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Machine
I read the original post and I do see that she said, THE antichrist, but I still say you’re mincing words here. My reading of what she asked for was whether or not the Bible talks about the antichrist and it does. Her capitalization of the word, “THE” only places emphasis on what it is she is interested in which follows as simply, “antichrist”.
Machine
I read the original post and I do see that she said, THE antichrist, but I still say you’re mincing words here. My reading of what she asked for was whether or not the Bible talks about the antichrist and it does. Her capitalization of the word, “THE” only places emphasis on what it is she is interested in which follows as simply, “antichrist”. For Queenannie38 to dismiss this as not being in the Bible is a lie. If she tries to say that the words, “the antichrist” are not in the Bible she is also a liar because several other bible versions have it that way exactly. Either way your word games fall short of the truth no matter which way you take it.
Originally posted by Machine
Why try and omit key words from my post that you quoted Benevolent Heretic unless you know that they hurt your argument? I doubt you would have butchered half of my paragraph away if it would have seemingly benefited your argument.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
What version of the bible is this?
Edit: OK. It's the New International Version, written in 1978. Somehow I don't think the original poster was asking about the 'disco era' version of the bible. I could be wrong, though.
[edit on 9-10-2005 by Benevolent Heretic]
Originally posted by junglejake
I got that version from the New International Version, but it's also there in the New American Standard Bible, The Message, The Amplified Bible , The New Living Translation, King James Version, English Standard Edition, New King James Edition, 21st Century King James Version, American Standard Version, Young's Literal Translation, Darby Translation.
Originally posted by Machine
Queenannie38,
I suspected it for some time but now I know you are indeed a heretic and a liar concerning the true Word of God.
That I already knew--it is obvious that your reliance is upon others' interpretations rather than your own. Reading the bible cover to cover is not the same as studying to show one's self approved--especially if it's not your only focus. It's nigh to impossible not to let extra-biblical commentaries tint the view from clear to cloudy--and there's no reason the Spirit can't teach you all you need to know. That is, if you don't mind being called a heretic now and then.
Originally posted by Machine
I’ve also read well over one hundred books covering various biblical topics.
I'd certainly say it is firmly established, if that is what you mean. Bordering on stubborn held fast to and aggressively defended, often times.
My knowledge of God’s Word is solid.
Not true according to your level of understanding, quite possibly. But nothing I say contradicts scripture.
Most if not all of what you have been teaching concerning the Word of God is not true.
Whoever said I claimed to have a 'christian ideology?' As far as twisting the scripture--what profit comes of that? The simple and beautiful truth of God is presented pretty straightforward--to truly desire to hear God it is not necessary to twist a thing--it is the twist that we are coming out of--that the Spirit will make straight if we walk in the way we have been shown. Out of the darkness into the light.
I consider you to be a serious threat to the readers on this forum because you do have a strong grasp of the Word but twist it to suit your own ideology which is not Christian at all.
There's a lot more going on in your imagination than what is truly taking place, James.
It’s not the first time I’ve had to go to war with someone on these forums who pretends to hold to Christian beliefs but instead spouts new age teachings under the guise of being Christian.
No doubt that is true. Having the right to do such a thing still doesn't make it an appropriate choice of action on my part. Who am I to say you are or are not a christian? If you say you are, then you must truly be. That's nothing to me and truly none of my business. If you're expecting an attack of some sort, I'm afraid you will be waiting indefinitely. That's not the way I function.
You of course have every right to try and convince the members on this forum that I’m not a Christian or attack what I say in any manner you decide.
What you're going to do to me? As soon as what mission is accomplished? I think I deserve a bit more detail concerning your plans for me, or whatever it is you are referring to. I also wonder, regardless of the nature of your 'mission', why you are so confident of what you consider success enough to warrant being then able to consign me to the never-land outside the boundary of neighbor-loving duty?
Or you can simply ignore me which is what I will do to you as soon as my mission is accomplished.
What 'faith' am I trying to destroy, James? How could I possibly do such a thing, anyway--if one has true faith in something, it is not something easily destroyed unless it is allowed. I don't seek to build or destroy faith. All I endeavor to do is to promote and uphold both truth and love for everyone. Just because I don't say what you want to hear or what you feel is right doesn't mean I have a destructive intent, nor is it a call for defense on your part. I am not taking the offensive position nor am I actively attacking anything that should be left to stand. Truth is the strongest force there is, and certainly doesn't require human efforts for fortification--as it is the only thing that can not and will not be moved.
I wish it could be another way but you give me no choice but to defend the faith which you are trying to destroy.
Well, I'm glad to see that there is some bit of human compassion involved here--and I truly appreciate what you are saying. The spiritual change you feel I need has been largely accomplished already--although I certainly don't expect you to know that--since you don't have any inkling of the experiences which I've been given or of my way of life.
On a more human note I do not wish you any harm and pray that God can work within you to bring about the spiritual change that you need to be right with Him.
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Originally posted by queenannie38
He was not Greek nor was the purpose of His visitation the founding of the christian religion.
Originally posted by Machine
Your last post says it all so I have no need to continue letting others know that you are not a Christian. That was my main concern for the others on this forum and you have been honest concerning that. You also acknowledged your new age leanings so others can come to you when they want that type of teaching. My mission with you was a simple one and your honesty has left me with little to do. I only wanted to insure that the other posters on this forum understood that you were not a Christian and taught another gospel.
James
Originally posted by Willow_Dryad
So, so far I have had few replies relating to the Christ. Most of the replies have been related to the Antichrist (I wonder why?).
The person who believes Christ / Antichrist are already here... how do you know? Where are they? Are they both working together in all of this?
I guess what I am looking for is a Prophet. But even if there was a Prophet I would be reluctant to believe him/her, due to the fact that people are full of crap. Also, why cant God just quit with the stupid games and tell us all outright, himself? That way, there would be no excuses. The bible just does not cut it for me, for reasons stated above. It maybe one witness, but its a hell of a poor and unreliable one. There should be another witness... where is it?
Originally posted by Willow_Dryad
So, so far I have had few replies relating to the Christ. Most of the replies have been related to the Antichrist (I wonder why?).
Originally posted by Willow_Dryad
So, so far I have had few replies relating to the Christ. Most of the replies have been related to the Antichrist (I wonder why?).
Originally posted by junglejake
Very through response, Queen Annie! The points you made about bringing the new age about were quite interesting. I'm curious, what does that scripture mean to you in detail?
It has profound meaning for me these days--because the experiences I've been given in the last 2 or 3 years have been unlike anything I could have imagined--the little taste of astonishment and awe I've had has been rocket fuel upon my desire to serve both God and all the souls He's made for the purpose of giving each one the same blessing. And the blessings of true joy and peace that He's given me seeded a love for others that I would have never been able to give on my own...and that just adds to my pile of riches.
I agree the age to come will flabbergast us; it'll be absolutely amazing! Does this have any current meaning for you, though, or do you see it as more prophetic?
Well, the name of Messiah is rightfully Yehoshua and He is the Holy One of Israel--God's work begins in the center point, which is Christ--radiating out through His chosen and prepared servants (the elect)--this is Israel, whose purpose is to glorify God as a light to the rest of the world--until all are gathered under His shelter. The shelter of the OT camp of the children of Israel was open to any sojourner seeking the protection of God--the nations of the world will be joined to Israel--and that's always been the plan:
What did you mean by this, specifically the element of the Christian religion? I guess what I'm looking for is your definition of what the Christian religion is, in this sense (dunno if we're in agreement yet), and what in scripture backs this claim. This is coming from one Christian to another, so scripture is a valid argument