New Organization, New faith

How many of you feel the desire to revolt or cast of the bonds of
the reality we are surrounded by. It is rather impositional isn't it?
How do you allow yourselves to cater the whims of people who make the rules we know are inane? If you answer this correctly in a U2U then I will further my explanation of what we have planned...

"We"?




And why bother with a U2U?
If it's that good we should all be allowed to see it.
Or are you afraid of having your thoughts scoffed at?

Now friends, would you give a lighter to a child. I don't know who
anyone here really is. Why would I openly blast out every little thing thought? I am not saying the people on ATS are children but
some visitors are of higher and lower levels of awareness. I will
not spell out utopian socialism and such to open masses as I will
not be responsible for anarchy. That is not the way to peace. When people realize that it is their right to create themselves as
they wish, as they have a right to true happiness, one must also
consider that forcing out words on everyone is stupid.

I will not teach nor will our organization, all the world for that as even a thought is also stupid. We are not that arrogant as to think it is our right or that we even can do such a thing as there are many in the world smarter than I, my organization and our affiliated kind of thinkers. that being said I will not force feed our concepts to those who would not care.

This is NOT because we care about having to defend ourselves. We believe in what we are for and some would die to preserve our ways of thinking. It is so we can demographically determine our function and we know that those in the know or those who WANT to know more about us will be the responders. We have the right to screen who we share our beliefs with. Those who do not understand by choice are different than those who cannot by lack of ability to think in such a way.

Some see in pictures and some do not. Or maybe we all do and it comes down to what you CHOOSE to apply your mind to. We will
not spend a million hours defending ourselves to those who write
in their f**k yous. You say why not ignore them. If they read what we write it is in their heads whether they like it or not and it would then be our responsibility to give them a reason for the things they read. It is also because we have respect for all human
beings in equality. Sure we all have variated differences in appearance, status, physiology, etc., etc. Those are perceptions
based on random assumption.

Our friends here believe that those who are meant to know shall and that is: We all ARE the same when we look to the soul of a human being. Do you want to know all of my weaknesses, they are the same as yours if you are talking about being a sentient race. When you hear the word human being with no reference to race, gender, appearance, status, class, intelligence, belief, etc., just based on the word human beings, what but yourself inside do you look towards for an answer to what a human being is.

Further, what would one say if they met extra-terrestrial intelligence that requested said person to explain what it is to be human? Now, we are terrribly sorry if you who attack our views have to feel the emotions that we did NOT intend to generate. Know that YOU as an individual are responsible for management of your own feelings.

Who among all us in this world is perfect? No one. Who is in total control of their feelings, no one. Emotion is a gift when we appreciate. It is a negative when not and there are people so deadened and hurt inside that they commit suicide or harm others. What right does a person have to become angry at another to satisfy a need for wrath when someone angers them. We believe that it is a strength to be comfortable enough with oneself to not waste the time to subjugate themselves to this pain.

If you allow another, who you know cannot change your own views or beliefs, to force you to defend yourself for their ego (for their own reasons they wish to fight rather than communicate) rather than a justifiable question as to reason, then you do not believe what you are saying do you? You are justifying to self when to another. I write this not to justify self doubts from within our group, we write this because circumstance and need for clarification says:

They need to know we are passionate and real and believe me, none of us, not a one has ever been paid for giving their time to help those who do not see, see better. This is why people get eyeglasses, rather than go blind. But could you get eyeglasses without a provider of a perscription?

Time and population with a coordinate system has brought humanity this far. Now a time faces us where people who are innocent and good, with positive destinies are in jeopardy of being destroyed. Oppressors need to oppress to fill what they lack, power. Power is illusion they cannot take away your soul, spirit, heart or mind. We desire to live for joyousness, peace and to learn greater appreciation for the world we live in.

The meek shall inherit the Earth and the meek have never been warriors so imagine how hard the paradox is: How do you show
love to those who reject it in favour of hate? How do you fight oppression when you are opposed to fighting? Balance.

Our organization is against violence, propaganda, self indulgence at the expense of others and judgement. If one considers the requirements any human being must, in their own mind must
confront to reach the mastery required to have the peace of
mediatation in a world that is fairly predicatable when you know
everyone is capable of that which they believe, then it is apparent
that the only way to make a difference is passive aggression then
they will see.

Jesus Christ, Mohammed, Goutama Siddhartha, Martin Luther King, Mother Theresa and so many unknown human beings who now know heaven and we cannot know now, all gave
their lives, (ironic that most were executed by those who benefitted by the mass ignorance they supported) WHY? They were born to do what they did and they all cared THAT MUCH in their hearts for the value of human life that they were willing to throw away the easier simplicities offered by feeding ego when they knew what they could accomplish?

Speculation is curiosity, opinion is when it is shared. But to not appreciate the gift of sentience, or see it AS A GIFT, is to either be naive or arrogant. We could have been born all as beasts and bugs, but then we wouldn't be living as we do or care as egos do would we? Thank You.

We hope that this has made clear our sincere desire to change. It is not the world that is in need of change as God made
it perfect, it is our attitudes inside we require work on and as God
made us too then how can one give up and allow themselves to
be as best they can. Humankind just needs to know that it is
loved. Cursing existence is like telling one's parent they are at fault for them being. That is as unfair as cursing God, who probably only ever wanted as a good parent the best and most
joyous existence for its children. With love to all who care to know
love.

We have approval as by Amnesty International (We are registed by but are not affiliated. We give our lives away for humankind. If we all did this, who would be left to hate and who would be left unloved?

Does everyone always have to have everything spelled out so simply? Where's the art in it?

