WAR: Series Of Explosions In Egypt Tourist Town

I'm just waiting for someone to start pinning this on Bush and/or Blair as well

My Local Newstation RTV Slovenija reports already 83 Dead and more then 200 Wounded....

The Responsibility for the Attack was taken by Briagde Abdulaha Azama, connected to Al-Qaeda.

They Said that the Attacks are the Answer to Crimes of International Forces of Evil, which are Spilling the Blood of Muslim People in Iraq, Afganistan and Chechniya.

[edit on 23/7/05 by Souljah]

Originally posted by AgentSmith
I'm just waiting for someone to start pinning this on Bush and/or Blair as well

Bush and Blair are in favour of al Qaeda because all terrorists and warmongers are now on the same side !!

I am not saying that they organised it , just that they love it and it plays right into their hands.

Originally posted by Roy Robinson Stewart
I am not saying that they organised it , just that they love it and it plays right into their hands.

Yep - I Agree with You here.

Altho I think that Al-Qaeda still has ALOT to do with CIA and other Intelligence Agencies...

I haven't heard of anyone claiming responsibility yet--has anyone else? Oops, I see someone has claimed responsibility.

Souljah - Do you have a link to the terror group?


[edit on 23-7-2005 by Astronomer68]

In a statement posted on an Islamic website, a group calling itself the Abdullah Azzam Brigades, al-Qaeda, in Syria and Egypt, said it carried out the bombings, the Associated Press news agency reported, although the claim has not been verified.

news.bbc.co.uk...

[edit on 23-7-2005 by infinite]

Originally posted by infinite
news.bbc.co.uk...

And on that link they now say 88 people dead and some 200 wounded.

This might go into tripple figures i really hope not, this news is so tragic

Rescue workers are still searching for victims at some attack scenes.
Iit was suspected that more casualties remained buried under the rubble of the collapsed buildings. The lobby of the 176-room Ghazala Gardens hotel in Sharm's Naama Bay, the main strip of hotels, collapsed into a pile of concrete


Information for for those who miss Israeli Citizens:

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I don't know how long this thread has been up, but here's the link to AOL's story on the bombing. Thankfully, the death toll has stalled at 88.

aolsvc.news.aol.com... 2191409990002&ncid=NWS00010000000001

What amazes me is that the terrorists KNOW killing tourists results in a fatal blow to a small town's economy. If their goal is to punish foreigners, why blow up tourists in a tiny town in Egypt??

Not ballsy enough to attack REAL fighters I suppose!

[edit on 23-7-2005 by Toelint]

AFP, are reporting that Dozens arrested in Sinia after Egypt attacks....


NO links as of yet,

Im sure more to come.....

Originally posted by infinite

the Abdullah Azzam Brigades,

The Abdullah Azzam Brigades, the terror group that claimed responsibility for both the Sharm e-Sheikh bombings and last October's attacks in Taba and Ras a-Satan, is named after Sheikh Abdullah Azzam, a Moslem leader, who was considered to have been largely responsible for expanding the jihad into a full-blown international holy war without borders.

[...]

The Juamada al Thani website quoted Azzam as once saying "Islamic history is not written except with the blood of the Shuhadaa, except with the stories of the Shuhadaa, and except with the examples of Shuhadaa."

Azzam was born in Silat A Hartiya near Jenin in 1941. [...]

In 1966 he received his Bachelor of Arts degree at the Sharia College at Damascus University. A year later, and after the Six Day War, Azzam moved to Jordan. He became active in the Jihad terror groups that opposed Israel's occupation. In the late Sixties he traveled to Egypt where he obtained his Masters Degree at the Al Azhar University in Cairo.

In 1970, when Jordan expelled all PLO elements from its territory, Azzam took up a teaching post in Amman. The following year he was awarded a scholarship at the Al Azhar University in Cairo. At some point he became disenchanted with the Jihad activities against Israel, believing that it was too far removed from the real Islam. He returned to the West Bank and from there traveled to Saudi Arabia where he took up a teaching position.

