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Originally posted by MisTicaL
To say or even think that such ideas can go hand-in-hand means to say "I know absolutely nothing about either one".
Furthermore you can't just take someones idea/theory/creed/doctrine and say it goes hand-in-hand with something that somebody else came up with.
In addition to that, the many obvious, Creation/Evolution, contradictions make such assertions even more absurd.
And to top it off you have both sides, Athiests and Christians (for my part), telling you that they don't want these associations being made.
Originally posted by TheeStateMachine
Furthermore you can't just take someones idea/theory/creed/doctrine and say it goes hand-in-hand with something that somebody else came up with.
Why not, exactly? another assertion.
Originally posted by TheeStateMachine
In addition to that, the many obvious, Creation/Evolution, contradictions make such assertions even more absurd.
Again, referring to my earlier post on this topic, there are an infinite number of ways to combine god and science...
Originally posted by TheeStateMachine
As for myself, and my strong atheistic views, well... i don't demand that any associations between god and science be severred...
Several others have done pretty well with this... perhaps you could learn from Xeven or others...
Originally posted by TheeStateMachine
So, Mystical... who is it that "knows nothing about either one"? Really, who?
Why not you ask ? Think about it and go with the obvious. Ideas/theories/creeds/whatever when made/created by two different ideological sides usually, and in this case, differ impressively when it comes to Purpose. ... Get it ?
Seriously, are you purposely trying to make me puke by displaying your lack of knowledge for my ability to use my inteligence to coherently make those combinations ?
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purposely trying to make me
use my inteligence to coherently make those combinations ?
This thread isn't about God and science. You're getting off target (much as you did in your first post). I am presenting the theories, from both Evolution and Genesis, as unavoidably incompatible.
Yes, God does not refute science nor science God. The theories, however, are interpretations of both science and theism and very conflicting they are. Those interpertations are based usually on faith. Especially when trying to figure out the past.
The inconsistencies, are then, more a matter of faith than that of "evidence" .
The thread doesn't say "Science and God go hand in hand?" It says something else. Thus my claim. I read [and] reread Xeven and found little or nothing to learn.
Originally posted by TheeStateMachine
Why not you ask ? Think about it and go with the obvious. Ideas/theories/creeds/whatever when made/created by two different ideological sides usually, and in this case, differ impressively when it comes to Purpose. ... Get it ?
The purpose of ID Creationism and Evolution are quite similair: to explain the origins of the species. What's not to get?
The inconsistencies in the THEORIES, both scientific as well as theistic disiplines, are then, more a matter of faith than that of "evidence" .
Originally posted by TheeStateMachine
Faith in any specific god or gods is (at least since civilization began) informed by evidence, reason *and* faith; for many christians, the old and new testament count as *some* of the evidence to explain matters within the natural world. Other religions have other texts and, thus, "evidence". but for contemporary christians, as well as most other religious folk, there is plenty of "evidence" out there in the world ready to be studied as well... not just faith.
Originally posted by TheeStateMachine
Good to see a sense of humor.