WAR: Human Rights Groups Label Insurgents As War Criminals

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And no the US is not the ones killing civilians on purpose that is the insurgents.
Again nice try not

Dead is dead. When the USA kills Iraqi civilians, they don't report it, they don't condone it, and they don't try to avoid it.

It shows the same level of disdain for Iraqis that the insurgents do, if you can't see that then I don't know how to explain it more.

And at least with the insurgents, everybody KNOWS they are criminals and murderers and torturers. You are not defending your country as much as saying that you are doing inhuman things because so are the insurgents.

If YOU were Iraqi, what would you prefer:

My son was killed accidentally today when an American plane bombed the wrong target.

My son was killed accidentally today when he was at the market and a insurgent's bomb went off.

Either way, your son is dead. Either way, if the United States was not in Iraq, your son would be alive.


Period.

jako



[edit on 12-10-2005 by Jakomo]

[edit on 12-10-2005 by Jakomo]

Originally posted by subz
Oh how grand it would be to live in your World shots. Since when do we need a human rights watchdog to tell us terrorists are human rights abusers? Do you really feel that badly done to when Human Rights groups DARE to criticise the American government on THEIR human rights abuses, that you look for justification for it in reports like this? So badly done to that having these insurgents labelled "human rights abusers" some how absolves the American military of theirs. "Hey they are doing it too!".

No subz, actually, how grand it is to live in your world, where you, as with others, ignore what the insurgents and terrorists are doing in every way that you describe the US and Coalition as doing. How grand it is, eh?!

No, what this report does is do what it should, play the game fair and square. You, as with others, cannot keep ignoring such as taking place, and YOU do. You do so by never making mention of it, making a topic of it, etc. Your focus, as with others, is continually on what the US and Coalition is doing wrong and against human rights. Now that the cards are dealt the other way, you are seemingly having issues with it by telling a member about how grand the world is according to such and such.

Remember, subz, when you point the finger of blame to place condemnation, be aware and smart enough to duck, because be assured, the finger of blame can often times be pointed back, as with that condemnation, especially in a conflict or wartime situation(s).






seekerof

Originally posted by Jakomo
When the USA kills Iraqi civilians, they don't report it, they don't condone it, and they don't try to avoid it.

Yes they do report them, I have read many articles in the papers where the US has stated civilians were killed and they do not condone it either that is why they have JAG officers assigned to units that tell them when and where they are allowed to engage the enemy.

As for not trying to avoid it, you are dead wrong. If that were the case we would no read articles that state the US forces asked civilians to evacute the area before they engaged insurgents, would we.

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If that were the case we would no read articles that state the US forces asked civilians to evacute the area before they engaged insurgents, would we.

How many times have you read about US forces asking civilians to evacuate the area other than Fallujah?


Btw I don't want to give the impression that I believe that US forces actually target civilians knowingly and willfully. I think that there is a level of risk involved whenever there is any kind of urban warfare and US forces know this and don't actually seem to ensure much of Iraq's civilian population's security very much.

The Green Zone is the safest place in all of Iraq by the widest margin possible, and yet it still is under threat all the time.

Originally posted by Jakomo


How many times have you read about US forces asking civilians to evacuate the area other than Fallujah?

Apparently you do not read papers it has happened at least three times recently in two possibly three northern cities on the syrian border alone and I am sure there are more in other parts of the country. Do not believe me look them up yourself. Here are two sources confirming the latest one.

mambo.agrnews.rack2.purplecat.net...

Citizens urged to evacuate