Albert Pike's predictions of the three world wars

"I would never bow down to a pagan habit. worship faggot roman gods named after the planets".

I worship "faggot roman gods" . Thank you very much.

What did we fall for ?

It outlined a history of Albert Pike who was obviously a devil worshiper. Who cares if he had anything to do with the kkk or not ? He was still an evil guy whom worshiped the God of Masonry.

It's like saying Hitler was a Christian. I guess if you believe that then you would also believe that you can be a christian and a mason.

Rather "Ironic" isn't it

Enough said look at his record and his beliefs !

He was a great character of morality held high in regard by it's members within the community of the cult of masonry !

We should all be so proud !

Originally posted by Truthisoutthere
What did we fall for ?

For a Hoax perpetrated by Leo Taxil in the late 1800s! This is where all rumors of Pike being a satanist came from!

It outlined a history of Albert Pike who was obviously a devil worshiper. Who cares if he had anything to do with the kkk or not ? He was still an evil guy whom worshiped the God of Masonry.

Obviously a devil worshipper?!? Where do you get that from? Please provide your sources.

As for a "God of masonry", we have told you one thousand times that there is no such thing. Why do you INSIST on creating this fable?!? What the hell is wrong with you?!? Do you always ignore FACTS? Let me guess, the earth is only 6000 years old?

He was a great character of morality held high in regard by it's members within the community of the cult of masonry !

Freemasonry is not a cult. Again, why must you ignore FACTS?

www.masonicinfo.com...

And freemasonry is filled with some of the greatest, most moral men in the world. I would say this is a good thing.

We should all be so proud !

What do you have to be proud of? Ignorant beliefs?

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It's rather funny to see that the only sites that say that Freemasonry isn't a cult are masonic sites !

Here look at this search :

search.yahoo.com...



Here look at these for evidence of a cult:

www.freemasonrywatch.org...

www.newadvent.org...

The site above is relevant due that freemasonry is a pagan religion also known as a cult.

Originally posted by Truthisoutthere
It's rather funny to see that the only sites that say that Freemasonry isn't a cult are masonic sites !

Look at your links! You're telling me THOSE aren't biased?!? Gimme a break.

Here look at these for evidence of a cult:

An anti-masonic website and a fundamentalist christian website which is also anti-masonic. Very GOOD, non-biased links.

The site above is relevant due that freemasonry is a pagan religion also known as a cult.

So you're saying that Freemasonry is a cult because it's a cult? That makes no sense whatsoever, but, then again, nothing you've ever claimed makes sense. It's been MONTHS since we began arguing about this, and you have NEVER been able to tell me why you believe Freemasonry is a cult.

sebatwerk: "Truth, why is Freemasonry a cult?"

truthisoutthere: "Because it's a cult!"

:bnghd:

if all these claims of freemasons being a cult of evil and so forth are false, then where are the complete different histories that describe freemasons as honorable and dedicated members of the human race? Anything the world ever hears about this "secret society" involves the most negative concepts and ideals and its the only things we have to go on. So until you guys release a volume set on the official history of freemasonery we will have to assume that Albert Pike, Crowley, and the rest of them being tied into a secret society envisioning the destruction of man as your official policy.

cyphereal.net...

May you be right and I be wrong.

Originally posted by RebelSaint
if all these claims of freemasons being a cult of evil and so forth are false, then where are the complete different histories that describe freemasons as honorable and dedicated members of the human race? Anything the world ever hears about this "secret society" involves the most negative concepts and ideals and its the only things we have to go on. So until you guys release a volume set on the official history of freemasonery we will have to assume that Albert Pike, Crowley, and the rest of them being tied into a secret society envisioning the destruction of man as your official policy.

What are you talking about?!? There are thousands of books on Freemasonry, it's history, teachings, symbolis, ideals, goals and aims. It is one of the most well-documented groups in the world. The majority of information about Freemasonry is NOT negative, that is only the case in the places YOU look.

Start here:
en.wikipedia.org...

Then move onto here:
en.wikipedia.org...

Then when you have some time, read "The History of Freemasonry" by Albert Mackey, one of Freemasonry's greatest authors:

www.freemasons-freemasonry.com...

There are THOUSANDS of resources available online. Many have been created by and for Freemasons, but are available for anyone who is interested in Freemasonry.

For being such a secretive group, we sure have a lot of information available, dontcha think? Let me guess, the TRUTH has been hidden from us, and all this public information is just a lie, designed to hoodwink and deceive us, right? Please, believe me when I tell you that the one thing we Freemasons want is for the world to know the truth about us.

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As for the letter being discovered in 1949, does anyone have any background on this? To the best of my knowledge, David Allen Rivera is the source of this factoid. However, when contacted, Rivera was not able to recall his source for this information.

