It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Originally posted by TruthCanHurt
How can you all be deceived so easily? How hard is it to come up with
some "experts" that debunk a video. Some "reporters" to "investigate"
the person taking the video and post some bogus stories about him. And
then kidnap (left town without telling anyone) the dude so he never
surfaces again to be a problem.
Oh yea, and then post date some search engine "stories" or "web site pages"
that were created the day after the event to make the guy look like a total
fraud.
Your only evidence are "stories" that were posted on the Internet. Some with
official sounding credentials. How do any of you know what is real?
when you've been deceived? .
Originally posted by Worldblend
To summarize, we have all been deceived, but your wisdom protects you from manipulation of this kind. None of us grasps reality, but you have a strong hold on it. Hmmmm, I don't know about this
Originally posted by Worldblend
However, I do know the producer. I do know the person who analized the video. I do know them both to be fair and knowledgable people.....these are no debunkers.
Originally posted by Vis Mega
You STARTED a thread... on an existing subject... just to curse us ALL out for ALL being STUPID and ALL BEING DUPED...
Originally posted by Vis Mega
I think the only one duped here is YOU.. by the obvious propaganda ploy of whoever it is that is trying to cover this incident up
Originally posted by Vis Mega
But thanks for the thread topic to tell us all we are stupid.
We already knew that (contrary to our limited intellect) but thank you anyways for the heads up.
Originally posted by TruthCanHurt
Actually, the thread was started to discuss knowledge of the truth in
reference to the Phoenix video. It is my belief that it is not possible
to accept with 100% certainty any of the "facts" being reported.
Originally posted by jritzmann
Nobody comes up with Jim's answers but Jim. My opinion is Dilettoso is trying to reinvent himself into being legitimate by saying the video is hoaxed.
My stance is that it most likely is, but who knows if I'll *ever* get a direct dub at this point, after I asked the questions I did of the shooter, only to be dropped like a hot potato when I did? I'll probably never see it.
I also dont have the time to travel to Pheonix (altho I'd love to..I love Pheonix). The pattern of behavior described by the shooter's critics matches what I experienced, perfectly. I have no reason to doubt their statements.
The video is a different story, will I ever get it? No idea. Doesnt matter one way or the other to me, I've been knee deep in a case for over 2 months that sucks up the majority of my time. If anyone does actually get it, and wants to make me a dub, I'll have a look.
I really wish that when someone shoots a video of a UFO they'd have it thoroughly examined by more then a few analyists before they post it on the net. It doesnt do anything but make a mess when it's "direct to web".
Originally posted by Worldblend
The video that was used for analysis was not an internet copy. It was captured from the camera while it played at the studio. This may seem like a copy to sum, but it is first generation.
Originally posted by jritzmann
Originally posted by TruthCanHurt
Actually, the thread was started to discuss knowledge of the truth in
reference to the Phoenix video. It is my belief that it is not possible
to accept with 100% certainty any of the "facts" being reported.
Well, with certainty I can say the shooter cut off all contact with my after I asked the pointed questions about him and the video. Before that, he responded to every email, within an hour.
So whats more likely, that he doesnt want to answer, or that he was kidnapped.
Originally posted by jritzmann
My stance is that it most likely is, but who knows if I'll *ever* get a direct dub at this point, after I asked the questions I did of the shooter, only to be dropped like a hot potato when I did? I'll probably never see it.
Originally posted by jritzmann
I've been knee deep in a case for over 2 months that sucks up the majority of my time.
Originally posted by TruthCanHurt
Originally posted by jritzmann
Originally posted by TruthCanHurt
Actually, the thread was started to discuss knowledge of the truth in
reference to the Phoenix video. It is my belief that it is not possible
to accept with 100% certainty any of the "facts" being reported.
Well, with certainty I can say the shooter cut off all contact with my after I asked the pointed questions about him and the video. Before that, he responded to every email, within an hour.
So whats more likely, that he doesnt want to answer, or that he was kidnapped.
All we can say for sure is that he does not answer. Whether by choice
or not is speculation.
Originally posted by jritzmann
My stance is that it most likely is, but who knows if I'll *ever* get a direct dub at this point, after I asked the questions I did of the shooter, only to be dropped like a hot potato when I did? I'll probably never see it.
If you do receive a dub and the video is a fake you'll likely only receive the
parts of the video we've already seen. Without a baseline direct from the
camera to compare against the copy you receive may not be very useful.
Originally posted by jritzmann
The video is a different story, will I ever get it? No idea. Doesnt matter one way or the other to me, I've been knee deep in a case for over 2 months that sucks up the majority of my time.
Originally posted by Dr Love
Originally posted by jritzmann
The video is a different story, will I ever get it? No idea. Doesnt matter one way or the other to me, I've been knee deep in a case for over 2 months that sucks up the majority of my time.
Fill us in J-ritz. Can you give us the background of the case you're working on without divulging any of the particulars? C'mon.........throw us a bone.
Peace
Originally posted by jritzmann
And, despite the fact the "dub" might be edited, which I believe would be the case, there would still be enough clarity to establish whats going on.