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Originally posted by Zaphod58
It ain't worth it anymore. No matter how much evidence we could find, or how many experts that had nothing to gain from this we talked to, it would never be a good enough explanation.
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Originally posted by billybob
muaddib, i am not wrong. i'm not going to bother giving you any more physics lessons, though, because you're a rude student that doesn't know how to listen.
Originally posted by billybob
p.s. you can call me hillbilly boy all you like. it won't change history. or your science grade.
Wave-Particle Duality
Publicized early in the debate about whether light was composed of particles or waves, a wave-particle dual nature soon was found to be characteristic of electrons as well. The evidence for the description of light as waves was well established at the turn of the century when the photoelectric effect introduced firm evidence of a particle nature as well. On the other hand, the particle properties of electrons was well documented when the DeBroglie hypothesis and the subsequent experiments by Davisson and Germer established the wave nature of the electron.
Originally posted by billybob
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there was molten steel in the basement five weeks later. it's a fact. look it up yourself. it's been postsed and reposted here enough.
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Originally posted by Muaddib
I already posted the explanation in one of my responses in the last page.
If it is disinfo as you claim, why can't you debunk it excerpting scientific journals, or scientific websites?.....
Originally posted by Muaddib
i am not seeing any facts being posted about the molten pools of steel which were kept in a molten state for 5 weeks....all i see are claims....
Originally posted by Muaddib
Sound, is a form of energy, and just like any other form of energy, it cannot be either created nor destroyed, it already exists in a constant wave spectrum, which changes when an opposite vibrating force is applied to this constant wave spectrum, or when the interaction is between two waves.
Originally posted by Zaphod58
I'll stick to the weapons, and aviation forums where people have RESPECT for each other.
Originally posted by Zaphod58
"what i am calling disinfo, is the whole official story, and disinformationalists are those who support it. some are paid, and some are just media marionettes that can't think for themselves. which one are you?"
That sure doesn't sound like you were just talking to him. And I said the FORUMS. What do the forums have to do with actual weapons other than talking about them?
Originally posted by billybob
man, that's sad. your media mommy's milk won't pour from my cup.
let's clear something up, though. i never said the wave/particle duality was bunk. i said it's COMPLETELY IRRELEVENT to this discussion.
I already forwarded this e-mail to him several weeks ago..
No more forwards from now on'
Thx,
Moises
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 2:41 AM
To: Moises Perez
Subject: Internet User...
Mr. Tully,
There have been some "rumors" going around the internet, mostly in
conspiracy sites, that you have made claims that you found "pools of
molten steel at ground zero which were kept in a molten state for up to
5 weeks."
I am contacting you, trying to find out whether these claims are true,
and if the claims are true, what exactly was it that you found, and how
is it possible for the steel to be kept in a molten state so long
without a source of power to keep it in that liquid state.
I thank you for your time, and await your response.
Sincerely
Luis R. Cardenas.
The wave-particle duality of electrons has everything to do with this topic....
since you, and some other member/s, are claiming that energy would be lost to be transformed into sound....which is not true, because a) energy is never lost, it continues transforming,
and b) because of the wave-particle duality that has been confirmed in electrons, we know that no amount of energy is transformed into sound, because the wave form of electrons already exists naturally. The only thing that occurs is because of the wave properties of electrons, when the mass of two objects crash, they produce vibrations, which are sounds...the faster and the bigger the mass of the objects that crash, the bigger the vibration/sound will be....
You can't debunk what i said by corroborating from scientific websites, simply because what I am saying is true.
nobel.scas.bcit.ca...
Law of Conservation of Energy
states that energy can be neither created nor destroyed. It can only be changed from one form to another (ie - from kinetic energy to potential energy or vice versa).
You can't debunk what i said by corroborating from scientific websites, simply because what I am saying is true.
www.drgdiaz.com...
First, it is important to understand the definition of sound. Let's see two definitions of sound:
1. Simple definition: Sound is the perception of vibrations stimulating the ear
2. Scientific definition of sound: sound is a periodic disturbance in fluids density, or in the elastic strain of a solid, generated by a vibrating object. These waves (vibrations) propagate in two basic ways: longitudinal waves and transverse waves.
If you want to check if I have a degree in engineering, you can go to your nearest library and request a copy of The National Dean's List (2002-2003)
In page 59 you will find that I, Luis R. Cardenas, have a degree in Engineering. I am allowing, whoever has the power in this site, to confirm that my name is Luis R. Cardenas.
Originally posted by SMR
If he sends back a response stating that he did indeed see pools of molten steel, or what used to be, will you still think otherwise, and will you posted it? Will you submit it unaltered?
Originally posted by Muaddib
BTW, i made certain that you can verify that I do have an engineering degree. I expect all these people claiming they know what they are talking about to do the same. Let's see what degrees you all have that, according to you, makes the evidence and information i have provided as junk and false science. Or as the phrase goes, "put your money where your mouth is."
[edit on 30-6-2005 by Muaddib]