places not to go.

is there any of the big vaction spots that might endanger my life and my family's? out side of the US. like kidnapping,murder,and any thing that is upleasent.

odessa, texas.

Camden, NJ

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Originally posted by DRAGON27
is there any of the big vaction spots that might endanger my life and my family's? out side of the US. like kidnapping,murder,and any thing that is upleasent.

Avoid Rio DeJanero; Venezuela; Columbia; Any where in the middle east. Mexican border towns

There are many places in the US to visit that are beautiful and fun. bvut if you insist on going outside the US, I recommend Italy, anywhere in the Netherlands, and Iceland (best kept secret).

Originally posted by Kellter
Camden, NJ

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To much crime down there! :shk:


[edit on 6-8-2005 by Striker122]

Where not to travel outside the U.S

Yeah!...go to Salford, Manchester UK.

walk around at night and probably within about 30 seconds you will have been stabbed/mugged/shot etc......what a great holiday destination though...at least your near Manchester United's ground!

yea we were thinking more along the lines of the carabinen.

Originally posted by Kellter
Camden, NJ

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Atleast you don't have to live here! ha Man it sucks I live on the border so practically in there and boy it sure does suck It is bad up here I guess thats why it was named number one worst city in the country

since every where in this world but home is a unexsectable vacation spot. ive decided that we'll be going to Anartica to see the wildlife and ice

Originally posted by Thug69

Originally posted by Kellter
Camden, NJ

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Atleast you don't have to live here!

ha Man it sucks I live on the border so practically in there and boy it sure does suck It is bad up here I guess thats why it was named number one worst city in the country

I know somebody who left where I work to be a Camden Cop. He was in a shootout his first year there.

Barcelona, Spain
After two hours in town the cops had arrested my friends (including puting a gun to the head of my boyfriend, for the fun, you know..), taken our dogs away (even if we had their papers and they were on the line...). they asked 400 euros to take the dogs back( they stayed 12 hours locked in a police car trunk, expensive hotel!). Two days later my paper were stolen and not lang after a friend got arrested and ripped off all his vacation money. It was so fun i can't wait to go back!!!!
if you are not an old fat stinking rich tourist, you should better go south of Spain, or in the basque lands!
:bash:

I had a great time Barcelona a couple years ago, though it is kind of expensive...no problems whatsoever like mystika23 reported, in fact, I'd recommend it.

Aston, Lozells or Nechells.

Brumtown.

UK.

Here's a map of dangerous places I scanned from a French magazine about traveling. (Click the link to view full size image.)

It's based on the book "The World's Most Dangerous Places" by Robert Young Pelton. Well, the author of that book is actually a hardcore traveler, he's not the typical disneyland tourist.

You might also want to read this interesting interview with the guy in question. (with Google Cache because Salon jail us in stupid banner ads when we link directly.)

Those are the fun spots!

Anyway stay out of the darien gap! lol

Colombia seems to be very crazy in most places. Only others I can think of are various parts of Russia and Asia. Mexico has its obvious problems but they have a lot of great spots to go to. Italy did have a serious kidnapping/ransom problem but I am unaware of the current situation.

Those are the absolute worst. Look up a book by "Pelton" he has one I belive is entitled worlds most dangerous places. It covers most everything.

Originally posted by DRAGON27
is there any of the big vaction spots that might endanger my life and my family's? out side of the US. like kidnapping,murder,and any thing that is upleasent.

Originally posted by DRAGON27
since every where in this world but home is a unexsectable vacation spot. ive decided that we'll be going to Anartica to see the wildlife and ice

I know that was meant sarcastically but I have actually looked into the cruises that are done to Antarctica -- They look really cool - if you don't mind the pretty big chance of hitting rough seas for at least a portion of the trip. But these trips are expensive -- big time expensive. So unless I hit the lottery it will remain a dream only.

I must admit that I have a weakness for being in dangerous places. There is nothing as thrilling as watching politics you know nothing about as it hits the streets.

One of my first travels in the middle east was in the Mid 80's.

I was in Beirut when the UN withdrew and allowed Syria to roll in. I was stuck on the ground, on foot, with like $20 usd and and a canteen of water. I walked to the Israeli border. Not one military outfit, not even the UN, would give me a ride or a drink of water or anything. The Swedes did stop to tell me that my life was in danger and I should leave the country. Then they got back in a landrover-looking thing and drove away.

Then the israelis started shelling, to cover their retreat. I got to see a dogfight between an unmarked Israeli F-16 and Some syrian unmarked migs. (I think). I was 20.

I thought it was cooler than Rambo until the autocannon rds from the jets started coming down around me.

Personally, I really liked South America. I guess danger is relative. I never felt any "hate for the yanqui" or anything. But, then I emphasized my Texan citizenship rather than my US tag. And my US currency was worth 10 times what it was at home. Luxury apartments for a few hundred a month in the capital, a haircut for a buck, pitcher of beer for 50 cents, etc.

I spent some time in South Mexico in the mid 90's. It was a freakout because the indians in Chiapas state were trying to stage a revolution, and the govt troops (only armed ppl I ever saw) were totally nuts, partly in fear of american spies, journalists and tourists getting in the middle.

Anyway, now with kiddoes, we only travel so the Granparents can see the progeny. No more adventures, till they go to college!!

Dragon77,

You might want to think twice before sending your teenage daughter alone to Aruba. Bonaire has a reputation for rental-car larceny. You might want to reconsider any decision to vacation in Nuevo Laredo, MX, especially at night. You should reconsider any decision to visit Kashmir.

Manila is great for a bachelor to visit if you avoid certain parts of town since the risk of kidnapping is high. If you are staying in Mikati at one of the 5 star hotels, get their advice on places to avoid. Only cross streets with the locals; traffic does not slow down for pedestrians.

Nothing wrong with Seoul if you avoid the student demonstrations. If you enjoy getting an adrenalin rush, go for a ride in the front seat of a Korean taxi.

You may want to reconsider vacationing in a bird-flu infested region. Incubation = 3 wks, plenty of time to spread it to your neighbors upon return.

You asked about foreign destinations. But if you vacation in the US, you really ought to think twice before spending your next vacation in East St. Louis, Illinois.

DO vacation in Alaska, but don't get between a bear sow and her cubs - it's less than healthy.

Best advice, is to read Robert Pelton's book.

Some more vacation planning considerations, Dragon77,

Communist nK:
If you visit Communist nK (you get there via Communist China), and you say less-than-kind things about the "dear leader," your vacation will turn unpleasant.

Thailand:
Bangkok is reported to be a great place to vacation. But if you decide to enjoy sex with the locals, the probability of catching AIDS is reported to be 50% - like playing Russian Roulette with a bullet in every other chamber.

India:
If you go to India, be careful, your job may get offshored to them. Nearly 2 million Americans have lost their jobs to India so far, projections are that 8-10 million Americans will get fired (in favor of India) by 2010.

Get your shot records updated for where-ever you want to go.

What places, Dragon77, ARE you thinking about visiting?

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