the Rule of Benedict

the newest vatican 'Inquisitor'

what a wild article. it's like dan brown's 'angels and demons' being played out in real life. life imitates art, and all that.

this ratzinger guy is, according to space man, from the same family that has been at the vatican helm during EVERY SINGLE CRUSADE. nine crusades were all headed by merovingian popes. ratzinger has the san grael, or 'holy blood', according to spaceman.

just when you thought life couldn't get any more interesting, the whole biblical endtimes via occult agendas and self-fulfilling prophecies starts to really take off. weeeeeee! hang on to your (giant pointy) hat.

Originally posted by billybobthe same family that has been at the vatican helm during EVERY SINGLE CRUSADE. nine crusades were all headed by merovingian popes

Where in the world are you getting this from? Since when is Ratsinger a frank anyways, or the franks bavarians?

that nugget of info came from gary bell, the spaceman, mojoradio640am. saturday nights, check out the view from space online at www.mojoradio.com.... click the 'listen live' button on saturday nights between nine-ish and one-ish. the times change slightly according to sports schedules and whatnot. spaceman's becoming fairly well known, i'd say, after a quick internet search.

however, the merovingian bloodline goes back to auntiquity. it is not a frank thang. jesus was in the bloodline. he didn't start it. was jesus a frank?

space also claimed that the templar's big secret is the BONES OF JESUS! they are at renee du chateau(spelling mistake, oh well). this proves that he died, and had kids and will 'validate' the merovingian bloodline once dna testing is complete. 'they' are waiting for the right moment to reveal them crazy bones.

here's a search 'ratzinger merovingian' on google.

however, the merovingian bloodline goes back to auntiquity. it is not a frank thang. jesus was in the bloodline. he didn't start it. was jesus a frank?

The merovingians are franks, jesus has nothing to do with the line, outside of 'Holy Blood Holy Grail' or 'The Davinci Code'.

here's a search 'ratzinger merovingian' on google.

Anything from that search worth looking at? I mean, lots of people say lots of stuff.

The merovingians are a family of franks that united frankish rule in Gaul, which became known as 'France' because of them, the Franks. They have nothign to do with bavaria, which is where Ratzinger is from. I have not seen any information that indicates he is related to them. Indeed, there isn't going to be any such information, because the merovingian line was destroyed a long time ago, and no one bothered to keep records of that descendancy, including themleves, over the, what, 1,000 years since their viziers took over?

i find it funny that this had to be moved to belowtopsecret. haha.

there are different perpectives on what happened during the dark ages. you choose to believe the indoctrination machine, that's fine with me.

the vatican is evil. always has been.

Originally posted by billybob
there are different perpectives on what happened during the dark ages.

Correct. Some of those perspectives are based on fantasy, others on what facts we have

you choose to believe the indoctrination machine, that's fine with me.

Thanks for your permission. How is archaeology and history and rational objective consideration of the information we have indoctrination, but your acceptance of some unsupported ahistorical and irrational dogma not indoctrination?

Does any actual information support your interpretation?

the vatican is evil. always has been.

The vatican is an administrative unit of the RCC. Its done bad stuff, its done good stuff. To blandly refer to it as 'evil' is senseless.

so hostile, nygdan. relax. we're all going to die.

there are many people saying these things about grail blood lines. i'm am not saying them with conviction. i am saying other people are saying them. see the difference?

history is written by the victors. what you call 'facts', i call endless repetition. they keep teaching things in school, even after they find they aren't true anymore. like evolution, JFK/oswald or the model of the atom for some examples.

the vatican is evil. they stand between man and god as arbiter, contrary to the teachings of jesus. they have murdered TENS of MILLIONS of innocent people. they launder money for the mob. anything good they do is just a facade.

Originally posted by billybob
so hostile, nygdan. relax. we're all going to die.

? I am not being hostile. I don't feel hostile anyways.

i am saying other people are saying them. see the difference?

