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8:46 AM: Bush later states, "I was sitting outside the classroom and I saw an airplane hit the tower. The TV was on.” [CNN, 12/4/01] “When we walked into the classroom, I had seen this plane fly into the first building.” [White House, 1/5/02] There was no live coverage of the first crash on TV.
8:52 AM: Two F-15s take off from Otis Air Force Base. [Washington Post, 9/15/01] They go after Flight 175. Major General Paul Weaver, director of the Air National Guard, states "the pilots flew like a scalded ape, topping 500 mph but were unable to catch up to the airliner. We had a nine-minute window, and in excess of 100 miles to intercept 175,'' he said. ''There was just literally no way.'' [Dallas Morning News, 9/15/01] F-15's fly at up to 2.5 times the speed of sound [1875 mph or 30+ miles a minute or 270+ miles in nine minutes] and are designed for low-altitude, high-speed, precision attacks. [BBC]
Otis Aif Force base
Conclusion: The statements of General Myers end Major General Arnold
are in contradiction with one another. There is a discrepancy of 46 minutes.
WBZ news
May 13, 2005 10:52 am US/Eastern
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Otis Air National Guard Base on Cape Cod, which launched fighter jets in response to the Sept. 11 terror attacks, is among the military facilities targeted in the first round of base closures in a decade.
CBS News
Particularly devastated states include New Mexico, Texas and Maine. Conversely, Oklahoma and Missouri residents cheered for their bases — and jobs — spared.
ThicHeaded said
We all know from years of hisory that no building has ever colapsed due to any type of fire, unless it was some kinda house or something..
7th Fire
The world class architects who designed the World Trade Center designed it to withstand the direct impact and fuel fire of a commercial airline crash. Aaron Swirsky, one of the architects of the WTC described the collapse as "incredible" and "unbelievable." Lee Robertson, the project's structural engineer said: "I designed it for a 707 to hit it. The Boeing 707 has a fuel capacity comparable to the 767."
The history of high-rise building fires provides not a single case of a building collapsing due to steel beams melting from a fire.
This video (originally shown live on CBS) will make your jaw drop! WTC 7 is shown completely intact with fire barely even visible. Dan Rather had already informed his viewers that "CBS has learned," that the building was expected to collapse. Shortly afterwards, the bottom suddenly drops out from underneath it. Within 2-3 seconds the entire 47 story building had suddenly disappeared into a perfect and total straight down collapse! external image
Popular MechanicsJet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength--and that required exposure to much less heat. "I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."
Ecofore Q&A
Measurements made in several oak log fires indicated that the maximum temperature of the fire (in the crevice between the logs) was 900°F to 1200°F and that the gas just outside the flame envelope was 200°F to 400°F. A temperature of 900°-1200°F is barely the ignition temperature of the volatiles and results in their slowest reaction rates.
can you explain how you reached your conclusions, or is this just your opinion?
Originally posted by DiRtYDeViL
He didn’t watch any film he’s just stupid, and wanted to make it look like he knew what was going on instead of looking like the incompetent fool he is
Originally posted by DiRtYDeViL
He didn’t watch any film he’s just stupid, and wanted to make it look like he knew what was going on instead of looking like the incompetent fool he is