Who Really Owns the USA?

Saudi interests own 17% of America. That's amazing. Also Look at the amount of money Bush borrowed:

800-850 billion from Japan

400 billion from China

300 billion from the EU

65 billion from South Korea

sounds like a recipe for disaster. Watch the dollar, eventually our creditors will catch up to this scam and stop buying bonds and dumping their dollar reserves to either Gold or Euros.

[edit on 7-1-2006 by Nakash]

They'll go with the Euro in the not-so-distant future. And that will have a dire impact on the US economy. Should petro dollars become petro Euros, we will cease to be a major military power. No denero, no big ships; no denero, no fuel to run big guns and big ships.

It amazes me that so many people continue to not accept this possibility.

Originally posted by IthinkIjustpukedalittle
Then again one would also hope the the most powerful nation would not be run by a dumbass Texan.

Dubya isn't originally from Texas. He was born in Connecticut, lived some time in California and then moved to Texas, though he spent most of his holidays in Maine, at the Bush Compound
Just to clarify.

BTW, George Bush isn't a cowboy either, because he doesn't follow the cowboy code, but he sure is a cow something, a coward

Anyway, back to the topic!

[edit on 8/1/2006 by SwearBear]

The corporations own the US right now and probably will for a long time to come.

Originally posted by SwearBear

Dubya isn't originally from Texas. He was born in Connecticut, lived some time in California and then moved to Texas, though he spent most of his holidays in Maine, at the Bush Compound

Just to clarify.

To be fair, SwearBear, Bush did grow up in Texas. Though, he was not born there, as you say. He grew up in Midland. A dusty, nothing town. How apro pos? (sp? )

Anyway.. true, he was born in the northeast, but he's all Texas.



BTW, George Bush isn't a cowboy either, because he doesn't follow the cowboy code, but he sure is a cow something, a coward

Anyway, back to the topic!

[edit on 8/1/2006 by SwearBear]

we all know Britain "owns" the US Transfered its powerbase to the US due to the war and the fact that the US has far more land and capital to be put to use.

Well when I say Britain, the bank of England

USA is and will never be lead by some "other countries" will never happen cuss people like me won't let it happen America will grow like Nazi Germany and will expand this GREATEMPIRE.

Who Really Owns the USA?

All the entities that control most of the money! You can't have a democracy when only a few control most of the money. Therefore, we have no democracy....

I watched a program on Sky TV today that put forward the theory that the real reason the US invaded Iraq because old Saddam was going to start selling his Oil for Euros. Apparently you can at the moment only buy and sell oil for US Dollars and if the Oil producing countries started selling their oil for Euros it would bankrupt the US.
Perhaps someone in the UK who saw this on Sky one with a better understanding of World Economics could explain to me how exactly that would work?
Also it seems that the Iranians are going to set up their own Oil trading Exchange and invite the Oil producing Middle Eastern countries to trade there using Euroes instead of US Dollars. The Saudies according to the program have an agreement with the US to only buy and sell Oil with US Dollars and that a vast sum of money from Saudi Oil sales, some 600bil annually is transfered straight to the federal reserve and in the return the US gets to use the money as it sees fit and guarentees that the Saudi Royal family stay in power with military aid etc.
Anyone shed any light on this? No links im afraid i saw the show about 2 hours ago.

Dear Janus, right now oil is sold/traded with petro dollars. If OPEC got sick of us, they could always cash out and go with the Euro. That would be a devastating blow to our economy, despite what our media doesn't tell us. If they went with the Euro instead of the dollar, we (the USA) would be screwd.

Originally posted by EastCoastKid
Dear Janus, right now oil is sold/traded with petro dollars. If OPEC got sick of us, they could always cash out and go with the Euro. That would be a devastating blow to our economy, despite what our media doesn't tell us. If they went with the Euro instead of the dollar, we (the USA) would be screwd.

Ahh petro Dollars, that’s what they called it. The petro Dollar cycle, countries sell goods and services to the US for dollars and then spend those dollars on oil with US currency, nice little money tree the US has going there. No wonder the US has so much cash. I can see now that if OPEC change to Euros it would cause problems, wars have started for less.
Also I remember the program saying that after the US had secured the Oil ministry they had all the transactions that saddam had done with Petro Euros, doesn’t have the same ring to it as petro Dollars does it? Changed back to Dollars. As the Euro at the time was worth 17% more than the Dollar the US effectively wiped out 17% of the Oil wealth made by using Euros.
I really don’t know how sound the programs theory was but it seems a more plausible reason for war than missing WMD.


