Is the united states in possession of a space fleet

Recent events mainly the hacker guy in englad claiming the u.s is in possession of an interstealler space fleet, who on this board thinks its possible, why would that guy lie ? i belive in the stargate theory ive been hearing about recently, so here is my take on things ? roswell an alien craft crashes, a few aliens live, we help them, they share the fact that they have been visiting for thousands of years, we are givin tech that can take us to the stars, we are also told where a stargate is, we aquire the stargate, the movie comes out as a disinformation, that dosent work to well so the show is backed by the military, why else would it run so long, i personally belive that 95 percent of ufo sightings are our own stuff, the other 5 are aliens

From a fairly reliable source I heard the same, supposedly a small fleet of TR-3B delta-shaped craft and some saucer shaped craft too, all reversed engineered technology from the Zetans.

Unfortunatly this source (LizardsAmok), got banned recently so I am confined to talking to him on Y! Messenger.

i have to say that it was staged repairs to discovery. this was to ensure US populations confidence in the space programme, in order to justify further launches...... for what ever the purpose.

Originally posted by GrOuNd_ZeRo
got banned recently so I am confined to talking to him on Y! Messenger.

How is LA doing? Well i hope?

Im actually looking into how to reverse engineer engines/magnetics atm. hmmm ill have to look into it

Originally posted by semperfi221
Recent events mainly the hacker guy in englad claiming the u.s is in possession of an interstealler space fleet, who on this board thinks its possible, why would that guy lie ?

Most people lie to get attention. It seems to have worked.

the movie comes out as a disinformation, that dosent work to well so the show is backed by the military, why else would it run so long,

The movie came out because a production company thought it would make a good movie. Mission accomplished on thier part. The show has been running for so long, really on a few years, because there are a lot of viewers. As for it being back by the military, where is the evidence to support that?

LA is doing fine, he did shook my confidense in him with increasingly wild claims, but i'll have to see to be sure.

Originally posted by semperfi221
possible, why would that guy lie ?

Why would some guy on the Internet lie? lol, that's an easy one... However, it wouldn't surprise me at all if it were true...

The guy said he was stoned and couldn't remember anything.
Firstly, when I get stoned I don't forget what I see/do.
Secondly, if I was stoned and came across stuff like what he found, I wouldn't forget.

Does this thread actually have a topic?
Is it worthy of life?

Answer to the intial question....

I very much doubt it... if it did have a space fleet, don't you think it would have been identified before now?

With the trouble around the space station running out of air etc, and the shuttle disasters, other space fleet would have had to be seen to help. The fact that they limp along with old equipemnt, and not enough budget would seems to say that no, despite television, it does not exist.

I recall that what Gary McKinnon actually said was that, during one of his hacks, he came across an Excel spreadsheet with references to "non terrestrial officers". It was his "assumption" that this was in reference to a supposed space fleet.

IMO the term itself, "non terrestrial officers", does tend to raise an eyebrow or two, or three . . .

Exactly what/who does that term pertain to?

NASA astronauts/scientists who are, or have been, living on the International Space Station? Not likely, as I don't recall ever having heard them referred to as "officers".

So, then what?! Your guess is as good as any, I suppose.

If he had just put down the pipe long enough to document/save more of what he found/came across.?!

According to the interview I saw/heard, the US Gov "offered" him a "deal" with supposedly minimal jail time/punishment, no public trial, etc. BUT they would not "put it on paper".

Yeah, I'm going to agree to a sweet deal and no public trial with the US Gov-VS-me!? of course without any written guarantee!

Now he stands possible extradition and, I think 75+ years. Hopefully the British Gov will not allow the extradition . . . hopefully.

A space fleet like Prometheus and Dedealus or small, short-range fighters capable of aerial and space flight? Like the F-302? I don't think they could hide a huge spaceship...

Originally posted by semperfi221
roswell an alien craft crashes, a few aliens live, we help them, they share the fact that they have been visiting for thousands of years,

What if they have always been here, even before humans.

This just popped into my head! My greatest theory ever!

Humans on another planet created clones (us) and placed them on Earth to watch how they themselves would have evolved!

I think it's highly liked the US have a fleet of highly advanced craft and I think it's plausible, especially if they did at some point reverse engineer or make contact with an alien race, that they do have perhaps a fleet of craft capable of space travel.

And, if the guy was just looking for attention...he went a helluva long way to get it...he faces a life sentence in an american prison...most people don't go to those lengths for attention and the US gov't doesn't usually get so uptight about people making stuff up for attention

[edit on 12-9-2005 by TruthMagnet]

shorty,

I tend to agree with you - likely we do have some sort of highly advanced ships that can travel in space.

