Some concepts for a HUMVEE replacement(photos and pics)

Here is another reson why I like the first concept, it looks like it could be configured for many diffferent missions. Just like the hummer, the hummer has so many variants its not even funny. medical van, Stinger Missile platform, troop transportation, in testing anti-tank missile launcher aka LOSAT. Security vehicle, the list goes on and on, thats why I think the replacment of the hummer should be able to do the duties that the hummer did. Here is what variants I can see for this vehicle, Security vehicle, this vehicle is very fast, perfect for partrolling security fence lines. The next thing would be airbase firetruck, with the speed of this vehicle it would have a very fast response time. Now if we start fielding the metal storm fire fighting system, it could be easily mounted on this vehicle, and that system is suppose to be a very reliable system. The next thing I could see it as is a fast attack vehicle, again its speed and protection come in very handy, it could destroy light vehicles, and go into bases to attack infantry. And have the speed to get out if any REAL heavy firepower came.
What are your guys opinions on this? Also I think of some more possible variants for this vehicle, I know there must be more.

I heared the Dingo II vehicles, israel buys from germany, will be produced by a subsidiary company of the german company in USA, so they can let americans pay for it, are there any plans to buy Dingo II, for the USMC or US Army?

How would that make the Americans pay for it? It would be the opposite our workers would get paid for building it.

The US pays the workers.

Well, USA supports the Israeli military, Israel gets stuff they want for free from the US, but if they want to get it financed by the usa, the stuff has to be build in the usa...

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can anibody translate wat jetsetter just posted up. i dink it looks tight. it looks just like the Warthog from Halo 2, in the front position.

[edit on 13-6-2005 by deltaboy]

Don't let any U.S. senators or congressmen see these.

First, they'll lobby for them to built in their district.

Then they'll complain aabout the lacking armor.

Actually, these are no improvements over the hummvee. If they wish to replace the hummvee in certain situations, the one I see most important is the urban environment. And, to do that they should be looking at "from the ground up" heavily armored small transport. the dingo II looks like a good starting point. Perhaps a light version of the chobham armor, with reactive plates over them.

The great criticism of the hummvee was armor(which it was never designed to use), yet these new designs show the same weakness.

Originally posted by jetsetter
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Looks kinda like a smaller, more futurisitc hummer.

I agree with soulforge.

The reason they want to replace the Hummer is to better fit todays conflicts, like Iraq. Fighting in cities is now common, and in some possible future conclicts with Iran, NK, Syria, ect. So they need a well armored vehicles, concepts with no doors and windows are impracticle.

I like the 1st one (called Ultra AP), and the second one (called Ultra 3T).

The First one is very wierd looking, all 4 people sit inside the cabin, which is called the "Blast Bucket" (they got that from Nascar), but I think its strange that they all sit in different directions.

and the second one (Ultra 3T) has a good look to it, and sounds like its gonna have an impressive powersupply. They want it to have loads of electricity, since vehicles today need far more power then their predeccessors. 1 MW, which is a LOT, they want it to be able to do other things like be the generator, they also want it to have enough power to be able to be a platform for an up in coming railgun, as well as just more computers inside for the crew, and communications, and also be better armored by using a new power hugry techique called electro-static armor, it will also have computerized stability control, and will have common things to the average person like: Air Conditioning, Anti-lock brakes, Airbags, and better suspension.

The Shadow is a good vehicle, for certian tasks, and patroling bagdad isn't one of them.

As for the current Hummers. The US military has a bunch of them, around a 120,000. 24,000 of which are in Iraq. But they were not designed with armor in mind. and todays battlefields, thats a top priority. They were designed back in 79', and have served nearly as long as the jeep, so there replacement time is coming.
Couple pics: showing a armored Humvee totaled, and the other shows its old (electronic) age.

at least that totaled humvee save the soldiers lives from the way i see there is no penetration where the soldiers are sitting. in anicase hope a better vehicle is somthing the Army and Marines are bringing up on paper or at least on prototype.

dont search for more, you have the solution...





like a french would say.............viva le france

[edit on 25-8-2005 by grunt2]

nope thats too small grunt. it should be this one.....









now there is somthing we should all buy for the troops. no doubt this baby should serve the American soldiers for the 21st century.

www.mowag.com...

