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Originally posted by roger_pearse
This appears to be merely a reiteration of the claim to superior education and intelligence. It's a somewhat unfortunate thing to say, since you don't seem to have understood my comment -- at any rate, you don't address it.
I have addressed all these assertions elsewhere in the thread, and refer you to that. You should note that some of what you repeated here is mutually contradictory.
I'm afraid the sources from which you obtained this hearsay are not worth much consideration.
Indeed. Nothing of the above, for instance, since I prefer my statements to be based on fact.
Because they were not voted in by those in attendance at the council of Nicea.
Originally posted by roger_pearse
This story is a myth. No such events ever occurred.
I'm afraid you've got your facts wrong again. The atheist literature you read is full of the most crass historical errors. The interesting thing is that atheists hardly ever check it!
i can't tell you who wrote the gospels, they are annonymous authors.
Because they were not voted in by those in attendance at the council of Nicea.
Originally posted by roger_pearse
This story is a myth. No such events ever occurred.
you go on about me stating things without prior evidence etc, and proclaim 'you' always make statements and prefer them to be based on fact when you write such utter nonsense as 'this story is a myth, no such event ever occured'. what in the world do you base that on? the council of nicea is fact. it is also fact that they chose which books would go in.
The atheist literature you read is full of the most crass historical errors. The interesting thing is that atheists hardly ever check it!
it's not just atheist literature that will speak of the council of nicea, or the putting together of the many books to make the bible.
i'm actually very curious as to how you think the bible was put together
as you seem intent on putting down every forum member, who says something that opposes your beliefs or opinions.
i can't tell you who wrote the gospels, they are annonymous authors.
Originally posted by roger_pearse
The evidence is otherwise.
It just growed.
Originally posted by roger_pearse
Originally posted by spamandham
Because they were not voted in by those in attendance at the council of Nicea.
This story is a myth. No such events ever occurred.
Originally posted by roger_pearse
I'm afraid you've got your facts wrong again. The atheist literature you read is full of the most crass historical errors. The interesting thing is that atheists hardly ever check it!
Originally posted by shaunybaby
i can't tell you who wrote the gospels, they are annonymous authors.
Originally posted by roger_pearse
The evidence is otherwise.
i'd love to see some of that 'evidence'.
It just growed.
1) it's grew not growed.
2) please show some evidence of this.
Originally posted by shaunybaby
john (jesus' disciple) had 'no education', how then with no education could he write? let alone write as he was travelling with jesus, such as a journal. (acts 4:13).
Originally posted by spamandham
Originally posted by roger_pearse
Originally posted by spamandham
Because they were not voted in by those in attendance at the council of Nicea.
This story is a myth. No such events ever occurred.
Why don't you share then (your sources, not simply your assertions)? You seem to think you are knowledgable on the subject.
Originally posted by roger_pearse
I'm afraid you've got your facts wrong again. The atheist literature you read is full of the most crass historical errors. The interesting thing is that atheists hardly ever check it!
You could also present the 'atheist' liturature I draw my information from (since you know so much about it, no need for me to tell you where it came from) and point out the flaws.
Originally posted by roger_pearse
Why not go and look, then? Unless you're working with the idea that you are allowed to believe (and assert) any old thing, and everyone else is obliged to prove you wrong?
Did you really consider that I didn't know the rules of conjugating English verbs? It is, of course, a quotation.
Originally posted by shaunybaby
john (jesus' disciple) had 'no education', how then with no education could he write? let alone write as he was travelling with jesus, such as a journal. (acts 4:13).
Guess.
Originally posted by roger_pearse
Why don't you share then (your sources, not simply your assertions)? You seem to think you are knowledgable on the subject.
Originally posted by roger_pearse
If I were cruel, I would now ask to see the evidence on which you based your confident assertions to the contrary.
Originally posted by spamandham
Originally posted by roger_pearse
Why don't you share then (your sources, not simply your assertions)? You seem to think you are knowledgable on the subject.
All the ancient evidence on Nicaea
It's generally considered bad practice to reference your own article as a source
, but regardless, from your own words:
"From these there appears almost no evidence that the council of Nicaea made any pronouncements on which books go in the Bible, with the ambivalent exception of Jerome, or about the destruction of heretical writings, or reincarnation. "
It is the books now considered heretical that are at question! To simply dismiss the function of the council of culling these books as if that is not the same thing as selecting the remaining books is sophistry.
Originally posted by roger_pearse
If you demand a list of sources from me, it seems odd for you to complain when I provide one.
Originally posted by shaunybaby
Originally posted by roger_pearse
If you demand a list of sources from me, it seems odd for you to complain when I provide one.
exactly, a 'list' of sources. hence, not some articles 'you' wrote on your website.
Originally posted by Amuk
Originally posted by speight89
I am confident that he went crazy loads of times!
I dont really see how whither he jacked a car as a teenager really matters to the message.
Originally posted by roger_pearse
You have misunderstood what I wrote, I'm afraid.
Anyhow, the facts about Nicaea, from the ancient sources, are available. Look if you want; don't if you don't.
Originally posted by spamandham
Originally posted by roger_pearse
You have misunderstood what I wrote, I'm afraid.
Anyhow, the facts about Nicaea, from the ancient sources, are available. Look if you want; don't if you don't.
Why do you bother posting simply to negate without substance? All the best indeed.
Originally posted by spamandham
It's generally considered bad practice to reference your own article as a source,
Why do you bother posting simply to negate without substance
shaunybaby
a 'list' of sources. hence, not some articles 'you' wrote on your website.
Originally posted by Nygdan
If no substance is presented, but rather a mere assertion, then why should a detailed response be required?
Originally posted by shaunybaby
then by all means carry on believing that...
i'm not about to lay all the information here on a plate, really you need to go out and look this information up for yourself
Originally posted by spamandham
I quoted his own words from his article and explained why it proves him wrong,