NEWS: Martial Law Declared in New Orleans

Fox news twist. This was on the broadcast a few minutes ago. I doubt you will see anything in print. The reporter was questioning on whether or not Newe Orleans will be rebuilt. He said local emergancy personell said yes, but there were others questioning it. Then he quickly posed the question/statement of why rebuild a city that is under the sea level now that we know what nature can do to this city. It can and probablly will happen again.

Ok NWO people, have at it. Martial law, the possibility of not rebuilding, and then what re-wilding the place?

The city probably shouldn't be rebuilt, but I'm sure it will be...we all, in every country, have a history of rebuiliding cities in dangerous areas.

It looks like fox news has gone off the deep end yet again, making up developing stories. But those levies breaking is the worst case scenario for N.O.

As far as rebuilding the city, I would think it would cost more to abandon a city instead of repair and rebuild 5 or 6 times. Just comparing Grand Forks ND after their flood, it only took 3 years and you cannot see any signs of that flood, except for a couple new buildings and businesses.

But the developing story in the next 48 hours, according to CNBC, is the gas pipeline is shut down and the south, parts of the midwest, and the eastern states will begin facing shortages. And price hike of at least 1 to 2 dollars in unaffected areas.

From www.sunherald.com...

Re: New Orleans Looting Chaos & Martial Law

'"Once we get the 3,000 National Guardsmen here, we're locking this place down," Mayor Ray Nagin said...

"... Looters also chased down a state police truck full of food. The New Orleans police chief ran off looters while city officials themselves were commandeering equipment from a looted Office Depot. During a state of emergency, authorities have broad powers to take private supplies and buildings for their use...

"... New Orleans' homeland security chief, Terry Ebbert, said looters were breaking into stores all over town and stealing guns. He said there are gangs of armed men moving around the city. At one point, officers stranded on the roof of a hotel were fired at by criminals on the street..."


I hear the locals are calling it Sodom & Gomorrah...

The whole world is watching and this is how people are acting. Tell me, what does a stolen car stereo get you in a time like this???

I find it hard to believe that they wouldn't rebuild the city. Who would make that decision, and what would they tell the millions of people who want the city rebuilt? I find it hard to believe that we would abandon a major American city...especially one with such a long and influential history.

On the other hand now that we've screwed up the planet (or are going through a natural cycle, depending on your point of view) there's likely to be more and more of these awful hurricane seasons. If we rebuild NO, we have to use technology to make it better...kind of like the bionic man.

More on the looting vs supplies...

These people have supplies.
news.yahoo.com.../050831/ids_photos_ts/r2605159732.jpg

This woman is going to loot.
news.yahoo.com.../050830/480/ladm11608301734

Even people as far away as Germany are picking up on the racist crap in the American media.
service.spiegel.de...

[edit on 8/31/2005 by Flinx]

With this talk of martial law and the evacuation of NO, the news casts are asking where is everyone going to go. what about all of the FEMA concentration type camps that are supposed to exist. surely we could open up one of these...if they exist.

Flinx: Great pics.

LordBaskettIV said:
Anybody who willingly lives below sea level ON THE COAST even,
deserves thier slow hungry death.NO has been warned for years!
that this would happen.I dont feel sorry at all for anyone
there.It's like people who live on a fault line....they are
asking for it.

No, many (of the poorest, lowest percentile) are generational
poverty. But then Lord, you'd probably want them to die just
for being in that group, eh? Ha ha, just kidding.

You see, lots of poor people have poor parents. They cannot afford
to get out of there, and their social situation places them in
a situation where they quickly become hopeless. Lots of poor people
depend on one income only. Lots of people in one apartment, for
example. Apartments that were warned to be destined for failure,
according to the weather reports preceding Katrina.

Also, many of the people who live there support the infrastructure
of the oil industry that feeds America. A third of it, in fact. They live
there because their job requires it.

[edit on 31-8-2005 by smallpeeps]

Originally posted by soficrow
The most successful business strategies are responsive - they adapt and use naturally occurring opportunities to strategic purpose. Think guerilla warfare, Lao Tsu.


www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

How unfortunate that the US already has blown its budget - for the next hundred years - on economic expansion in Afghanistan and Iraq.