Convinced that only by means of military force could the "true Islam" become victorious, Azzam became one of the first Arabs to join the Afghan Jihad fighting against the Soviet forces who invaded Afghanistan in 1979. He left his teaching position in Saudi Arabia and traveled to Islamabad in Pakistan to be close to the Afghan Jihad. He lectured at the International Islamic University in Islamabad but later resigned to devote more time to the Jihad in Afghanistan.

In the early 1980's, Sheikh Abdullah Azzam immigrated with his family, and settled in Peshawar in Pakistan, to be closer to the front lines. In Peshawar, Azzam established the Office of Services of the Holy Warriors (Mujahideen) and set about re-igniting the Islamic power rage against those non-Islamic powers that had conspired against Islam since before the Crusades.

Azzam combined hatred for the West – Christians and Jews – whom he accused of carrying out conspiracies against Islam. Unsatisfied with the work, he traveled to Afghanistan to participate in the fighting. During the time he spent there, he rarely stayed in one place. He eventually returned to Peshawar, and was considered to be one of the key figures in promoting the Afghan cause amongst the Moslem world.

Azzam helped mobilize the Moslem Brotherhood and today in the West Bank, a Hamas cell is named after him.

Attending a conference in Brooklyn in the US in 1988, he called out to participants to carry out jihad no matter where. "Every Moslem on earth should unsheathe his sword and fight to liberate Palestine," he said.

He was killed a year later in a bomb blast near the mosque in Peshawar along with two of his sons. [...]

[edit on 23-7-2005 by Riwka]

Toelint, this attack is to punish Egypt for their involvement in the War on Terror and probably for helping the U.K. after the London bombings.

Not be shocked if Pakistan isn't next on the list.

Originally posted by Souljah
The Responsibility for the Attack was taken by Briagde Abdulaha Azama, connected to Al-Qaeda.

They Said that the Attacks are the Answer to Crimes of International Forces of Evil, which are Spilling the Blood of Muslim People in Iraq, Afganistan and Chechniya.

[edit on 23/7/05 by Souljah]

I doubt it was Azam Brigades, or Shaheed. These are HAMAS. Most likely this was Al-Jihad. Historically AJ operated in the Cairo area. Most AJ members today are outside Egypt in countries such as Afghanistan, Pakistan, Lebanon, the United Kingdom, and Yemen. AJ is linked and often confused with al-Qa’ida.

I believe this was Al-Jihad and they are just throwing off the scent to fractured HAMAS brigades.

Originally posted by vincere7
These are HAMAS. Most likely this was Al-Jihad.
I believe this was Al-Jihad and they are just throwing off the scent to fractured HAMAS brigades.

This is Hamas´ statement after the explosions:

Your post doesn't necessarily prove my belief, but I believe it's valid that this was Al-Jihad and not HAMAS. AJ are Egyptian and resorts were targeted for their foreign guests.

I added this edit, as you mistakenly thought I said these were HAMAS? The Azama Shaheed brigades are HAMAS, Al-Jihad are egyptian.


[edit on 23-7-2005 by vincere7]

Originally posted by vincere7
you mistakenly thought I said these were HAMAS? The Azama Shaheed brigades are HAMAS, Al-Jihad are egyptian.

You are right, sorry. I have to admit I´m not an expert on Hamas in any way. So the Azama Shaheed brigades are Hamas and the Al-Jihad is not. Now I know. Thanks.

Originally posted by csulli456
This is it. All hell has come loose now. I think it really is on right now.

It's been on pal.

Originally posted by csulli456
I think all these bombings in London and now Egypt the terrorists have turned up the heat on our behinds. I think it is all of a pre-military strike strategy. They are warming the world up to just how powerful and organized they still are even after having the world put its pressure on them. They are currently in the midst of much larger projects.

Slow down there, you're starting to flap good style. These bombings you're seeing is sappers reasserting targets out of theaters of operation (Iraq, Afghanistan). What this also proves is that the Jihadist network, as setup by Bin Laden is alive and well and ACTIVE. I have stressed over and over why it is important for civilians to become knowledgable of terror groups, names, and methods by which they mobilize logistics.

