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Originally posted by junglejake
Just a thought. Could it be, possibly, because the attacks on Israel have been directed purely at civilians, much like the attacks on 9-11, while Israeli attacks have been directed towards Hamas and other terrorist networks?
Originally posted by junglejake
Just a thought. Could it be, possibly, because the attacks on Israel have been directed purely at civilians, much like the attacks on 9-11, while Israeli attacks have been directed towards Hamas and other terrorist networks?
Originally posted by XphilesPhan
Makes you wonder if the israelis think their actions are justified because of the holocaust.
The historically unique U.S.-Israel alliance has been based on the perception that Israel is a "strategic asset," fulfilling U.S. goals in the region in tacit alliance with the Arab facade in the Gulf and other regional protectors of the family dictatorships, and performing services elsewhere. Those who see Israel's future as an efficient Sparta, at permanent war with its enemies and surviving at the whim of the U.S., naturally want that relationship to continue — including, it seems, much of the organized American Jewish community, a fact that has long outraged Israeli doves. The doctrine is explained by General (ret.) Shlomo Gazit, former head of Israeli military intelligence and a senior official of the military administration of the occupied territories. After the collapse of the USSR, he writes,"Israel's main task has not changed at all, and it remains of crucial importance. Its location at the center of the Arab Muslim Middle East predestines Israel to be a devoted guardian of stability in all the countries surrounding it. Its [role] is to protect the existing regimes: to prevent or halt the processes of radicalization and to block the expansion of fundamentalist religious zealotry." To which we may add: performing dirty work that the U.S. is unable to undertake itself because of popular opposition or other costs. The conception has its grim logic. What is remarkable is that advocacy of it should be identified as "support for Israel."
With some translation, Gazit's analysis seems plausible. We have to understand "stability" to mean maintenance of specific forms of domination and control, and easy access to resources and profits. And the phrase "fundamentalist religious zealotry," as noted, is a code word for a particular form of "radical nationalism" that threatens "stability."
Originally posted by banjo_guru
The Palestians are the invaders.
Originally posted by twitchy
Originally posted by banjo_guru
The Palestians are the invaders.
Now there's an informed opinion...
Originally posted by banjo_guru
No bias in the media? What turnip truck did you fall off of?
The news media plays right into the hands of the terrorists (Palestinians), by spreading only the portions of the conflict that put Israel in the worst light.
Amazing how the Israelis are painted as being the invaders in the land.
Could not be farther from the truth. The Palestians are the invaders.
When the Balfour Declaration and the League of Nations gave the land title to Israel, the slogan was "A land with no people for a people with no land" ( or something of that effect). While there were indigenous tribes there, it was a barren wasteland of swamps and deserts that man could scarcely live in.
Go read your history, see if I'm lying.
( Of course, if you're American, you wouldn't know because the government has constantly rewritten and changed the history books , the same way they accused the Soviets of doing in the 60s, as they looked down their noses at them for it)
The Jewish settlers moved in, gave their sweat and blood, faced malaria, and other things, but eventually the desert began to bloom.
The simple truth of the matter is the land belongs to Israel, deeded by the one true God, the Palestinians will never let there be peace because all they want is to drive Israel into the sea, they do not want peace.
Surah 9:5 makes it plain that Islaam is to 'kill the infidels where it can find them'. It gives instructions to make pacts with them or whatever it needs to do, honor is of no value. There is nothing I can see that's peaceful about Islaam.
The conflict goes back to Abraham's two sons, Isaac and Ishmael.
It will never go away until the end of time.
You can take all I say with a grain of salt if you like; facts are facts, you can't change them.
Banjo
The Life of one Amercian is equal to the life of 10,000 somalis
Originally posted by Netchicken
All media is biased.
We are taking notice of a site with an overt anti american and anti Irsael bias talking about bias themselves.
Talk about throwing stones in glasshouses.
So what? Is there a point to this? I wouldn't give Al jaz the vailidity it craves on this, anti american and anti israel article.
The entire concept of a biased news agancy pointing out biasness is stupid...
[edit on 22-6-2005 by Netchicken]