More evidence of questionable priorities IMO. Violent weather anomalies and killer storms were predicted years ago, as was the appearance of virulent new diseases. Government analysts were well aware that the impacts of these and other predicted disasters would be extensive and costly.

Decisions obviously were made NOT to protect ordinary Americans' health and well-being; government priorities funnel hard-earned tax money to support corporate economic expansion instead.


Refuge camps are cheap, and their use can be justified, which serves the dual purpose of normalizing their use.

Edit to add last para.

[edit on 1-9-2005 by soficrow]

In reading dgtempe's thread that was just closed, www.abovetopsecret.com... I'm starting to wonder if our government is going to let this thing deteriorate to the point where the people demand martial law. Forget about them slowly acclimating us to it, they want the people to cut their own throats. First some media say that martial law has been declared, then some say it hasn't. Now some media say national guard troops are being fired at, but some say it hasn't been confirmed. Why so much confusion? Like a member mentioned in an earlier post, 'they're' striking while the iron is red hot. We'll demand it and the national guard will go in there and start killing "looters" and "troublemakers" and justify it by saying they had to because they needed to get help to the helpless.

The herd will buy it and not only accept it more freely in the future, but demand it. 'They'll' be more than happy to oblige us.

Peace

on FOX, heavily armed police "swat"? in water and on boat heading out in New Orleans, could be the beginning of the authorities trying to regain control......

Shotguns, M-16's etc,

Now reporting that these officer's received incoming rifle fire, looks like a search & destroy....

[edit on 9/1/05 by JacKatMtn]

While the looting of appliances/jewelry/valuables from secured shops/homes/persons is illegal and should be punished, I can't condemn the taking of food, clothing, or medicine which are necessities to a human beings survival - one has to do what one must to survive. This chaos could have been diminished if we didn't have such miserable leadership.

New Orleans district of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers faces
New Orleans City Business June 6, 2005 by Deon Roberts

In fiscal year 2006, the New Orleans district of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is bracing for a record $71.2 million reduction in federal funding.

It would be the largest single-year funding loss ever for the New Orleans district, Corps officials said.

I've been here over 30 years and I've never seen this level of reduction, said Al Naomi, project manager for the New Orleans district. I think part of the problem is it's not so much the reduction, it's the drastic reduction in one fiscal year. It's the immediacy of the reduction that I think is the hardest thing to adapt to.

There is an economic ripple effect, too. The cuts mean major hurricane and flood protection projects will not be awarded to local engineering firms. Also, a study to determine ways to protect the region from a Category 5 hurricane has been shelved for now.

Congress is setting the Corps budget.

The House of Representatives wants to cut the New Orleans district budget 21 percent to $272.4 million in 2006, down from $343.5 million in 2005. The House figure is about $20 million lower than the president's suggested $290.7 million budget.

It's now up to the Senate. Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-New Orleans, is making no promises.

It's going to be very tough, Landrieu said. The House was not able to add back this money ... but hopefully we can rally in the Senate and get some of this money back.

Landrieu said the Bush administration is not making Corps of Engineers funding a priority.

I think it's extremely shortsighted, Landrieu said. When the Corps of Engineers' budget is cut, Louisiana bleeds. These projects are literally life-and-death projects to the people of south Louisiana and they are (of) vital economic interest to the entire nation.

www.findarticles.com...






[edit on 1-9-2005 by Vajrayana]

The local news just reported they are deploying 3000 soldiers from Ft. Bragg to New Orleans to help contain the chaos. I hope things don't get too out of hand.

Edit: Found a Link





[edit on 1-9-2005 by Vajrayana]

Just wondering what others' thoughts on this are:

With people shooting at rescue helicopters, Charity Hospital, medical convoys on the ground, etc., now, just how is Bush really going to visit an area like that -- whether he stays in the air, or braves walking around in NO somewhere -- with no way for SS to secure the area beforehand?

I mean, we all know he *has* to go down there... but NO is quite a different scene than NY after 9-11. He's not gonna find a photo-op with a megaphone and some firefighters in front of the Superdome.

