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Originally posted by Souljah
Because YOUR Source says so?
What Makes YOUR Source more Reliable then any other?
Becase your GOVERMENT Source told you so?
Originally posted by WHOFLUNGGUM
It seems that one doesn't have to look far to see 'Nazi's'. Not taking a side here but really, isn't there enough going on in your country Souljah to keep you occupied? I mean chill, have a Corona and take in some rays man. You need to get out more.
www.nizkor.org...
Originally posted by WHOFLUNGGUM
It seems that Slovenia has a few skeletons in its closet as well Souljah.
Nazi militia made up of your own country men killing local folks and all.
Like I said before, one doesn't have to look far does one? There's good and bad in all society. Funny how some people like to point out others warts without ever looking in the mirror.
slonews.sta.si...
Originally posted by Souljah
Same thing is Happening in Iraq - it is Divided into 3 Different States by 3 different Ething/Religious Groups.
Originally posted by devilwasp
Originally posted by Souljah
Same thing is Happening in Iraq - it is Divided into 3 Different States by 3 different Ething/Religious Groups.
Well from what I can tell, it always was.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Quoting Scott Ritter is like quoting Michael Moore.
Two peas in a pod. You can't believe ANYTHING they say.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
HA! A lousy shot at deflecting the subject - which is
Scott Ritter. He's an idiot who can be bought in a
moments notice by anyone. He's totally unreliable.
Why? Because the evidence says so.
Originally posted by Souljah
Well I don't think it was always divided. I know that the Abyss between Shia, Sunni and Kurdish population is Big, and that Saddam only helped to make it Bigger, bringing only one side to power and killing other two. But, what is happening Today is the Same Story all over again - only the Roles have been switched. Let's not forget that Iraq with Saddam was supprted by United States and the West in Modern History, and was not always seen as the "enemy of the Free World".
Originally posted by devilwasp
Originally posted by Souljah
Well I don't think it was always divided. I know that the Abyss between Shia, Sunni and Kurdish population is Big, and that Saddam only helped to make it Bigger, bringing only one side to power and killing other two. But, what is happening Today is the Same Story all over again - only the Roles have been switched. Let's not forget that Iraq with Saddam was supprted by United States and the West in Modern History, and was not always seen as the "enemy of the Free World".
Frankly nothing has changed, he was not always but nethier were MANY leaders...
Originally posted by Souljah
Don't you find it Strange that NOBODY wants to see the Dictators in Africa?
Nobody wants to see the Massacres, the Genocide, the Breaking of Human Rights in Sudan?
That nobody wants to see how many "BAD MAN" are in power down there?
The US foreign Policies are FOCUES strictly on Middle East and a little on East Asia - but that is just to Counter the Rising Chinese Empire. Why do you think it is like that?
If the WEST is so NOBLE and so DEMOCRATIC that they want to save the World and save those people that need Help (like the Iraqi people Under Saddam) - why do not they go to Africa and SAVE MILLIONS of people that need saving?
You are right - Nothing has Changed at all.
Empire rise and Fall - but EVIL is Immortal...
Originally posted by devilwasp
You mean the ones that the UN has been working on putting away but has been blocked?
You mean the ones that the US did try and remove in somalia and lost many men while trying to do what the world asked...
You mean the ones that the UN is trying to stop?
Oh? You mean thats why the UN sends troops there..
Actually no it doesnt..
If you hadnt noticed US has involved itself across the globe, the ME is simply a very important area..
We tried that....aparantly you hadnt noticed that...or you dont notice that we ARE doing it...unless ofcourse the UN doesnt count and NATO or the UK must go and be the sword of freedom and free everyone which you(the critics) deem as imprisoned.
Evil?
What is evil?
I see men who dont treat women with a strict code of respect as evil but does that mean anything? No...
Evil and good, truth and lies, right and wrong are all about perspective and opinion....even YOU cant tell me that what I have said is not a fact.
Originally posted by Bout Time
....the man's a brother in arms regardless of the smear campaign.
The supposed money you quote
that's not even a 1/2% of what Rumsfeld & Cheney
each made off of Saddam ?
Originally posted by Souljah
the WORLD did not Ask the US and UK to Liberate Iraq
- THEY DID THAT ON THEIR OWN!
Originally posted by FlyersFan
..... and when we got there the Iraqis thanks us over and over.
