Punching bag, NOPD style

Ok, just how bad can a 64 year old drunk be that the cops have to punch him in the head - repeatedly.
You gotta love the way the cop on the horse tried to block the video and how the other thug in uniform rousted the reporter.

aolsvc.news.aol.com...

This type of case I'm more of a 50-50.

You'd see the guy as a perfectly harmless person but you never know what they really might be doing or have done. In such cases, sometimes the police are just trying to be cautious or over cautious in this case.

I have seen a clip of a old mad guy, a vietnam veteran, being stop by the police on a road. The old guy argues with the policeman and the policeman tries to handle the situation without any use of force but you what the old guy did? He went to his car and whip out an AK47 and start shooting at the policeman.

The policeman didn't even had a chance to shoot and stop the old guy. I don't know whether the policeman died or not. The last words of his is "gun down..arghhhh" and silence as the old guy continues shooting into the windshield of the police patrol car and the video camera mounted in it before leaving the scene in his car.

I'll try to find the link if I can.

Hmmm, the NOLA police department has hardly distinquished itself IMHO. The whole city needs a top down house cleaning. :shk:

Originally posted by Heartagram
...I have seen a clip of a old mad guy, a vietnam veteran, being stop by the police on a road. The old guy argues with the policeman and the policeman tries to handle the situation without any use of force but you what the old guy did? He went to his car and whip out an AK47 and start shooting at the policeman...

So ya saying the cops should beat everybody up? You know, just in case they have an AK47 tucked away somewhere?

There is NO justification for a cop to beat the crapola out of someone unless they need to defend themsleves.
The cop in this case was not in any danger from the old guy.
If we keep trying to find ways to justify how the authorities are treating our citizens then the problem will get just worse.

Since when were cops allowed to act as judge, jurry and executioner?

[edit on 10/10/2005 by ANOK]

What right did the cop have to grab the reporter and manhandle him the way he did?

They are allowed to film and report the issue due to freedom of press. I'ld say the reporter has a pretty good argument to back his case of being attacked.

As for the old man even if he did resist arrest he had stopped resisting long before the last punches were trown and blood starting to ouze from his head.

Are the cops over stressed? Possibly but that should not be even considered as a argument if I get stressed and beat the crap out of some one it's still a crime.

Looks like police brutality to me open and shut.
Raist

If 3 young officers need to beat the crap out of a 64 y/o drunk to subdue him they're in the wrong business. Clearly they lack the ability required of a professional law enforcement officer if 3 men can't efficiently take down and restrain a drunk old man. And to do it in public? STOOPID!

What will they do next, get jobs at a daycare center and body slam 3 year olds for taking an extra cookie at lunch?

The Answer to Police Brutality is Brutality on Police!

You have to wonder, where were the other citizens? Anyone want to take a guess at what Patrick Henry's response would have been?

The pictures are very damaging, and to look at the finished product in a pool of his own blood can tell a lot of stories.

I didn't see any of the people that did the arresting bloody or injured, just the old man.

Sorry but something on the pictures didn't look right, smells and looks like an over kill by the police.

A cop should NEVER punch anyone in the face. That is WRONG.

I said this in another thread but I'll repeat it here since the other one looks to be dead.

Ok, is it just me or did the man not start "resisting" until that one officer started to wail on the back of his head? Watch the first few seconds of the video.

As for the guy at the end who pushed the tv producer against the car....that was way out of line. Being in NO "six weeks trying to survive" doesn't give you the right to act like a nazi.

White cops excessively beating a black suspect. What's new? Or is it the novelty that it happened in a city that is recovering from a devastating hurricane?

police in NO looting
police in NO deserting
police in NO whaling on senior citizens

they must be so proud. Maybe the nat'l guard comes in to restore order ?


I'm sure the excuse will be stress, some sort of syndrome.

curme, did notice the color of ALL the cops? It has nothing to do with color. The attitude of superiority over the citizen with no regard to constitutionally-protected rights (screw the stupid congressionally made "civil" rights, I'm talking about the ones God gave that man).