With the newly developed EAGLE IV MOWAG has once again set the standard in the segment of armoured 4x4 vehicles for military applications. The EAGLE IV is suitable as reconnaissance, communications and observation vehicle as well as for UN missions and border patrol. The MOWAG development on the basis of the proven DURO chassis is distinguished through a very high payload versus a low GVW, with a high ballistic and mine protection level as well as exceptional mobility both on- and off-road. Due to the application of numerous components from the DURO family, the maintenance and training costs can be kept low in a fleet mission.


The basic development of the new EAGLE IV began in January 2003 and has been completed only 10 months later with the roll-out of the first prototype vehicle. When compared with EAGLE II and III vehicles, which have been fielded to date in a number of armies, especially the payload and protection for the crew have been significantly improved. Whereas the previous generation of vehicles was based on the Hummer (HMMWV) chassis, the new EAGLE IV is built on the DURO chassis. This enabled the payload to be raised to 2'400 kg, and this with a GVW of only 7'400 kg. The width of the vehicle has been reduced by 120 mm as compared with the Hummer. This results in an overall width of 2.16 m, which allows two fully-equipped EAGLE IV vehicles to be transported in a C-130 aircraft without special preparation.

Higher Protection Levels for the Crew
Protection of the crew is of extreme significance especially in UN missions. The EAGLE IV provides protection against ballistic weapons in accordance with the international standard STANAG 4569 Level 3 (7.62 AP, 30 m) and mine protection in accordance with the standard STANAG 4569 Level 2a (6 kg TNT). For non-hazardous missions, the EAGLE IV is also available in a non-armoured version, whereby the crew cab can simply be exchanged. As an option, the EAGLE IV can also be equipped with NBC protection and air-conditioning, as well as a CTIS.

High Mobility on Missions
When on a mission, the crew profits from the high level ov mobility both on- and off-road as well as the simple operation of the vehicle. A high-powered 6 cylinder in-line turbocharged diesel engine with 250 HP and a torque of 750 Nm the EAGLE IV has sufficient power reserves for off-road operation and reaches a top speed of 120 km/h on roads. With a power-to-weight ratio of 33 HP/t the EAGLE IV is the best powered vehicle in its class. The patented wheel suspension provides the EAGLE IV with a very high level of mobility, even in the most difficult terrain combined with a high level of safety (curve stability) on the roads. A 5-speed automatic transmission in combination with power steering and a self-locking Torsen differential allows simple and safe operation of the vehicle.

That one doesn't seem to bad.

But I think there purpose is they want an all new vehicle...from the ground up, even incorporating things like no mirrors, so its has better aerodynamics, which makes its mpg go up.

well, actually one of the humvies problem is that is too big, anyway i prefer something based in the vbl, maybe bigger, that can be fixed

the eagle is interesting, but i think that just make the same design mistakes of the hammer

come on murcielago....aerodynamics????

[edit on 25-8-2005 by grunt2]

come on murcielago....aerodynamics????

- I know, I to thought it was wierd...but I read it.

They want the new vehicles to be faster then the Hummer, the Ultra 3T is planned on goiing from 0-60 in 4.6 seconds! and It will be a Drive-by-Wire system. They plan on having cameras around the vehicle, and have a 360 degree look of whats around their vehicles from the dash screens.

[edit on 25-8-2005 by Murcielago]

I like the land rover defenders , very nice, can go literally anywhere and is sturdy as hell.
Fit a roll cage on it and I have no doubt you could go rallying with it.
Scrap that^ , its already been put on survielance jeeps.


[edit on 26/02/2005 by devilwasp]

Can't they just make an APC that can survive multiple RPG hits and ieds???? I mean, wouldn't that make more of a difference than being able to slap on 'mission specific' adaptions or streamlinging to preserve fuel???

Originally posted by Nygdan
Can't they just make an APC that can survive multiple RPG hits and ieds???? I mean, wouldn't that make more of a difference than being able to slap on 'mission specific' adaptions or streamlinging to preserve fuel???

Are you proposing they take the turret off of a tank and give it some passenger room? RPG's are designed to take out tanks, and some of the IEDs will obliterate any tank out there if it gets a direct hit.

Things like this would be nice if they were feasible, but I can't see it realistically happening.

Hummer is designing a new Humvee, I wonder what it will look like.

Neat. I wonder what is new about it.

About the quote you have. I just noticed that it was from 1914... Are you sure that is right? I thought the first nuclear reactor wasn't made until at least 1940 (I think it was just a pile of uranium bricks on some college football field).