The shuttle is - and for a long time has been - a simple smokescreen - it's just become all the more evident lately because by modern (released) tech levels it makes no sense to still be using its archaic design.

And while I continue to believe that Stargate is simply imaginative fiction - their portrayal of utilizing advanced ships and technology, while keeping it far below the publics perception, seems very plausible to me.

BTW I have a role playing game that was released in the early 80's that involved the un-earthing of a "Stargate" in Antartica as its main theme. Seems this has been a sci-fi premise for long before the show - in fact they may have even ripped it off from the game or countless previously published sci-fi novels.



[edit on 12-9-2005 by TruthMagnet]

Originally posted by Atomix
This just popped into my head! My greatest theory ever!

Humans on another planet created clones (us) and placed them on Earth to watch how they themselves would have evolved!

I hope you are right. I have had this theory that we are some alien kid's 6th grade science experiment.

If they have spaceships and stargates.
when do they plan on telling us

Here is what i put on a different thead.This is what I believe.

Here is what I think about this.

Back in the day humans lived on Mars, their planet had a cycle of 25hours. They had powers of the mind(telekinetics and the like) due to the alpha brainwave thing, which helped them to advance.

Now like all cool and exciting stories, they had a conflict, an enemy. This enemy lived on Nibiru, They were humanoid, their planet had a cycle of 36 hours. They did not like the great people of Mars, they were to great.

Now for their tragic flaws. The great people of Mars were a unified and peaceful race who's technology was rivalled by none at the time. The Nibirueans were a developing war mongering people who's brutallity was a result of their yy male genes(2 y chromisomes for the males of the lot).

Now, the war mongering people known as the Nibirueans began work building a weapon that would destroy the homeworld of the Martians. Well, the Martians didn't take kindly to this, so they began work making a ship so that they could colonize. They feared the Nibirueans because they represented the evil that exists in them, they represented their hidden thoughts, and they reveiled their weaknesses with ease. With fear of complete destruction they prepared to spread to another planet.

But, they would not let this threat get out of hand, they would not allow them to go around killing them. They decided that they would never be peaceful except while in their grave. But they did not want to just up and kill them, they couldn't.

Several attempts later a Martian successfully made a hybrid race, which had the intellect, compassion, and mind abilities of the people of Mars. While they had the strength, war stategy, and desire to spread their race that the Martians lacked. He claimed that he has made the perfect race, he has united two enemies.

Well, this didn't go over well with the Nibirueans. And with their weapon completed they were ready to go on the offensive. And no one will be spared.

The Martians saw only two possibilities. They die or the Nibirueans die. They knew not what to do. But one thing was for certain, neither of these races deserve to rule the galaxy. Who has the right to choose who will live and who will die. Well , they decide to strike back. They first prepared a ship full of the new humans, who if worse comes to worse will be sent to earth to succeed where they failed, and stop a tyrant from destroying all that is sacred.

The Martians destroyed the Nibirueans, and will an explosion, genocide was comitted(Mars-the God of war, kinda ironic isn't it). But the martians would not benift as much as they thought from this. Three large pieces of Nibiru came hurrling toward them. They managed to stop two of them in orbit, but the other ine ended their civilization. The addition of two moons then sped up the day to around were it is now.

The colony ship was sent to earth, but earth too was hit by a Nibiru. This ended the dinosaurs, and plumited earth into an ice age. Living through this was difficult, even for the new breed. They were sent with supplied for a warm climate. So we leared to live off the land and make coats from animals, and hunt.

For many years we stuggled through the cold. When it ended we bagan remaking our lost technology and thus Atlantis and other cities are born. The pyramids are also made. But as if to screw them over, they have no mid powers on earth. With the exception of a few, these few were known as prophets, held kingdoms, and lead wars.

Some famous prophets include Moses and Noah. Noah kept the civilization alive as Atlantis and others were destroyed. Many prophets foretold a day when there creators would visit them or help them.

In the Bible The Red sea is parted and a pillar of fire is desended upon the king of egypt. Elijah is brought up into the heavens alive, in a flaming chariot. A wicked man is made blind because of dibelief. When his is granted his sight again things like scales fall from his eyes(contacts... cough cough).

And now they visit us today with more advanced technology then before by means of UFO. They are still peaceful and still want to help us. These are Martians that fed somewhere else and thrived.

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