-PS-
Just to point it out one more time, all the cops involved knew what they were doing, from the boxers to the horse cop to the Nazi-reporter-controller. Why are they going to be punished? Why is the department taking action? Because they were CAUGHT! When the cops work in concert like that, you can rest assured this is no spontaneous act, and it isn't due to stress of the storm; this is business as usual.

[edit on 10-10-2005 by Thomas Crowne]

The best way to avoid being beaten up by cops is to conduct yourself in a creditable manner. Resisting arrest is stupidity personified. I have plenty of experience with NO cops. They're tough because they have to be. I think the punches to the head were over the line, but the blame lies with the citizen who resisted. That's why we have the courts of law, so the citizen has redress.

[edit on 2005/10/10 by GradyPhilpott]

Actually after listening to the rights of the law enforcement in NO over dealing with public intoxication I found out that they have the right to use any force necessary to control individuals.

It seems that even when they are suspended for what it looks like excessive forces they probably will get in trouble not for the beating but for pushing the man that was filming the video.

I don’t know about all that but that is the way the city of NO works.

"Smith! S. M. Smith! Write it down! Get your pen out and write it down!"

Officer Smith, you didn't get real far in school did you? You, sir are the typical bully... Ignorant, arrogant and too stupid to see it.

Resisting arrest is most definitely the second dumbest thing one can do, when you are being ordered to do something by men with guns and handcuffs it is ALWAYS wise to agree quietly and let your lawyer get them fired later.

That being said, these cowardly bullies, stress or no stress, deserve to have the book thrown at them, serve much jail time in the county hoosegow where the fellows they beat up before this night can give these idiots their "come-uppins".

I have certainly be enraged in my time but I could never bring myself to hit someone who is being restrained by others, there is NO EXCUSE for this behavior and I am glad the NOPD is taking that stance. I am also glad to hear they ARRESTED these thugs rather than the typical "sent home on administrative leave until a hearing convenes"...

Springer...

Why is it that just about everytime a citizen goes of the deep end, no matter what the reason, courts say that does not excuse their behaviour. But when police overreact, well, their ALWAYS under stress, so lets forgive or go VERY light on them. They are suppose to be trained to handle stress.

third officer grabbing and shoving an Associated Press Television News producer who helped capture the confrontation on tape.

This would be assault if you or I did it.

Then a fifth officer ordered APTN producer Rich Matthews and the cameraman to stop recording. When Mr. Matthews held up his credentials, the officer grabbed the producer, leaned him backward over a car, jabbed him in the stomach and unleashed a profanity-laced tirade.

No mention of charges for him.

After being questioned and arrested, the three officers were suspended without pay

Without pay. Thats good.

Police said Mr. Davis, a New Orleans resident, was booked on public intoxication, resisting arrest, battery on a police officer and public intimidation. He was treated at a hospital and released into police custody.

4 charges for the citizen.

Three New Orleans police officers are facing battery charges

1 possible charge for the officers.

Mr. Defillo said it would be up to their commanders to decide if they would face charges.

They investagate themselves.

On Friday, state authorities said they were investigating allegations that New Orleans police broke into a dealership and made off with nearly 200 cars – including 41 new Cadillacs – as the storm closed in.

I'm waiting for more on that.
Police are are servents, not our masters. All those young officers had to do was grab that old mans arms, get him on the ground, cuff wrists and ankle's. Carry him off.

"All those young officers had to do was grab that old mans arms, get him on the ground, cuff wrists and ankle's. Carry him off."

hear hear

That's pretty much the heart of the matter, I don't care if MR Johsnon was being rude, profane, whatever, all they had to do was get an arm behind his back and cuff him. In fact, he was against a wall when the beating began.

I wish I could say this is surprising, but it is not! I have seen abd experienced this kind of Nazi actions from my own local PD.
The real difference is they WILL take the vid and it will be lost/distroyed, before u can get it back.
agrre with another poster, the only difference between this andf everyday nazism is they got caught on tape and could not distroy it in time.