Also, anyone truly interested in this issue needs to familiarize themselves with the pranksterism of Leo Taxil. Taxil cooked up a lot of stuff in the late 1800s, including the apocryphal Pike quote that reads, "Yes, Lucifer is God, and unfortunately Adonay is also god." Many conspiracy "researchers" have dutifully attributed this quote to Pike in numerous conspiracy books. However, it was admitted to be a hoax more than 100 years ago.

There may indeed have been a plan for three world wars, but researchers will have to wade through loads of BS to get to the bottom of this one.

The story of the letter is actually two separate stories blended together.

One story is the alleged plan for three world wars. The earliest source I know of for the actual three-world-wars plan is William Guy Carr's book, "Pawns in the Game," published in 1958.

The second story is the alleged plan for a final revolution where the "nihilists and atheists" are unleashed. Whenever you see actual quotes from the alleged letter, this is the part is describes. This text can be traced back at least as far as a 1920 booklet "The Cause of World Unrest."

That booklet alleged that Pike had written Mazzini about a scenario where the Vatican would be exiled from Italy and would move to Russia, only to be toppled in Russia by a revolution. (See the Wikipedia entry for Albert Pike for details on this.)

It appears that, at some point, someone started quoting excerpts of the Russia-related letter and blended in a tale of three planned world wars. Researchers should focus on the period of 1949-1958 to begin to determine how the three-world-wars angle appeared and who fed the three-world-wars story to Carr.

Could it have possibly been Cold War propaganda cooked up sometime around the 1956 Suez-Sinai War?

either wether the letter was made up or not it is extremely accurate as to whats happening today i would say, also I think the knowledge and symbols in freemasonry like other mystery teachings can be used for good and evil, I belive theres a high change that at the top of the masonic pyramid you have your black magicians, in line with malevolent forces its just human nature to fall prey to the darker path especially during our current cycle of existence.

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"Well, hitler was a christian...."

Hitler was NOT a Christian; maybe a weak Catholic at best (but Catholics are not Bible-believing Christians). Also, he did not use "the Bible" as an excuse to kill the Jews. He used Darwinism and evolutionary ideas; saying that the Jews were an "inferior race", and he felt he was doing the human race a favor by killing them off because they were somehow a "less evolved species." Ridiculous. (These ideas carried over into the U.S. during the early 1900's, with southern "Eugenics" clinics; where people that were deemed "unfit" to reproduce were sterilized in the name of helping the human race to "evolve"... Absolutely absurd.

And lastly, just because someone *says* they are a Christian, does not make them a true Christian. People always say "Christianity is responsible for the death of millions." Nooo, those deaths came about by way of the CATHOLIC and PROTESTANT movements, not the true original born-again Christians. Jesus never instructed ANYONE to kill people for not being Christians. In fact He told people to PRAY for their enemies.

This plan for three world wars was IMO originally bluprinted by Julius Caesar and installed in your Bibles.

www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

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"Hitler would rail about how God the Creator is who has to be followed, that the jews were evil according to the bible,"

No no no no.... Where in the Bible does it say that the Jews are evil?? It's the exact OPPOSITE. The Jews are God's chosen people; not chosen because they are "special" in some way, but originally chosen to set an example to the world of how to live Godly lives. They were to be the ones to follow God's laws, and spread the gospel to the rest of the world; telling people to turn from their sins, and turn to God. Unfortunately they (as well as the rest of the world) continued to turn away from God, choosing their own way, and thus God had to come down and redeem mankind Himself (through the person of Jesus Christ, who was the prophesied Jewish messiah.) Anyway, as I was saying, the Jews, even though they too have veered from God's original plan, are still God's chosen people, and He still continues to bless them immensely (I don't know a poor Jew, do you? As funny as that sounds, I'm being serious... Every Jewish person I've met is usually doing pretty well.)

Thanks for bringing this up, this is very important.

He wrote the main script for the New World Order in three world wars while under Demonic influence. This letter was written before the events of the first two wars took place and even before Israel was a country.

Its what he says about WWIII which is interesting. I feel we are seeing the outcome of that aspect unfold everyday. How much worse will things get?

I feel that WWIII will only be seen as a world war by those in the now, in control, because it will be so much worse then any war before it. It will be the war to end all wars, it will be Armageddon as the Bible says.

oh yeah, the Bible really describes the future in detail as well.
Dont forget about Pike too, he was a 33rd degree Freemason who created the KKK and was in contact with demonic forces. He is an exalted leader of Freemasonry. Don't discount anything he has written and done.


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Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
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"Well, hitler was a christian...."

