Fettes school, which is the Scottish equivalent of Eton (which Cameron attended).

Like TC says, people in power like to pass that power to the children and so on. This is how it has always been. However I don't see anything to do with the so called "NWO" here.

Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
I don't believe in many coincidences.

Power is not something easily given up, and I don't think those who have been in power intend on giving it up.

i would have to agree with you there Mr.Crowne.

Once a group get power, they will do anything to keep it. Like the Queens and Kings of Europe, they created bloodlines to keep their Line of power

I couldn't find a family history for him, sorry, Odium.

I just found this interesting because he's come from nowhere to defeat some real heavy hitters in the conservative party. With Blair resigning this is the best chance the tories have to get labour out of power. He seems to have a lot of media support aswell.

He hasn't really come out of nowhere, he has been working his way up the Conserative party hierarchy for nearly 20 years now, he wrote the last party manifesto and he is currently Shadow Education Secretary.

What exactly is the conspiricy meant to be here anyway?

Is he a male line descendant of King Henry or is he merely on of thousands of people that can connect their line to him?

If you think about it, each generation that you go back, the number of ancestors doubles. One generation back is your two parents, the next, your four grandparents, then their 8 parents, then 16, then 32, 64, etc etc. Before long you get to radically high numbers, and before long you can connect anyone to anyone.

Originally posted by Chris McGee
I just found this interesting because he's come from nowhere to defeat some real heavy hitters in the conservative party. With Blair resigning this is the best chance the tories have to get labour out of power. He seems to have a lot of media support aswell.

Only because he is a good public speaker, listen to the others...they were awful. His largest rival is so boring, he had people sleeping because of his voice...

IMO this whole bloodline thing, as Nygdan has suggested, is a red herring. There are a number of sites that attempt to sensationalize the relationships between various world leaders, one of which I discussed previously here.

The bottom line is that through the generations, we are all related and any special blood introduced into the human race as recently as 1000 years ago would now be spread across a large number of people

Originally posted by Chris McGee
The interesting thing about Mr Cameron is that he is a descendant of Henry VIII.

I couldn't find a family history for him, sorry, Odium.

Chris - I'm interested where this information came from, because Henry VIII had no (legitimate) grandchildren; as Edward, Mary and Elizabeth all died childless.

Do you think someone's pulling your leg?

Originally posted by Trinityman
Chris - I'm interested where this information came from, because Henry VIII had no (legitimate) grandchildren; as Edward, Mary and Elizabeth all died childless.

Do you think someone's pulling your leg?

There was an error in my original post, it was Henry VII, not Henry VIII.

Let's see...according to my family tree file (I'm descended from the Plantagenets so the Tudors would be cousins), Henry VII had 7 children (that I know of). Margaret, Henry VIII, Arthur, Elizabeth, Mary, Edmund, and Katherine.

This guy descended from Edmund or Arthur? I could probably search Rootsweb.

And by "that bloodline," you mean Merovingian? Some of us are just peasants.

You don't have to be a well know person in the limelight to be part of a "Bloodline". A person could very well be born into it and just decide to not be a part or say anything that would imcriminate yourself. You could be living right next door to one and not even know it. Just always be aware and keep your ears and eyes open. Just some food for the mind.
Those that I have heard of though, just seem to marry into it sometimes unknowingly too. Sometimes it just comes down from earlier generations and then dwendles to nothing. That is most of the time the case at hand.

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Made me think of how Bush and Kerry both are as well. Than I saw this:

July 6, 1946 Birth of George Bush

July 6, 1483 - Richard III is crowned king of England.
July 6, 1854 - In Jackson, Michigan, the first convention of the U.S. Republican Party is held.
July 6, 1785 - The dollar is unanimously chosen as the monetary unit for the United States.

Deaths
July 6, 1189 - King Henry II of England (b. 1133)
July 6, 1553 - King Edward VI of England (b. 1537)

Originally posted by Chris McGee


Is this just coincidence or am I crazy?

now his DOB 7/6/1946 7+6+1+9+4+6=33 :z 3+3=6 :z
7+6+1946=1959 1+9+5+9=24 2+4=6 :z



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Heh--I found out about my ancestry only last year. Three out of four of my great-grandparents on my mother's side were descended from Henry I that I know of. Two of them were my grandfather's parents.

A Spencer was a common ancestor for me, George Washington, and Princess Di.

Here's an interesting claim I heard on a History channel doc: 1 in 4 men are descended or related to Genghis Khan. Seem's amazing to me....

I wouldn't doubt it.

I'm descended from Attila the Hun, through one of Charlemagne's wives--that was her ancestor.

I do not, however, believe that Jesus was one of my ancestors.

All people are going to be related to one another, especially when you start going further and further in time, and especially when you start counting cousins and the like.

I agree, Nygdan. My son is also my cousin...many times over!

Of course, my ancestors intermarried A LOT.

Originally posted by Nakash
Here's an interesting claim I heard on a History channel doc: 1 in 4 men are descended or related to Genghis Khan. Seem's amazing to me....

msnbc.msn.com...
I read recently about 16 million men are decendants of ghengis, and 3 million Irish are decendants of Niall of the Nine Hostages

only the powerful could have large families in the 500's, so its not surprising their genes are passed on more than other. I wonder if King Niall of the Nine Hostages liked his ale

as a side note ;
there was a news item this week that the rockefellers and rothschilds are backing Willam Weld for governor of NY. Maybe they are positioning him for future US Pres ? Man, talk about your connected blue bloods



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