Religion and Law

This is a questions thats made subtle headlines in some posts.

Should laws and governing systems revolve around religion?
I for one believe that religion does not belong in any way, shape or form when it comes to the task of governing a nation.

No one religion can represent the masses of a whole nation.
Deep

[Edited on 29-8-2003 by ZeroDeep]

I would disagree.

All of our laws are simply derived from the Ten Commandments in the end. They are the 10 most important rules in life, and they should obviously influence our law. Other countrys make their own laws, according to religion or not, thats not our problem. Personally, as religion isn't the problem, only the preachers, I see no reason why most if not all main laws should not revolve in some way around the countrys main religion. There would be no problem if it were not for fanatics opposing it and causing violence for no reason other than spite. Grrrr

The Laws within America do not include all of the 10 Commandments, although they would include 3 maybe 4 at best. The Laws within America do however include ALL LAWS that every American regardless of Religion or lack thereof must follow or be held accountable. NO RELIGIOUS writings belong in a SUPREME COURT. NO VOODOO, OR MUSLIM, HINDU, ETC.....They belong in a Church.

The Commandment of "NOT USING THE LORDS NAME IN VAIN" should not even be a possible notion in the mind of a judge or jury when dealing with Legal Matters of this Country.

And anyone who says that America "The Supreme Capitalist Nation" has anything against Coveting is living in fantasy land. To Covet is the Driving Force behind Captialism. BIGGER, BETTER, FASTER, MORE!!!! IF ONE IS GOOD, TWO IS BETTER!!!

Don't mix your Politics with your Religion. Neither Religion nor Politics needs any more confusion within it's policies.

I am not against RELIGION, ANY OF THEM.....I DO NOT SUPPORT ANTI-RELIGIOUS MOVEMENTS TO STAMP OUT RELIGIOUS PRACTICE....BUT I DO SUPPORT THE SEPARATION OF RELIGIOUS DOCTRINES FROM SOCIETIES LAWS.

I cant seem to find where I heard this and qoute me if im wrong.
I remember a certain member of the united states goverment, I think it was the President stating that Marriage should only be between and Man and a Woman as stated by the Bible, Church
Im not sure who said this.
Does the president have the right to make such a remark with such a religious tone?
Deep

the laws derive from the ten commandments - i doubt that very much. As already mentioned the laws to not encompass all of the commandments. Also - i doubt there are any who see murder, for example, as an acceptable behaviour - regardless of whether they believe in the ten commandments.


As for whether religion should be brought in to laws i don't believe it should since those who are not of the religion are forced to follow moral codes that have no relevance to their life, that they may see as unjust or unreasonable...
There are certain laws that all agree on - those revolved around protecting people and their property. Other religious codes should be a personal choice.

That's a festering lesion you've poked at there. On the one hand, we are "One nation under God" But, on the other hand, it's coming out of the mouth of George W. Bush. I wouldn't believe him if he told me the sun would rise in the east tomorrow. However, there is merit to the arguments on both sides. On the one hand, if two people love each other that much, they should get married. ...but on the other hand...The bible says that a man should not lay with another man...which is, IMO a big deal. Either way, you're going to have alot of angry people. Oh well. Peace.

-Law and Order-

Religion shouldn't play a role. America is an extremely diverse nation. It's ridiculous to attach any ONE religion to the laws governing MANY different people. Another opinion of mine is that a certain motto, 'in god we trust', has no place on the currency that I must use. Hypocrisy doesn't sit well with me.

No one religion can represent the masses of a whole nation.

You're right, but one religion can oppress the masses of a whole nation...

There are basic laws that we, as humans see as universal. We should outlaw murder, theivery, assault, etc. There doesn't need to be a religious basis for this. Once you add in religion to the mix, then you have things which would be perfectly acceptable otherwise to most people, except to those of that religion, and that's when you've started down the road of oppression, for you are now oppressing those not of that religion....

Originally posted by ZeroDeep
I cant seem to find where I heard this and qoute me if im wrong.
I remember a certain member of the united states goverment, I think it was the President stating that Marriage should only be between and Man and a Woman as stated by the Bible, Church
Im not sure who said this.
Does the president have the right to make such a remark with such a religious tone?
Deep

Personally, I don't think Christianity or any religion belongs in the White House. Only in Church or at your home. I don't care if this country was founded on Judeo-Christian beliefs. We now have a population with very mixed religions and beliefs and those beliefs shouldn't come into our government.

[Edited on 26-9-2003 by maynardsthirdeye]

You can always look at history to find an answer...And if you know how to interpret the "mainstream" history & dig with more research for the "true" history, then you can get *more complete answers*. just a look at mainstream history shows that any form of government that runs from a Religion has failed (or in the case of modern examples) or *is failing as a government*.

You know what happened to Monarchies & Fuedalist States that had a ruling class based upon "divine favor", don't you? By giving people a choice as to what religion they follow, then they're only under the thumb of that religion *by choice*...But when the government is also under the rule of the religion, then *all* of the people are under the thumb of that religion whether or not they choose.

Freedom of religion is the best way to go because then people can choose whose thumbs they get crushed under...