Bush plans to start his tour in Mobile, Ala., where he will meet with local officials, fly over the coast by helicopter and visit with those on the ground. He then plans to meet up with Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco in New Orleans, which he will also tour by air and possibly on foot as well, according to White House spokesman Scott McClellan.

source

[edit on 1-9-2005 by blackholebrain]

Originally posted by blackholebrain
I mean, we all know he *has* to go down there... but NO is quite a different scene than NY after 9-11. He's not gonna find a photo-op with a megaphone and some firefighters in front of the Superdome.

I just laughed at the visual image of that, and I know it's nowhere even close to funny...

You're quite right....I suspect he may be lead through certain parts of the city in an armored vehicle and return to a safer area outside of the city to make his comments perhaps?

Originally posted by Flinx
I find it hard to believe that they wouldn't rebuild the city. Who would make that decision, and what would they tell the millions of people who want the city rebuilt?

Florida is a prime hurricane target, yet the market is booming because people want to live there for the warm weather despite the threat.

I guess people just don't think it could happen to them and would risk their lives for a little bit of sunshine and salty sea air.

Same thing with New Orlean's... Such a great city, rich with history, and lot's of culture.

I would hate to see it go personally, and I don't think it will..

I don't get my 'news' from FOX as they like to draw up a bunch of hypotheticals, and stir the pot of emotions.

If you want to educate yourself on weather and the goings on due to the weather, I watch the 'weather channel' , that is, if my sources at the time are to come from tv.

Let me pose this question about the two photos. Where they captioned by the media? Or were they captioned by individuals who took the photos?

If not done by the same person(organization) it may not be racism, but just that person's POV of taking things out of a store

I have a thought.. Why doesn't America start an adopt a family situation. There must be thousands across the country that would be able to take a family in and help them get back on their feet. It would get the people out of the area while the fixing is all done and give them a roof over their head. It is an entirely feasible and workable option instead of having camps set up which can attract disease and crime.

The adopting family could oversee the other families rebuilding needs and help them to maybe settle elsewhere, find work and get everything and paperwork back on track. A central adopting database could be set up and relief funds could be channelled thru to families deemed most in need.

It would take a sacrifice of time and effort on the part of many Americans but it would help rebuild the country and help unify the people into doing something that counts in this world of not caring.

There are so many families that really need an option like this. Someone to take care and help them rebuild. The lady that was caught looting for formula and nappies is one such person that comes to mind. If I was over there I would certainly offer to take someone in and do what i could do to help them rebuild.



[edit on 1-9-2005 by Mayet]

Originally posted by Mayet
I have a thought.. Why doesn't America start an adopt a family situation. T...It is an entirely feasible and workable option instead of having camps set up which can attract disease and crime.

It would take a sacrifice of time and effort on the part of many Americans but it would help rebuild the country and help unify the people into doing something that counts in this world of not caring.

Brilliant recommendation. I say just do it - make it happen through ATS. Neutralize the NWO takeover strategy with ordinary love, compassion, and caring.

BTW - you get my WATS vote.

Good idea, but there are some road blocks to it though. The people who would probablly be the most willing to adopt a family would be those who are poor themselves. The poor barely have enough room themselves and rent instead of own. With a rental, you can only have as many people in the place as the lease allows.

Those who are better off, and have some room in their houses to do so would be hesitant. How would they know they wouldn't bring in a looter to their own home? How could they trust the family who is moving in with them?

Most people like their privacy. Even with all the good intentions, if a family was adopted things will get hairy if they have to stay for longer than what was originally thought.

You might have a better time setting up funds to be able to place the people in hotel rooms and/or rentals for a few months until they can either return to their homes, or restablish themselves some where else.

Originally posted by Amuk
Short answer.....yes.

In a state of emergency

Under the Louisiana Homeland Security and Emergency Assistance and Disaster Act of 1993, the governor (and in some cases, the chief parish officials), have the right to commandeer to utilize any private property if necessary to cope with the emergency. Authorities may suspend any statute related to the conduct of official business. The Act also gives authority the right to compel evacuations, suspend alcohol and weapons sales and make provisions for the availability and use of temporary emergency housing.

But no martial law exists, even though the Governor can declare a state of emergency which gives authorities widespread lattitude to suspend civil liberties as they try to restore order and bring victims to safety.