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Originally posted by EastCoastKid
Personally, I believe being gay is not a choice, but how one is born (genes). From a religious standpoint, I think the sin factor kicks in at whether or not you choose to commit the act of intimacy, whatever that may be.
As a Christian, I think its fascinating that Jesus never mentioned it. He was far more preoccupied with the travesties of hypocrisy.
Originally posted by justme1640
this is a super thread -- and I love that so far it hasn't sunk to yelling and insults which seems to happen with this type of thread so many times.
Originally posted by eazy_mas
Have you ever heard of Lots or Luts and his people ?
Simon LeVay conducted another experiment regarding the hypothalamus of the human brain in 1991. LeVay, like Swaab and Allen also did a post-mortem examination on human brains; however, he did his examinations on patients who had died from AIDS-related illnesses. He examined 19 declared homosexual man, with a mean age of 38.2, 16 presumed heterosexual men, with a mean age of 42.8, and 6 presumed heterosexual women, with a mean age of 41.2 [3]. LeVay discovered that within the hypothalamus, the third interstitial notch of the anterior hypothalamus (INAH3) was two to three times smaller in homosexual men then in heterosexual men. The women examined also exhibited this phenomenon. LeVay concluded the "homosexual and heterosexual men differ in the central neuronal mechanisms that control sexual behavior", and like Allen and Swaab, agreed that this difference in anatomy was no product of upbringing or environment, but rather prenatal cerebral development and structural differentiation [2]. ….
…. The social argument for homosexuality dates back to the ancient Greeks. Aristophanes, in his Symposium investigates homosexuality, although not termed as such, as a desire by men to share a long-term fulfillment of the soul. He believed that two souls are longing to be together, and the sexual desire alone is not strong enough to create homosexuality, but that the cultural environment allows or forbids the relationship to occur [10]. In Greece is it well known that many men engaged in same-sex relationships, however, these were not equal relationships, they were older men to young boys going through the transition to adulthood. Two instances where the culture is a causative agent of homosexual expression are in New Guinea and Crete. In some tribes in New Guinea, young boys ages 8-15 are inseminated daily by the young male warriors of the tribe. In Crete, every adolescent boy undertook a homosexual relationship as a rite of passage into manhood [10]. In these two instances, the homosexuality is accepted; however, it can be argued that it is also forced, not a natural expression.
Most psychoanalytic theories, however, stress the role of parental and family dynamics, not the society as a whole. Behaviorists believe that some sexual and gender identification differences result from roles imposed by family and friends upon children, such as the masculine and the feminine stereotypes. Problems with this are there is no evidence, social or biological, to support that homosexual children were raised differently than were the heterosexual children. Also, with reinforcement of gender identification norms, one would be led to logically deduce that all of the stereotype reinforcement would ensure a heterosexual outcome [7].
Originally posted by cybertroy
Different factors could be involved. But it's certainly not a gene. And it is changeable. People who say a person can't change either need to change their views, or get out of the profession of helping people. Telling someone they can't change is suppressive.
You've heard of something like rags to riches, proof right there that people can change.
Troy
Originally posted by cybertroy
Gay is mental.
Schizo is mental.
These things can be changed. To say it can't be changed is just not true. Gay is not some kind of permanent bodily injury, like a man with a sawed off arm, that he will not likely grow back like a starfish. It's not the same thing. Don't confuse a permanent body injury or condition with what goes on in the mind. We decide our fates. Men can decide whether or not the weenie goes into the chocolate factory. Enough said.
Troy
Maybe people just see something in themself and is told by the media if you this this this that your gay. Inreality thats all in your head because if you cant trust yourself as being what you are and what had God created for you wouldnt be doing this you should accpect what GOD created in this form of gender .
Even if homosexaulitiy is genetic its not a couple of millions .
You dont find people with genetic disabilities or genetic disconfigrution 1 in every 2 mybe its 1 in every 100 million.
Originally posted by alien
...so long as its consensual and doesn't include animals or children...then who you're banging ain't none of my business and I don't believe it anyone elses either...
Originally posted by eazy_mas
Give me a proof of gay genetics and stuff and proven .
Sex is not for fun . Most people forget the main reason for sex is for reproduce and there is no use to reproduce with the same gender.
As for and issue of anal sex there are many causes where people are hurt and stuck there stuff there , in some cause you could have some tighten and you could die . That part is only desgin to use for one thing and its not for that stuff .