Chemtrails Don't Exist? Haha, Explain This.

I was out watering my "garden". wink wink. It was about 6 am. As I was walking back to my house I happened to look up. I saw a plane flying over head, nothing special...but I noticed the trail it was leaving directly over my house and fairly low. The trail from where I was looked like it covered my half / side of town. I had read up on chemtrails alittle bit, so I diecided to grab a pillow and I then laid down and watch the trail "evolve" in the sky. It looked exactly like this



I watched the plane fly into the horizon, it was still making a trail, but the trail disipated after 5 seconds. The trail over my head stayed.

After about an hour, the trail eventually turned into this.



It grew and turned into a sort of misty looking cloud, no real form to it, it was like someone sprayed a giant water bottle into the air.

I got bored, and went inside. I told my g/f about it, and she thought I was crazy, but she had an open mind. Later on that night before hte sun went down she came over. I met her in the drive way and said LOOK!...because there was 2 more in the sky a far amount of distance away, they both looked like telephone cords, those swirly cords again.

We started watching a movie, then a freak storm rolled in, it lasted about 15 minutes, lightning thunder, the whole thing. We both love the rain, so we decided to go outside and run around in it.

The next day we both had massive headaches, headaches last usually... a day? We had these headaches for 3 days. I get headaches often, but they go away when I sleep. And my g/f rarely gets headaches.

So explain the weird "contrails", a freak storm that lasted 15 minutes, and a 3 day headache shared by 2 people.

[edit on 13-6-2005 by Bane Of Your Existence]

Originally posted by Bane Of Your Existence
I was out watering my "garden". wink wink.

Well.........

I watched the plane fly into the horizon, it was still making a trail, but the trail disipated after 5 seconds. The trail over my head stayed.

Diff-er-ent al-ti-tudes.

... they both looked like telephone cords, those swirly cords again.

Google is your friend.

We started watching a movie, then a freak storm rolled in, it lasted about 15 minutes, lightning thunder, the whole thing.

Im sure if you had checked the radar you would have seen it coming.

The next day we both had massive headaches, headaches last usually... a day? We had these headaches for 3 days. I get headaches often, but they go away when I sleep. And my g/f rarely gets headaches.

So explain the weird "contrails", a freak storm that lasted 15 minutes, and a 3 day headache shared by 2 people.

Perhaps your chemical fertilizers are adversely affecting your 'crop'

Different Altitudes? The trail didnt even look the same as it did when it was being pumped over head.

I just found it odd, that the storm followed the path of the chemtrails. I know the wind generally flows from west to east where I live, but this traveled north. Not that odd, it happens.

Chemical Fertilizers? The only thing I use is "Miracle-Gro". I doubt that has any harmful side effects, especially 12 hours later, after I have washed my hands countless times.

Originally posted by Bane Of Your Existence
Different Altitudes? The trail didnt even look the same as it did when it was being pumped over head.

Yes, it doesn't look the same because of the differnt altitudes. The air isn't the same at mulitple altitudes. The air can be more turbulent higher up. So that could be why one contrail is thin and the other spread out.

As for you headache well... There's a ton of reasons why one might have had a headache. Seeing as how a storm came in, the air pressure probably changed. Just a guess on my part though.

That is a classic example of the effects of a wake vortex on a contrail.


BTW, please clarify something for me. You are claiming that the contrail looked likethe picture above, (from Will Thomas’s site) and that the second picture is one that you took?


Also, I would suggest you google the following term ”supersaturation with respect to ice”

If you can understand how that works, you will have taken the first step in freeing yourself from the bondage of the chemtrail hoax.

It grew and turned into a sort of misty looking cloud, no real form to it, it was like someone sprayed a giant water bottle into the air.

Yeah, it's already been said....different altitudes.

Let's play a game. Throw your shoe across the room.....keep the other one on. Which looks bigger? The shoe you have on...no?

I got bored, and went inside. I told my g/f about it, and she thought I was crazy

Gee, I wonder why (don't take offense, Im joking)

Oh, and BTW, persistent contrail formation is often seen in advance of a cold front.

More info on supersaturation and contrails.

www.copernicus.org...

www.pa.op.dlr.de...

students.ou.edu...

www.contrails.nl...

www.aero-net.org...

as far as the headaches go, stop smoking from metal, paper or wood, use glass only ! and no butane lighters, wood matches !