They also were very ticked off at the French for trying to block
their freedom from Saddam.
When you say 'the WORLD' ... you mean France and Germany?
They are ones that voted NO on the UN security council because they
were very happy getting their illegal billions in stolen oil for food
money from Saddam. They knew if we liberated Iraq, their
pockets would no longer be lined with that blood money.
Of course they aren't going to ask to liberate Iraq. They much rather
would have continued to allow the mass murders as long as they were
getting their billions of $$$ (that really belonged to the Iraqi people).
Originally posted by Souljah
So what? I remember Certain UN Soldiers in Bosnia watching as the Genocide was being execute infront of their Eyes.
Yeah. Somalia. All the US soldiers Dead in Vietnam don't count here? Or all the Dead in Iraq? What about that? OH I see - the WORLD did not Ask the US and UK to Liberate Iraq - THEY DID THAT ON THEIR OWN!
UN is doing JACK # to stop them!
And? You see any CHANGES? Any PROGRESS? Any PEACE?
Why is it Important? Because it Hosts Ruthelss Dictators? Because it is the Heart of the Islamic Radicals? Why? You don't think OIL has anything to do with it,right? Just plain old "Democracy" in Action.
You did? Damn - I guess I really DID NOT Notice that!
You are still Young - you will Learn. I hope not too late...
Originally posted by devilwasp
You want to know WHY they had to do that?
Because the people in charge cant agree..
Notice you cast off that sacrifice the US made to do what the world asked with 2 words. "Yeah. Somalia." , what the hell man?
Veitnam happened udner the threat of two superpowers, you cant compare the two. The dead in iraq? You mean the ones that died fighting for what they believed or the ones that died because of the mistakes of old men decades ago?
The world didnt ask, frankly we believed it was the right thing to do.
Oh really?
Guess those warships and troops in africa and off her coast are there for the sight seeing.
I think oil has a lot to do with it, but its not the only reason.
Tell me...which states in the middle east have the capability and drive to hit the USA and the UK?
Is it america that is sending islamic teachers and extremists to somalia and all over africa to buy lands, men, guns and matriels.
I may be young and I will learn, but I know enough right now.
You may be older and "wiser" than me but that means bugger all when it comes to questions.
As my old history teacher said; "Politions fear questions from young people", why? Because we ask the right questions.
BTW, if you want to start qouting other people thats fair enough....but all I have to say is this; you will live in thier shade forever.
Originally posted by Souljah
Errr... What people in Charge? There was somebody in Charge?
And people "in charge" for Iraq CAN Agree?
Because Somalia was not WORTH it, Man - and Iraq is.
There is nothing of Importance in Somalia: no Oil, no Strategic Importance, no Nothing, just Desert. Iraq? Lots of Desert, Lots of Oil, Lots of Strategic Importance.
You always start with the "Oh Really?" - watching too muc O'reilly Factor?
What WARSHIPS? What TROOPS? Care to compare how many people are dead and dying in Africa to other Continents? Who needs more Help: Middle East or Africa?
As I remember correctly CIA started to Organize Islamists in Afganistan, they started to Gather then, and guess what; they came from all over the Middle East!
You tell me how many WESTERN states have the Capability to HIT the Middle East?
And then check how many Western states controlled Middle East in their Imperialistic Days. So, who Pissed of Who here?
Yes Boy, you are Young - for you war is a Game you play on your computer. You have never experienced it. You have never seen it closer then on Sky News. Its FUN! Lets SHOOT!
BTW, you have quoted your Old History Teacher, youknowthat?
[edit on 29/11/05 by Souljah]
Originally posted by devilwasp
The people incharge of the UN, the security council.
Somalia wasnt worth it?
So your saying the world was wrong and YOU are right.
Right now there is a french warship off the somalian coast.
So now its a number game? We tried to help africa, we got the hell shot out of and the world stayed silent about it.
Guess what, that was over 2 decades ago. Your now telling me every fighter is now 40?
Many, how many would want to and how many preach death to the middle east every day?
2. 2 countries controlled the most of the world, Britain and france.
War is no game, nor is it fun.
You dont think I feel sad everytime I see a british coffin come home? You dont think I feel it hit home every time the saltire is drapped over a coffin and the flag is at half mast?
I have never sene it closer and I never will probably....but dont you DARE try and judge me, you dont know me...you havent even talked to me.