[edit on 11-1-2006 by Janus]

Originally posted by Janus
I watched a program on Sky TV today that put forward the theory that the real reason the US invaded Iraq because old Saddam was going to start selling his Oil for Euros
Anyone shed any light on this? No links im afraid i saw the show about 2 hours ago.

you are correct. iraq is the only opec country to have switched to the euro and did so in novemeber 2000.

another country that has been considering the move to the euro is..... iran.

hmmmm

Wow, I didnt know that Iraq did this, and Iran plans to. Being an American I hate to say it, but our top brass is screwing us financially, so I almost dont blame people for putting more faith in the Euro. THAT economy seems much more stable. Anybody got any good sources for further reading on the subject?

Originally posted by DaFunk13
Wow, I didnt know that Iraq did this, and Iran plans to. Being an American I hate to say it, but our top brass is screwing us financially, so I almost dont blame people for putting more faith in the Euro. THAT economy seems much more stable. Anybody got any good sources for further reading on the subject?

there is an EXTREMELY interesting interview with saddam hussain by the uk mp toni benn, done for channel four before the start of the war in iraq.

it can be viewed/read here www.scoop.co.nz...

I believe the Zionist own Amewrica.
And elites as well I mean MASON and Freemasons, Illuminati etc.
Did you know that Bush and Kerry are skull and bones members and that they believe satan is their god this is sick the Illuminati definatly own the problly the world.
Infact the bank owns the world because if you think about it they actually charge interest for money putting more people in to slavery to repy their debts.

Originally posted by Janus
.... theory that the real reason the US invaded Iraq because old Saddam was going to start selling his Oil for Euros. Apparently you can at the moment only buy and sell oil for US Dollars and if the Oil producing countries started selling their oil for Euros it would bankrupt the US.

......seems that the Iranians are going to set up their own Oil trading Exchange and invite the Oil producing Middle Eastern countries to trade there using Euroes instead of US Dollars. The Saudies according to the program have an agreement with the US to only buy and sell Oil with US Dollars and that a vast sum of money from Saudi Oil sales, some 600bil annually is transfered straight to the federal reserve and in the return the US gets to use the money as it sees fit and guarentees that the Saudi Royal family stay in power with military aid etc. .......

Well, believe it or not that explains alot. Okay, I study economics as a hobby. So Bush's companies and buddies would be making major bucks with the war and selling "oil stock". The Saudies have a deal with the US Goverment from 1986(; maybe later)? I believe that they transfer the oil sales for US help, food, etc., possible "ally" thing. But that's all I know off hand from old-libary books.

Here are links:

www.fas.org...
www.eia.doe.gov...
www.gasandoil.com...

Interesting question.

Now ponder this. What do you think the real purpose of National Parks, National Wildlife Reserves, etc... are?

Do you think that our government just uses its outstanding credit rating as collateral? Nope. Our national parks, etc... are all in place to serve as collateral to other countries. Why do you think Clinton made the Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument in SW Utah? Duh, its one of the largest reserves of low-sulfer coal in the world. Very very very valuable land. Its pretty obvious that he didnt just pass that resolution because he's sooooo concerned with 1.7million acres in Utah. Give me a break.

Just wait everyone. Our country is going to be sold off to the highest bidder.

Originally posted by EastCoastKid
Did you all know that Prince Al Waleed of Saudi Arabia owns stock in Fox news, his shares being second only to Rupert Murdoch?

It estimated that the House of Saud owns up to 600 Billion dollars worth of American investments. Imagine if that was yanked out of our system suddenly... for whatever reason. Doesn't make ya feel too good to think about it.

Forget about how much the Chinese own...

You have got to be kidding me?

Judaics OWN and OPERATE the U.S.

The Judaics OWN the banking and financial system. The stock broking houses. The advertising and marketing industry. The television industry. The movie industry. They own the Pentagon. They own the Courts. They run the porn, drug and sex slave trade. They have over 20 million committed "sayanims" (willing helpers) all over the plenet. They have started all the great wars. Funded all the greatest dictator thugs and killed millions of Christians in Russia during the Soviet age.

Who do you think funded Mao? Where did Mao train? Who was Mao's right hand man (Sidney Rittenberg). Who does all the business over their - Sir Martin Sorrel (judaic) does the advertising and House of Rothschild runs the banks and owns the factories.

And you actually have the audacity to post this tripe?

This forum needs an enema.

I will be happy to perform it.

Recently, after having a discussion with my uncle, i've been enlightened on a few things. First off, it has recently been proposed that the united states "borrow" 400 trillion dollars from china. 400 TRILLION. this kind of money has never been printed in the history of the world. Money in this masses, just doesn't exist. To imagine just 1 trillion dollars, suppose you were born around the time of Jesus Christ; if you spent one million dollars every day, you still would not have 1 trillion dollars. Now try and imagine 400 trillion.

And the collateral for this 400 trillion imaginary dollars? Half of the land of the united states.

Our money used to be backed by gold, then it was silver. Now our money is backed by nothing but a piece of paper, virtually meaningless.

Also, he proposed the theory that the reason that we do not dig up the oil in Alaska is because it is probably already being held collateral for something else.

Just some interesting things i learned just a week ago that i thought i would share.