What the Egyptian and London bombings prove however, is that there exists an extensive active network. The groups are not hampered financially, and consistent attacks only proves that these networks are communicating and maneuvering internatinally through an ORGANIZED structure. This also means that Jihad groups are working together for a common goal. Bottomline, awareness on the part of civilians WILL SAVE LIVES.

A little background to understand the structure:

Ayman Mohammed Rabie al-Zawahiri, Egyptian. According to Arab analysts, al-Zawahiri was instrumental in forging the coalition of al-Jihad and Bin Ladens forces together under his banner of finances. "Mohammed Atta, the 33-year-old Hamburg-educated architect who the USA believes was at the controls of the hijacked American Airlines Flight 11 when it was the first to punch into the World Trade Center on 11 September, was one of at least two of the 19 hijackers who struck on that day believed to have been members of al-Jihad." Al-Zawahiri wrote several books on Islamic movements, the best known of which is The Bitter Harvest, a critical assessment of the Muslim Brotherhood. In January 2000 al-Zawahiri was one of several Islamic militants who had been granted green card status by the US Immigration Service.

The Egyptian influence is extensive. Sobhi al-Sitta, an Egyptian Islamist also known as Abu Hafas al-Masri, is the commander of the front’s military arm — known as the Islamic Army for the Liberation of the Holy Sites, which claimed responsibility for the 1998 embassy bombings in East Africa. One of al-Sitta’s daughters married Bin Laden’s son Mohammed in January 2001.

al-Zawahiri


"Other enterprises in Sudan included the Laden International import/export company; a bakery; a furniture company; the Bank of Zoological Resource cattle-breeding operation; and the International al-Ikhlar Co., which made honey and other sweets."

You can bet that much funding is coming from Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.

"The earliest version of an Islamist terrorist coalition led by Osama bin Laden was the International Islamic Front, a loose coalition founded in Saudi Arabia in August 1990, which included Egypt's Jihad and Jamaa Islamiya armed outfits, Jordan's Mohammad's Army, Jammu and Kashmir's Ansar Movement and several other factions, including the AI-Muhajirun."

Now what we have here is the Jihad Coalition much like the Allied Coalition, just smaller. Here are some Egyptian groups:

Egyptian Jihad Group (Jamaat-ul-Jihad),

Egyptian Armed Islamic Group (Gama'a al-Islamiya),


Bin Laden's International Islamic Front is in name, however I'm sure has broken into corporate structures in order to do business. As noted on specialoperations.com "US efforts to block al-Qaida funding has hampered al-Qaida's ability to obtain money." This is not true.

The current bombings suggest the network is funded, and now working outside the main theater of operations (Iraq) where they once focused attention. The New American Century think tank strategy was to bottleneck terrorists in a location where they can be fought and defeated. This is a flawed concept. You have the hydra head notion, but this really isn't the case either, as understood by the CT experts. When you chop cells and structures they must train new members, and find new funding.

What we see currently is not the case, of rolled up networks, but networks who have diverted funding and members to do COORDINATED harassment and interdiction. The cells ARE working in cohesion, materially, and structurally.

What I am saying is, if you interrupt the movement of one cell you may disturb the whole pattern as they are working together. The network is not "warming the world up" they are adapting to strategy.

Perhaps these terrible events will help forge a better working alliance between all the countries striving to eradicate terrorism. A much better coordinated response is clearly needed. The kicker here is going to be sharing intelligence available to various countries, as that requires a high degree of trust in one another. Mayby it's time to get the Israelis involved in all this business as they certainly have one of the best intel organizations around.

As much as it may gall everyone involved, I firmly believe serious economic aid to poor middle-east and south-east countries would go a long way towards curtailing the feelings of helplessness and despair that fuel the various terrorist movements. People who believe they have something to lose are not going to so readily become suicide bombers and terrorists.

[edit on 23-7-2005 by Astronomer68]

As I recall this Resort of Sharm Al-Sheik was Built by Isreal when they Occupied Sinai Peninsula in 1973 Yom Kippur War.