"Time and population with a coordinate system has brought humanity this far. Now a time faces us where people who are innocent and good, with positive destinies are in jeopardy of being destroyed. Oppressors need to oppress to fill what they lack, power. Power is illusion they cannot take away your soul, spirit, heart or mind. We desire to live for joyousness, peace and to learn greater appreciation for the world we live in. ".........."Our organization is against violence, propaganda, self indulgence at the expense of others and judgement......"

I'm for it. Think about the kids that have to live in this new world. How are they coping with it all. With learning technology before they're old enough to walk?




[Edited on 9/14/2003 by SamaraMorgueAnn]

I think this world needs a new order, new faith.
Society have been clashing for too long, and its time we rejoice and construct a New World Order.
Deep

Lucifer, I have seen in my minds eye the organization you speak of. Yes, yes, peace be with us all, and all that. I know your group truly belive in what you have shared with us (me). I have felt the love first hand by your group. And the basic doctrine is something very close to my own heart. I know who your group, ARE, and I can accept them for, who they are, and what they believe in. But, I can�t accept �running away� down the rabbit�s hole.

My life is now committed to fighting the evil mankind is facing. I will not run away, even though I know it would be a utopia with a long life. I will not become a traitor to humanity, all of humanity! I will stand and fight, and if need be, give my life.

Now, I challenge you, and your organization, to stand by my side. It is said that there is a time and place for everything. And that time is now. Stand up and be counted, in The True God�s eyes. What is your group truly made of?

The coming war will engulf the ENTIRE globe. Your efforts will be in vein! I am truly sorry for that.

There is still time for your group to decide to help and overt bloodshed. And for the first time in history, your group will be recognized for there true greatness.

It is written that in the end times people will disappear, let us write the final chapter.

ASE

looks like you're in for a bit of competition lucifer. I have a friend who has plans on creating a new utopia.

But personally, I believe it's almost impossible at our current level. We are still too busy killing each other over our beliefs to start a perfect society.

any revolt in the US would be brutilay crushed with out mercy.

Originally posted by DiscoFever
looks like you're in for a bit of competition lucifer. I have a friend who has plans on creating a new utopia.

But personally, I believe it's almost impossible at our current level. We are still too busy killing each other over our beliefs to start a perfect society.

I think whoEVER would like to start, work go and do make a better society. All it takes is a little bit of effort and squash your fears along the way ok?

Originally posted by SamaraMorgueAnn
I think whoEVER would like to start, work go and do make a better society. All it takes is a little bit of effort and squash your fears along the way ok?

I guess you're right, but people fear change. But inorder to get rid of your fear, you need to change. So you're stuck in this loop

ok, i don't think i'm making sense anymore...

Ladies and gentlemen who have come to this post and read the conditionals have honored myself, my associates and our team which happens to be the rest of humankind. I will re-iterate the
basics. If you are interested in changing who you are in this lifetime, or you are an 'evolved' member of the human race(evolved is the term I use to pick the filthy animals like Dahmer and Olson out our minds-murderers, greedy sinners...)

So yeah the only real reason I was set up and that white dot means whatever it does to you out there is because I chose my pathand lucky for me I decided I was good at a young age. Don't you decent people find that others in the world are in on something? They are: reality. We are the anomoly here in this realm. I would like to have all applicants who need time or more info to U2U myself here and I will let you know. Also folks, the poll on the world of choice is not exclusive anymore to this site but we really need your help developing our own psychological standpoints as I personally cold. Gimme a U2U folks if you want .

Originally posted by Lucifer
Ladies and gentlemen who have come to this post and read the conditionals have honored myself, my associates and our team which happens to be the rest of humankind. I will re-iterate the
lly cold. Gimme a U2U folks if you want .

love your signature man. totally appropriate!

Lucifer,

It seems to me that in a largely Christian population (meaning the religions here on ATS and global) Lucifer may not be the most appropriate name to use when trying to con others into joining your "utopian" society.

Granted, the religious backgrounds on ATS and global vary, and not all here are Christian, however, being as from the threads I have seen those of more Christian faith are higher in numbers, you should probably have used a different name.

You seem to have "ideals" based on many that I have heard. If so many were so eager to start these utopian societies, it's a shame we still have none thriving. There are so many out there that have the correct ideals, but, so few willing to actually put them to the test.

It seems to me that the most effective way to make a peaceful change for the better in society would be to generate more awareness among "the unknowing masses" of the extent & depth that the "elitist classes" have used to manipulate us all...And to get people to work together to let those "elitists" know that we're not going to put up with their fear-mongering & social engineering any more.

Spread information & awareness...People *are* beginning to wake up but I fear that they're not waking up in large enough numbers or quickly enough to be able to make a difference. Crunch time is comming & there's still too many who ignore the warning signs.

Once society has been freed, there must also be made an awareness on how the human race will be able to work together as a whole to clean up the mess of this planet that the elitists made of it. It *must* be remembered that this world is the only Home we have & it's currently on the verge of changing its environment into something that will no longer support the human race. If that happens, we will *all* die. technology *can* be modified to be compatable to the environment & still provide for our human needs...But the elitist classes only saw self-agrandizement & personal profit with technology & the plant's ecology has nearly gotten out of hand.

Probably the most important thing that people must become aware of is that with the power of freedom, it's a power that *must* be used with responsibility...Responsibility to take the consequences of the effect your actions & words have upon other human beings. It also includes the responsibility to guard their freedom so that "elitists" cannot take freedom away from us again. Freedom *must* be constantly guarded, else there will be someone waiting to take advantadge of the crack in your armor.

I'm waiting for the return of Christ, until then I have to tolerate this vile existance.

...And if Christ doesn't show up within your lifetime, what are you going to do with the rest of your life to avoid wasting it, hmmmmm?.....