Could Giza be the Real Jerusalem?

www.geocities.com...

[edit on 27-7-2005 by John bull 1]

can geocities with a comic layout reprecent a reliable source?

Originally posted by bisonn
can geocities with a comic layout reprecent a reliable source?

Is it not a possible view?

Should you not look at everything? Evaluate instead of passing judgement?

What is this person is in fact correct, however he has not yet got his book published? Such things are not easy.

P.S: If you check the link it is sources to several other sites, which are privately owned. Help any?

Well as far as just the layout goes, the "Lord's House" complex looks similar to the ziggurats used by many Canaanite religions. The speculations as to a relationship with Judea in the maps seem plausible.... But why, then, were there multiple pyramids? (I hope I'm interpreting this correctly)

Originally posted by Odium
What is this person is in fact correct, however he has not yet got his book published? Such things are not easy.

No intentions of publication. Time will tell if I am correct.

No, because Giza, the pyriamids, Egypt, and Pharaoh are all mentioned by name in the Old testament, book of Exodus. Jerusalem is separate from Giza.

Originally posted by Loki
No, because Giza, the pyriamids, Egypt, and Pharaoh are all mentioned by name in the Old testament, book of Exodus. Jerusalem is separate from Giza.

care to indicate passages?

Sure, give me about 30 minutes, I'm rather rusty with the book.

Ooh, looks like I may have been mistaken.

The Bible does not mention the Great Pyramid of Egypt although it did exist long before Israel came into Egypt and was there when Joseph and Mary brought the Messiah into Egypt at His birth (Matt. 2:13).

Sorry about that.

But The bible does talk about Egypt being separate from Jerusalem.

In Matthew 28:53, it speaks about the dead rising from their graves after Jesus' death, and going into the City of Jerusalem. It also speaks earlier in the same book of Egypt, which to me, indicates a sense of separation of the two, due to the book of Matthew all being of the same author.

[edit on 7-15-2005 by Loki]

Egypt in the King James Bible

However, I could not find Giza and the Pyramids when I searched through the book.

I know parts of todays Egypt was in fact part of Isreal as were all the countries that border around it. Its a shame that greed has spoilt the original Isreal and turned it into a county for a country.

The Egyptians got their knowledge from the Isrealites as God guided them the knowledge was given to escape slavery. It depends on your view, I see it as written in the Bible and people see it as what they can pick up from artifacts meaning the Isrealites got their knowledge from the Egyptians and Babylonians, but I rather to stick to the Bible rather than piecing together bits of story.

Edited my last post, have a look.

Originally posted by Loki

In Matthew 28:53, it speaks about the dead rising from their graves after Jesus' death, and going into the City of Jerusalem.

It does not mention "Jerusalem", it says the "the holy city" Ch 27, btw.

Originally posted by The time lord
I know parts of todays Egypt was in fact part of Isreal as were all the countries that border around it. Its a shame that greed has spoilt the original Isreal and turned it into a county for a country.

The key to understanding the two in Scripture is deciphering which is literal; which is metaphoric; and which is plagiaristic.

I doubt there's any doubt about where Jerusalem is as it has never been "lost", to begin with.

Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
I doubt there's any doubt about where Jerusalem is as it has never been "lost", to begin with.

I doubt your doubt.
David's Jerusalem: Fiction or Reality?

Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
I doubt there's any doubt about where Jerusalem is as it has never been "lost", to begin with.

TC, you are absolutely right! Further more, Israel was held captive by Egypt and God delivered them from Pharoah. Scripture passage follows:

OLD TESTAMENT

14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. 15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.

16 Go, and gather the elders of Israel together, and say unto them, The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, of Isaac, and of Jacob, appeared unto me, saying, I have surely visited you, and seen that which is done to you in Egypt: 17 And I have said, I will bring you up out of the affliction of Egypt unto the land of the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, unto a land flowing with milk and honey. 18 And they shall hearken to thy voice: and thou shalt come, thou and the elders of Israel, unto the king of Egypt, and ye shall say unto him, The LORD God of the Hebrews hath met with us: and now let us go, we beseech thee, three days' journey into the wilderness, that we may sacrifice to the LORD our God. 19 And I am sure that the king of Egypt will not let you go, no, not by a mighty hand. 20 And I will stretch out my hand, and smite Egypt with all my wonders which I will do in the midst thereof: and after that he will let you go. 21 And I will give this people favour in the sight of the Egyptians: and it shall come to pass, that, when ye go, ye shall not go empty: 22 But every woman shall borrow of her neighbour, and of her that sojourneth in her house, jewels of silver, and jewels of gold, and raiment: and ye shall put them upon your sons, and upon your daughters; and ye shall spoil the Egyptians. Ex 3:16-22

1 And afterward Moses and Aaron went in, and told Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Let my people go, that they may hold a feast unto me in the wilderness. 2 And Pharaoh said, Who is the LORD, that I should obey his voice to let Israel go? I know not the LORD, neither will I let Israel go. Ex 4:1-2

NEW TESTAMENT

And when they were departed, behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him. Matthew 2:13

Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers In the day that I took them by the hand to lead them forth out of the land of Egypt; For they continued not in my covenant, And I regarded them not, saith the Lord. Hebrews 8:9

And their dead bodies [lie] in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified. Rev 11:8

Egypt and Pharoah are mentioned too many times in the Bible for me to add them all here, but you get the picture: Egypt was the represser and persecutor of Israel, Jerusalem was built by the Jews after they left Egypt-
at least 2 or more centuries later.

Enough said? I hope so.

Lightseeker

[edit on 7/15/2005 by lightseeker]

Your scripture passages I adhere to as much as yourself.

The geography you interpret as Egypt and Israel however, I question.

True Egypt is south(Upper Kingdom). True Israel is northern Egypt(Lower)

Matthew 2:13 is fulfillment of Hosea 11:1. God's Son(Jesus) went to "Egypt"(True Israel).

Rev 11:8 is indicative of that filthy city known as modern "Jerusalem". It is spiritually like Sodom and Egypt. This verse you mention contradicts your position.

Enough said? I hope so.

If this thread ends on your feeble contest, I misjudged everyone's intelligence.


[edit on 15-7-2005 by CyrusTheShepherd]

Something I need answer:

Was Egypt not split up though into two parts during the time that they would have been there?

Originally posted by CyrusTheShepherd

Enough said? I hope so.

If this thread ends on your feeble contest, I misjudged everyone's intelligence.

[edit on 15-7-2005 by CyrusTheShepherd]

When it comes to my belief in God and my faith in Jesus Christ, I, thankfuly, do not have to rely on my own intelligence, but, rather on the wisdom of God and the Holy Spirit. What's your excuse?

When it comes to my belief in God and my faith in Jesus Christ, I, thankfuly, do not have to rely on my own intelligence, but, rather on the wisdom of God and the Holy Spirit. What's your excuse?