I thought the chemtrail thingy gave people flu-like respiratory problems ?


and what about the question of concentration ? what kind of dosage could you be subjected to from that distance ? think about it, if they got the batch wrong, the wind, the weather, they mght kill 20,000 people........even bush would know thats a bad thing

I had a similiar situation, and after much research, have found these to be common meterological situations...

however...

there are occassionaly scientific experiments in aerosol markers, weather control, radiation fallout localization...and so forth...

but the fact that these tests are usually reported to FAA officials and media, prevent them from being called "chemtrails" since they are usually distributed by PROPELLER planes that do not otherwise give off contrails...

so don't let a fuzzy contrail scare you... its when the propeller planes start contrailing that I would be grabbing the gas masks and run for cover

Originally posted by LazarusTheLong
so don't let a fuzzy contrail scare you... its when the propeller planes start contrailing that I would be grabbing the gas masks and run for cover

AAAAAHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH

Man - if I had a quarter for every kook out there who brings up these chemtrail conspiracies!

Sheesh!!

However - I'm not denying the U.S. Govt. wont occassionally spray some civilian area with dangerous chemicals - paraquat being a prime example..

But some kind of massive conspiracy to dose us all... pleasee...

Originally posted by TruthMagnet
However - I'm not denying the U.S. Govt. wont occassionally spray some civilian area with dangerous chemicals - paraquat being a prime example..

But some kind of massive conspiracy to dose us all... pleasee...

You're probably right, and as I have pointed out in the past the US military is spraying (or assisting in the spraying) of Colombian villagers with noxious chemicals in an attempt to destroy the coca crop (obviously working very well judging by the world wide shortage of coc aine - not). However these chemtrail conspiricy kooks aren't interested in that, as it is common knowledge and therefore they can't live in their fantasy of "knowing something the general public doesn't", and feeling clever about it.

Also, strangely enough, the US military spraying isn't done at 30,000ft in conditions that would ensure that the trail of chemicals persisted in the sky. They seem to be using the plan of flying at low altitudes making sure that the chemicals actually settle onto their intended targets. They must be fools.

Originally posted by HowardRoark

Originally posted by LazarusTheLong
so don't let a fuzzy contrail scare you... its when the propeller planes start contrailing that I would be grabbing the gas masks and run for cover

AAAAAHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH RUN... THE HUNS ARE COMING... THE HUNS ARE COMING.... AND THEY ARE BRINGING......
SMOG

[edit on 14-6-2005 by LazarusTheLong]

Chemtrails exist.

It is a process called geoengineering and you can find a patent for it.

Originally posted by SebAll
Chemtrails exist.

It is a process called geoengineering and you can find a patent for it.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! oh, howard. spin it, baby. i know you will.

[edit on 14-6-2005 by billybob]

Originally posted by billybob

Originally posted by SebAll
Chemtrails exist.

It is a process called geoengineering and you can find a patent for it.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! oh, howard. spin it, baby. i know you will.

bey billy, can you explain how cloud seeding with guns or ballons is relevant in a chemtrail thread ?

Hey, is it necessary for the huge picture quotes in order to make one-liner cutsey replies!

This is a mass thread warning. Do not make me pass judgement. When the Crowne judges, blood flows!

Uh, pictures of trails aren't proof of chemicals in them. Continue with the pictures, though. I've always loved contrails!

Wow...
so is this process already being used?

it fits with every conspiracy theory regarding chemtrails and the effect upon the atmosphere/biosphere

chemtrails are lame. its just the left over of the burnt fuel and because it's colder up there than it is down here it leaves behind a trail...no conspiracy here fellas... if you notice the colder is it on ground the more emissions you can see from your car :p ...same with your breath when it is cold as well... work it out ***Circumvention of the cenor edited out.***, it's not that hard a concept to grasp.

[edit on 14-6-2005 by Thomas Crowne]

sorry, judge, about the picture thingy... it's just that howard brings out the cutesiest in me.

syrinx high priest,
evidence of cloudseeding to prevent global warming using planes to create an insulating layer IS "CHEMTRAILS!".

the why and how of it is pretty clear to me, by now. 'owning the weather' is a clearly defined goal of the government. the motive is there. the patents are there. the equipment is there. the studies have been done.

weather balloons are for measurements. the guns? obviously used to trigger something. the PLANES are spreading 'PERSISTANT CONTRAILS', or 'CHEMTRAILS', as the 'HOAXERS' call them.

what's funny is people still denying it, when it's so clearly going on over our heads all the time.

[edit on 14-6-2005 by billybob]