Any programmers here?

I asked this question elsewhere but it's hard to believe that there are no visitors who are also programmers.

There are several interesting projects that relate to "the conspiracy" which could be done by programming.

Plan on becoming a programmer after Highschool. Right now I'm just reading the dummies books on programming.


Nightwalker

Explain. I have been a programmer for 14 yrs.

I guess I count, having 20 years programming experience.

I have no idea what you are on about, though.

wow i just posted this question.

Okay. To make myself clear I'm not talking about hacking or anything damaging like that. More like automated open source tools that help people recognize patterns and allow for anonymous input. Let me throw out a few examples of how programming can help:


1. A neural net trained on HAARP flucuations in order to predict major events. Dragonrider maintiains that there was a link and is a link. If this is true than a program that takes in the data could provide an alert. HAARP flux is just one stream of data, you could insert other atomspheric data too so other correlations could be found. (Stock market, etc.)

2. Some kind of accountability network were the difference in what an official said was going to happen and what actually hapened was measured. This is a bit sci fi-ish but there should be a way to codify events so that relationships can be drawn between them. This gives rise to predictions.

3. A terrorism prediction network where the funds of "economic exchange" were creditbality points. So if you're right you get more creditablity points.

The really good thing about programming thigns like this is that if it's all open and people can input info anonymously, people can come out and reveal things that would be otherwise very diffcult to. For instance, if a terrorism prediction exchange market was up, then some one like WhispersInTheDark could have created an alias and gotten some major creditability points.

And that is how programming can help. Anyone interested? I'm sure something like this could take off as an OSS project.

1. Yup, If you mean the haarp in alaska that does some pretty bizzare environmental experiments, then yup, I've heard of this. Apparently, they can effectively punch a hole in the atmosphere right out to space, why I have no idea. I've speculated before that there could be some way of getting missiles into space quicker, but this is way out of my realms of knowlege.

2. I have no idea.

2. Getting software to predict a specific event is fairly unlikely. Trends can be predicted in most things and if enough crunching power and input data is provided, you can even get rough predictions. However, very clever minds have been working on this for years, and they can barely tell me what the weather will be doing tomorrow. I can't see how it could ever provide any real details about terrorism.

Oh for point 3 i meant the rejected Terrorist stock market. Just provide an open source alternative with anonymity, if one wishes. The "monetary unit" would be points of creditability. That way there's no cash involved. What's good enough for Homeland Security is good enough for me.

Point 1 and 2 are systems that infer patterns/relationships from data. If something looks interesting, the user could then examine the data making up that pattern. This is analogus to what humans do now, but at a much slower level: Look for information, store it in our heads, think about it all and say, "Aha!". We don't need magical AI or anything.


Obviously this stuff would require some new thinking (somewhat). It sounds like I would have to put some code up first before people really understood what I was talking about. Unfortunately I don't have the time, which is way I posted here.

I've been known to dable around in some programming, and scripting languages.

but I wouldn't call myself a programmer yet...

all my attempts at gui's have been known to blow stuff up in cleveland, and me and hex editors simply dont get along... either way I still try at programming (hey im improving...), and either way shift happens... so it balances out.

okay. The water seems warm. Let's see how far we can go.

I think an easy thing to do would be to use a nueral net on HAARP output and other siemographic/atomospheric data. It would need a continous stream of input and dates of when things happened (9/11, Earthquakes, 2003 Blackout, etc.) These events would be rated with a severity level. The idea is that a combination of data preludes huge events like this.

There are a lot of open source neural net implementations in many different languages. The main concern is what data to use and how to exactly to use it. I also wonder how time will play into this: Often times it's the sequence that is important, not neccessarilly the strength of data input.

I can go further with this if anyone is interested. I don't think I can actually do any programming but I can certainly offer adminstration and ideas, etc. Remember, on a large part, code would be recycled from OS code.

So is anyone interestd?

[Edited on 19-8-2003 by ktprktpr]

Yes I am. I know SQL, SQL*Plus, MySQL, and PL/SQL.
Oracle DB Structured Query Languange and Procedural Structured Query Language.

Okay.

Are we in agreement that HAARP, earthquakes and other earthly disturbances may prelude disasters?

If we are, let's get a listing of whats important. These are "inputs". I'll start it off:

1. Magnetic readings from HAARP stations
2. Recorded data of earthquake and earthquake tremors
3. Stock market flucuations or change in put/hold options

what else would be important data?

[edit- please excuse my horrible spelwering ]

[Edited on 19-8-2003 by ktprktpr]