Hitler was NOT a Christian; maybe a weak Catholic at best (but Catholics are not Bible-believing Christians). Also, he did not use "the Bible" as an excuse to kill the Jews. He used Darwinism and evolutionary ideas; saying that the Jews were an "inferior race", and he felt he was doing the human race a favor by killing them off because they were somehow a "less evolved species." Ridiculous. (These ideas carried over into the U.S. during the early 1900's, with southern "Eugenics" clinics; where people that were deemed "unfit" to reproduce were sterilized in the name of helping the human race to "evolve"... Absolutely absurd.

And lastly, just because someone *says* they are a Christian, does not make them a true Christian. People always say "Christianity is responsible for the death of millions." Nooo, those deaths came about by way of the CATHOLIC and PROTESTANT movements, not the true original born-again Christians. Jesus never instructed ANYONE to kill people for not being Christians. In fact He told people to PRAY for their enemies.

Hitler was actually a "Jew", well, He was a Nazi. A Nazirate, a Nazairine,
a Ashkenazim.

heres some insight:











Thats why there was a Holocaust, a Religious sacrificial offering.


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"Furthmore, Christianity is responsible for the deaths of millions. "

These deaths were brought about by the Catholic and Protestant movements, NOT by true born-again, Bible-believing followers of Christ. Catholicism is very different from Christianity; it is a blend of pagan religions made to look like Christianity (which can be dated all the way back to Semiramis and Tammuz as the original Mother-Child cult.) Nowhere in the Bible does Jesus instruct people to kill non-believers. In fact He even told people to pray for their enemies! Just because someone says they are a Christian, does not make them a true born-again Christian.

As for which religion is true? No religion is the Truth. Religions are just man-made ways of reaching God thru works-righteous systems. Trying to learn about God thru religion is like trying to learn about history thru a Hollywood movie. People always lump born-again Christians in with other religious groups, when the true Christian faith is not a "religion". ALL religions of the world teach that you can earn your way to heaven thru good works, rituals, traditions, etc. The truth is is that we can NOT earn our way to heaven. We have all broken God's law and deserve to be punished (just as a criminal deserves to go to jail), and because we can not save ourselves, God (thru the person of Jesus Christ) came down and took our punishment for us so that we can have a way of being forgiven. All that is required of us is that we ACKNOWLEDGE that we are sinners, ACCEPT His gift to us by the shedding of His blood, turn from our sins and follow Him. Christianity is not a religion because it is not works-based, we are saved by God's GRACE thru FAITH. (Ephesians 2:8-9)

And there ARE ways of knowing which faith is the TRUE faith because God, out His love for us, would have certainly made a way for us to know what is true, and what is not. The way to know is through Bible prophecy (Google Bible prophecy.) The Bible is the ONLY book in history to write history in advance. The Bible is 1/3 prophetic; containing thousands of prophecies (detailed predictions) concerning Israel, the rise and fall of empires, the coming Messiah, and even many events that are taking place today (like the situation in the middle-east, the coming N.W.O., the coming one-world government and monetary system.) It even predicted the rebirth of Israel; Israel was destroyed as a nation 2,000 years ago, and the Bible predicted that one day Israel would be reborn in a single day! Which it did, on May 14th, 1948). It even predicted small details like how the once desolate, barren land of Israel would one day "supply the world with fruit" and it would "blossom as a bud". Today Israel is the world's third largest supplier of fruit, and I believe the 2nd largest supplier of flowers to Europe. So... google Bible prophecy... It's pretty amazing. - Peace

the planets are named after them....fwiw.

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by Nygdan

 

Hitler was NOT a Christian; maybe a weak Catholic at best (but Catholics are not Bible-believing Christians). Also, he did not use "the Bible" as an excuse to kill the Jews. He used Darwinism and evolutionary ideas; saying that the Jews were an "inferior race", and he felt he was doing the human race a favor by killing them off because they were somehow a "less evolved species." Ridiculous.

Hitler believed in a corrupted and Germanized version of HP Blavatsky's Theosophy called Thule. Basically blending New age aquarian ideals with Norse Paganism and certain suedo "Templar" rites. Hitler and the SS in particular used Blavatsky's writings about the "Aryan races superiority" as a justification for liquidating the Jews of whom were deeply resented by many Germans for their percieved role in the treaty of Versailles and Zionism. It should be noted that Blavatsky's writings about the Aryan's in no way espoused killing anyone. en.wikipedia.org...

Now, there were Jews (Rothschilds) who did purposely weaken Germany and incite hatred towards the Jews to Justify the existance of Israel. This does'nt mean that Jews are to blame only a corrupt few. Hitler (who was part Jewish some say having illigitemate familiar ties with The Rothschilds simply capitalized on this feeling and used it as a release for the German people's pent up frustrations in their defeat and humiliation during WW1.

www.threeworldwars.com...

Wow, the events blueprint by Albert Pike in that letter match
perfectly with everything that happened, since ww1.