There is a difference between noting other theories, and saying that the best supported one is merely 'propaganda'

history is written by the victors.

Whats the sense tho, if you are saying that there is no evidencefor anything, then how can one back any of these theories? Besides, the 'merovingians are descendants of jesus' story doesn't make sense, even on its own, whereas the 'standard' history does.

like evolution,

Since evolutionary theory is sound, why shouldnt' it be taught?

JFK/oswald

Since no one has ever demonstrated that oswald didn't do it, why shouldn't it be taught?

or the model of the atom for some examples.

Since the model of the atom taught in schools is accurate, if lacking in some of the details a phsyicist works with, why shouldn't it be taught?

the vatican is evil. they stand between man and god as arbiter, contrary to the teachings of jesus.

Thats hardly a definition of evil and its only your opinion that its contrary to jesus, the bible sets the church, the christian community, as having some ability to settle theological disputes. That is what the vatican does. Thats not, inherently, evil.

they have murdered TENS of MILLIONS of innocent people.

I agree, that was wrong.

they launder money for the mob.

If they do then that is wrong. That has nothing to do with the basic concept of the church tho.

www.21stcenturyradio.com...

That the Merovingian bloodline came from elsewhere is clear because of the legend that surrounds their founder, King Merovee, who is said to have been the spawn of a "Quinotaur," a giant fish or a sea monster, who raped his mother when she went out to swim in the ocean. Now it becomes clear why he is called "Merovee," because in French, mer means sea. And in some traditions, Atlantis was called Meru, or Maru. (It is also the name of the famous "World Mountain" of Eastern tradition.) For these gods, navigation above all was important to them, for it was their sea power that maintained their military might and their successful mercantile trade. (Mer is also the origin of the word "mercantile.") The Atlanteans were associated with the sea and were often depicted as mermen, or sea monsters, with scales, fins, and horns. And they were variously associated with a number of important animals, whose symbolism they held sacred: horses, bulls, goats, rams, lions, fish, serpents, dragons, even cats and dogs. And as we will see, all of these things relate back to the sea imagery with which these gods were associated.

i'm not alone. the patterns of the actions of this bunch through history IS history, for the most part. that's why you live in a'MER'ica. real life does have an influence on us, but the trail of connections leading through history right up to the present bunch, which includes, the rockerfellas, the rothschilds, the royals, the american royals(jeckyll island/paperclip/cfr/bush crew).
i see it. most people don't. or they refuse to. or they are trying to dissuade others from seeing it.

belowtopsecret, indeed. haha.

www.theforbiddenknowledge.com...

i'm not alone in noticing people noticing patterns.

Originally posted by billybob
that's why you live in a'MER'ica.

Wow. Is that one of those 'theories' that you don't back, but are just making note of, or do you actually beleive that?

That the Merovingian bloodline came from elsewhere is clear because of the legend that surrounds their founder, King Merovee, who is said to have been the spawn of a "Quinotaur," a giant fish or a sea monster, who raped his mother when she went out to swim in the ocean. Now it becomes clear why he is called "Merovee," because in French, mer means sea. And in some traditions, Atlantis was called Meru, or Maru.

Thats what you put forth in place of actual history???
The founder of the merovingian dynasty is Merovech. He may or may not be legendary. The family was knocked out of power slowly as they allowed their court officers to take more responsiblities, and ultimately this resulted in Charlemagne gaining the Empire. The merovingians were the leaders of a group of franks, there is nothing that suggests that they were from outside of their own Salisian tribe. The idea that they are the descendants of jesus is just about as likely that the founders mother was raped by a seamonster.

but the trail of connections leading through history right up to the present bunch, which includes, the rockerfellas, the rothschilds, the royals, the american royals

Demonstrate it. Demonstrate that the descendants of the merovingians can be traced, and that there is a direct line of males ruling anything.

It doesn't matter how many people 'beleive it', what matters is why its beleived. This bit is beleived for fantasy purposes, not because there is any truth to it.

