Iran overhauling its airplanes

This is to people who say Iran can not maintain their planes.

Hmm, looks like a chop shop to me.

How many of those planes are being returned in flight worthy condition?

Hopefully they will all be returned to flightworthy condition - they are so much more fun to shoot down than blowing them up on the ground.

Love the picture of the mad mullahs watching over their faithful workers.

yeah, they look very stealthy !

I bet even the russians could handle that airforce... or maybe even tazmania

Yeah well all those critising Iran here may get there nickers in a twist if and when Russia and china start helping Iran with their military tech..
You might see some FC-1s and J-10s in Iranian colours!!

do you mean the fc-1 that china had to hire grumman to modernize ?
and by the j-10 do you mean the one that had so many software problems, its #2 prototype crashed ? the one that MAY be operational in 2006 ?


you're funny

[edit on 23-8-2005 by syrinx high priest]

Originally posted by syrinx high priest
do you mean the fc-1 that china had to hire grumman to modernize ?
and by the j-10 do you mean the one that had so many software problems, its #2 prototype crashed ? the one that MAY be operational in 2006 ?

You can hardly point fingers at any country with planes in flight test. As I recall a Raptor crashed on takeoff due to a software fault as well.

Actually it crashed because the pilot didn't follow the checklist after they switched from internal to external power and back again. He failed to run the self check on the computer that would have told him the FCC was offline.

Originally posted by Zaphod58
Actually it crashed because the pilot didn't follow the checklist after they switched from internal to external power and back again. He failed to run the self check on the computer that would have told him the FCC was offline.

cool, I was generalizing to show that bad things happen in test, that why planes do not go from drawing board to squad service.

I would be interested to see if anybody can come up with pictures of teh IAF F-14's undergoing MRO. AWST estimates they have 4? in flying condition.

I've heard conflicting reports about the Tomcats. Some say they canabilizedto keep a few flying, another says that they finally had to ground the last of them because of no parts, accidents, etc.

Probably just released th photos of the Phantoms to yank the Yanks' chains!

Iran has produced a few decent engineers and they do have a nuclear power program, so you have to assume they can service these things and keep them flying. And there's a whole market for military spares (I think its' got a black roof!) if you need them. Avoid the US by shipping across Russia, pay a Russian general and he'll probably give your spares a military escort!

How many European nations flew Phantom? How did they dispose of them?

Spares for the Tomcats are probably a bit harder 'though...Still, the Vietnamese used all their US-supplied gear when they invaded Cambodia, it didn't matter if it all got destroyed, they didn't have a spare parts catalogue for it anyway...If the Iranians were smart they'd do the same, let the Phantoms and Tomcats die on the first day, then use the MiGs...

i have seen a photo on here , of the iranian F-14`s on a fly past from a few years ago - and it looks like they have a good number of them AND with the AIM-54`s as well , all in flying condition.

Now you can say `but the aim54`s were disabled etc etc , but , unless they are actually tested in combat , then no one can know for sure.

Actually by now the AIM-54s probably all have cracks and will blow up if they try to fire them. That's the reason the USN stopped using them.

Hmm,

While the Iranian Air Force, lacks in many respects the basic tactics and operational abilities of many Western Nations, its air force are not bog standard either. Iran are infamous for their ability to reverse engineer aircraft, the Huey Bell being one of the prime examples of this. Any one that believes that because they are an Eastern Nation, they don't know any thing about their aircraft, they are either preduced or have a lack of firm intelligence.

I have noticed this new trend of new members, being openly offensive to other nations, which happen not to fly the Stars and Stripes. Its frankly sickening and should be, I hope, will be dealt with quickly and finally.

- Phil

hey phil,
how did you feel about islamic terrorists on July the 7th ? openly offensive ?


anyway, reverse engineer this





or this

zaphod - i remember something about the russians supplying new rocket motors for the aim54`s - so they could well be serviceable.


synrix - the russians AND chinese allready have alot parts of an F-117a , so , reverse engineering them won`t be too hard

Originally posted by syrinx high priest
hey phil,
how did you feel about islamic terrorists on July the 7th ? openly offensive ?


anyway, reverse engineer this

Greetings,

Well Gosh, I didn't expect that.

Now I don't like to assume, its a bad habit to get into, but based on your comments, are you saying that any islamic nation is supporting of the Attacks on both the United States in September and then in the United Kingdom. Your a Fool if you believe this and merely shows your lack of knowledge in which you are trying to wade into.

Now, I am sorry but the more educated members of this forum know that not all islamic nations are supportive of terrorism or attacks on the US or UK. I trully feel sorry that you must use the attack in London as your only means to cast your preduce of hatred over a whole religion.

As for your over sentimental images of american hardware, I wasn't sure what you hoped by posting those images, I can only guess at the purpose that you hoped to impress people, I am more impressed with the resealable milk carton.

- Phil

[edit on 23-8-2005 by gooseuk]

Originally posted by syrinx high priest
do you mean the fc-1 that china had to hire grumman to modernize ?
and by the j-10 do you mean the one that had so many software problems, its #2 prototype crashed ? the one that MAY be operational in 2006 ?


you're funny

[edit on 23-8-2005 by syrinx high priest]

nope.. I'm talking about the J-10 that was inducted in 2003..That of which there are about 50 units in service as of now..
That of which the prototype crashed oh..say 10 years ago??
Here's a credible dutch site clearly stating the date of induction..

www.scramble.nl...

excerpt:
New front-line airplane programs include the J10 fighter that obtained operational status in 2003 and the FC-1 lightweight fighter that had its first flight in 2003.

And as for pics of serving J-10s there's plethora of sites you can look up..
gosh..I never thatought this day would come..
cw you watching? me defending the J-10..What next??

So in the business of being awkwardly quaint(notice i didn't say funny) you win hands down..

P.S: Which settlement did you get evicted from

[edit on 23-8-2005 by Daedalus3]

Originally posted by Harlequin

synrix - the russians AND chinese allready have alot parts of an F-117a , so , reverse engineering them won`t be too hard

Russians... yes from the one shot down over Serbia, but chinese...whats the story to that??

I simpy found it comical you were implying Iran could reverse engineer anything meaningful like the 117 or 22A

I couldn't care less if you are offended by my posts. Maybe you expected a bunch of sycophants here that will agree with everything the mighty goose has decreed is acceptable ?


You do understand that the sole purpose of these machines is to turn people into charred fragments, right ? I hope that doesn't offend your refined sensibilities