Israel will then, start WW3

Wow...so many polar opposite views that its funny in here...almost always the truth is in the middle somewhere...

Oxford Dictionary

cult

• noun 1 a system of religious worship directed towards a particular figure or object. 2 a small religious group regarded as strange or as imposing excessive control over members. 3 something popular or fashionable among a particular section of society.

Based on this...
1. Freemasonry is a cult...this is no value judgment call...it is an organized system with quasi-religious elements and rituals...

Don't argue your point by directing us to a masonic site...or an anti-masonic site...

Masons are not devil-worshippers but they do follow silly rituals based on pagan imagery…the lamb skin apron (and others like the evergreen branches) – are symbols taken from pagan significance or in Freemasonry’s own terms 'more ancient than the golden fleece or star and garter…’ That is to say they are older than Christianity – or pagan since the symbols were appropriated from polytheistic belief systems…
But this in itself is not that uncommon since many Christian holidays like Easter are based on pagan rituals…not the content of the rituals mind you but the names and time periods…Easter derived from the pagan holiday celebration for springtime, which celebrated the new harvests in N. Europe. The holiday celebrated springtime and its bounty by praying to Eostre, the goddess of birth and things of that nature. In order for the Christian religion to spread this kind of appropriation was common and helped convert many pagans by ‘meeting them halfway’ and making it easier to believe by giving them an entirely new set of beliefs where some of the outward appearance (rituals and symbols) contained hints of familiarity…
2. Christianity is also a cult...and early Christians were proud of the fact they had to worship 'underground'...and have secret signs and ways of identifying each other...because they were revolutionaries...oppressed by the Roman Empire...and proud to worship Jesus under the threat of death...they were, simply put, hardcore and something to be admired not falsely denied…
3. To say Christianity is not responsible for millions of deaths is not only false, but weak thinking and harmful…equating the argument that a “gun doesn’t kill people it’s the person holding the gun” is silly…a gun is an object…Christianity is a set of beliefs that inform a person’s identity and therefore their intention (I’m using intention in a general sense akin to the ideology of Althussier)…
Missionary attitudes were formed within Christianity…by Christians…’spread the word at the point of the sword if necessary’…to cover your ears and claim: “I worship peacefully and my community would never do such a thing,” does not change the fact that it was done by Christians in Christianity’s name…
All major religions (except Buddhism) can be accused of massive violent engagements made in the name of that particular faith…does that mean these faiths are inherently and necessarily violent? No…it just means one should face the music and truthfully and maturely accept reality…not pick and choose like a child who wants his/her side to be flawless…while Jesus is divine and perfect…Christianity as established and perpetuated by mortal man is not…and guilty of many bad things…and really great ones too…
4. To say Catholics aren’t Christians is one the stupidest things I hear. This is not an insult but a well thought out and reasoned response to the claim. Almost EVERYTHING Christians believe is due to the Catholic Church, that organization that was Christianity in its entirety for hundreds of years including the crucial beginning. Protestants did break away and establish a new sub thread of Christianity…changed some things here and there but the bones remained the same. The very concept of Jesus’ divinity (his role within the trinity NOT whether he was divine since this was assumed), the existence of the trinity, and many other beliefs were never automatically assumed…they were decided upon with votes within the Catholic Church many, many years after Jesus had left Earth…
These facts are not a matter of faith…but of history (not taken from the Da Vinci Code which is full of errors)…check this link out for a comparison between fact and fiction in the Da Vinci Code here:
goodnotsafe.com...
5. The Pike statement at start of thread is completely silly…
Pike's Letter to Mazzini
“It is a commonly believed fallacy that for a short time, the Pike letter to Mazzini was on display in the British Museum Library in London, and it was copied by William Guy Carr, former Intelligence Officer in the Royal Canadian Navy. The British Library has confirmed in writing to me that such a document has never been in their possession. Furthermore, in Carr's book, Satan, Prince of this World, Carr includes the following footnote:
‘The Keeper of Manuscripts recently informed the author that this letter is NOT catalogued in the British Museum Library. It seems strange that a man of Cardinal Rodriguez's knowledge should have said that it WAS in 1925’.
It appears that Carr learned about this letter from Cardinal Caro y Rodriguez of Santiago, Chile, who wrote The Mystery of Freemasonry Unveiled.
To date, no conclusive proof exists to show that this letter was ever written. Nevertheless, the letter is widely quoted and the topic of much discussion.”
It is the result of Pike’s legacy of trying to undermine Catholic doctrine (positing subversive Freemason ideals which necessarily undermine Catholic and many Protestant organized religion) and the need for the Catholic Church to demonize this legacy…which paradoxically gives the man’s legacy more power than it would have had otherwise…
6. I literally don’t know what I’m talking about