I love the vatican. Ratzinger is doing a great job so far.

Originally posted by Nygdan

Originally posted by billybobthe same family that has been at the vatican helm during EVERY SINGLE CRUSADE. nine crusades were all headed by merovingian popes

Where in the world are you getting this from? Since when is Ratsinger a frank anyways, or the franks bavarians?

the pope is a kraut

Originally posted by Croat56
Ratzinger is doing a great job so far.

How so??

Its strange calling him Pope Benedict, ain't it? The only pope I've ever known is JPII, can't imagine refering to him in his Pole name. I wonder when the point is reached where the pope is generalyl refered to by his new name?

krazyivan
the pope is a kraut

Indeed, he's bavarian, not member of the Frankish tribe in Gaul.

Originally posted by Nygdan
Its strange calling him Pope Benedict, ain't it? The only pope I've ever known is JPII, can't imagine refering to him in his Pole name. I wonder when the point is reached where the pope is generalyl refered to by his new name?

Yes it is strange saying Benedict, heck I still say Ratzinger. Ive never known another pope befor either. When I was born he was already pope for 10 years. Karol Wojtiyla( JPII ) Whenever someone says pope my first thought will always be Karol. Probably down the line we'll get used to saying Benedict, that is if he's around long enough. 78 is pretty old!

Ratzinger, it was pointed out to me today, hails from a part of Germany that was actually part of France in the 1500's in the Hapsburg Empire under the reign of Charles V. This corresponds to the time that Nostradamus lived, and to Ratzinger. Hmmm...

Originally posted by billybob
Ratzinger, it was pointed out to me today, hails from a part of Germany that was actually part of France in the 1500's

Which is about 9 hundred years after the Merovingians fell out of power.

Originally posted by Nygdan

Originally posted by billybob
Ratzinger, it was pointed out to me today, hails from a part of Germany that was actually part of France in the 1500's

Which is about 9 hundred years after the Merovingians fell out of power.

for accuracy....

The Merovingian family, from which the Franks used to choose their kings, is commonly said to have lasted until the time of Childeric [III, 743-752] who was deposed, shaved, and thrust into the cloister by command of the Roman Pontiff Stephen [II (or III) 752-757]. But although, to all outward appearance, it ended with him, it had long since been devoid of vital strength, and conspicuous only from bearing the empty epithet Royal; the real power and authority in the kingdom lay in the hands of the chief officer of the court, the so-called Mayor of the Palace, and he was at the head of affairs.

well, i seriously think it's possible that ratzinger is a merovingian. it's a bloodline that hails back to the interbreeding of a half-fish, half-man, or MERman, and predates the franks by thousands of years. that is what some researchers believe. people like this...watch.pair.com...

'god's rotweiller'? nice pope.

Originally posted by billybob
well, i seriously think it's possible that ratzinger is a merovingian.

Possible? SUre, I guess, anyone can be related to anyone else. Fact is, there is absolutely nothing that indicates that the merovingian line continues into moder times.

it's a bloodline that hails back to the interbreeding of a half-fish, half-man, or MERman,

Thats from a single story about a sea monster. Even if mermen existed, there's no reason to think that they can interbreed with humans, let alone that a merman-human half breed is going to be accepted by the Franks as their king.

and predates the franks by thousands of years.[/quoite]
There is absoltely nothing to substantiate that claim. A thousand years before the Franks were in France was, what, 200 BC or some such.

that is what some researchers believe

What does it matter that anyone beleives it? They don't have good reasons for beleiving it.

]http://watch.pair.com/merovingian.html

What, from that page, did you find convincing??

'god's rotweiller'? nice pope.

Why does the pope have to be nice??? And he is given that appelation because he is ardent and strict in his beleifs and doesn't change them because they are unpopular. He's a conservative, tradtionalist catholic. And from this you think that he is descended from a multi-millenium old line of human merman hybrids???