What was before the dinosaurs??

what if an ancient civvilisation created dinosaurs through DNA and nano bio clone manipulation technology, maybe the civilisation had a big war or catasphory and these creations escaped into wild where they became dinsaurs we eventualy know and find?? im sure we are not 1st high tech civilisaton on this planet.

Interesting thought.... but why would they have created these creatures..?

Just because (hypothetically) they could...?

An experiment which got out of theire hands.

Sheesh.

No, there was no "ancient civilization before dinosaurs." It was fish and proto-reptiles, insects, and some mammal-like reptiles (among many others.)
yahooligans.yahoo.com...

This is the era of the ammonites and the trilobites and the huge sharks.
www.suite101.com...

How do we know there aren't any "pre-dino civilizations"? Easy... civilizations leave traces and the more sophisticated they are, the more traces they leave (mines, garbage dumps, unusual ceramics, lots and lots of indestructable artifacts... no, not the "out of place artifacts" (most of which are artificially hyped to be something else) but you'd have things like obviously manufactured metal showing up amid dinosaur bones or computer chips and things like that.)

While certainly not as old as the dinosaurs, regarding an advanced Pre-Diluvian civilization you should check out the book Uriel's Machine. Alot of the stuff is way to far out there in the book, but it does present some very fascinating information, that seems factual.

The only thing we know of before the dinosaurs are single cell organism, multi-complex cell organisms, mold, bacteria, and GIANT BUGS!!!!!

www.abqtrib.com...

Originally posted by blobby
im sure we are not 1st high tech civilisaton on this planet.

Why are you sure, when the evidence contradicts that idea?

regarding an advanced Pre-Diluvian civilization

Since there was no Flood, there can't be any pre-flood civilizations.

[edit on 12-5-2005 by Nygdan]

Just curious, what evidence do you have against the Flood. Leaving the 3 major world religions out of it, I thought it was all but scientific fact. But then again I'm wrong half the time so I likely am here as well.

i dont think we are 1st high tech civilisation on this planet casue theres some weird radiatiated cities in India being dug up and other little things in history like ufo sightings or info thats just should not be there in that century like the star maps of the doggan tribe that said some info about some star and only at end of 20th Century could we actually say YES its correct but how did they possibly know it in first place without technology?

other things why we might not be seeing evidence of past civilisations is maybe its at bottom of Oceans as pole shifts and land masses move and reshape planet, under the ice caps maybe who knows, just cause its not been found to public knowledge anyway doesnt mean it might be there waiting to be found, there deff some interesting road like and buildings on parts of sea floor that need furthur investigateing.

you probably already know all about this guy, but if you're into lost/ancient civilizations, you gotta check it out.....


www.grahamhancock.com...

Originally posted by Baphomet79
Just curious, what evidence do you have against the Flood.

The lack of a global flood layer, and a structure to the geologic column and fossil record that can't be created by a flood, along with the immposiblity of that much water arriving and then leaving.

Leaving the 3 major world religions out of it

No religions, no Flood.

I thought it was all but scientific fact.

The global flood from the bible? Noah's flood?

No, definitly not.

blobby
dont think we are 1st high tech civilisation on this planet casue theres some weird radiatiated cities in India being dug up

No there aren't. Certainly not 'weirdly irradiated'. There's radiation all over the world, naturally, not becuase of some ancient nuke war.

or info thats just should not be there in that century like the star maps of the doggan tribe

The story about the dogon's knowing about sirius and its companion is a falsehood. THey had no idea about it. Some researchers that came upon them interpreted modern knowledge into their primitive art. They did not know about it.

maybe its at bottom of Oceans

Been checked, no contintal crust, no vast civilizations. How'd they get to the bottom of the oceans anyway?

as pole shifts and land masses move and reshape planet,

The crust of the planet is not loose and does not rotate around the planet, thus switching the poles. The magnetic properties of the poles, however, do switch. This has nothing to do with the movement of the crust.

just cause its not been found to public knowledge anyway doesnt mean it might be there waiting to be found

The converse applies also.

there deff some interesting road like and buildings on parts of sea floor that need furthur investigateing.

The bimini 'road' is beach rock. There are examples of it in other parts of the world, the currents wear the pattern in the rocks over time.

like the star maps of the doggan tribe that said some info about some star and only at end of 20th Century could we actually say YES its correct but how did they possibly know it in first place without technology?

Perhaps said star/s were brighter back before all the streetlights, etc.

Also, many stars go through periods of variable brightness, not all are stable, so this is another explanation, and certainly more plausible than the aforementioned advanced civilization.

As Byrd mentioned, the more advanced, the more signs they were there, and simply put, we don't have such signs showing any civilization as or more advanced, than current day technology.

Originally posted by cosmokatt7
Interesting thought.... but why would they have created these creatures..?

Just because (hypothetically) they could...?

your probably very correct in saying 'Just because they could'

as far as i can reason, before the creator re-made the earth
(which became void & chaotic according to scripture)
there were all types of 'un-natural' things inhabiting the creation
which was entrusted to an Angelic Being (ET?) named Lucifer
who was the Leader put in charge of the Earth (i.e. Garden/BioSphere)
it could very well be that he became what we would term a 'Mad Scientist'
him & the 200,003 Angelic Helpers (according to Hebrew mysticisms)
were confined to this planet and still roam around amongst the humans
or Adamic Mankind that the creator (head Scientist of the ETs, having his office in Heaven) put on Earth to replace the weird monsters & bio-engineered lifeforms that Lucifer & staff put all over their "Jurassic Park" creation, as a Oasis/Theme Park for all the traveling ETs to vacation at.

besides, some of the various ETs that visited the Luciferian Jurassic Park, not only traveled to Earth to see & experience these unique & living creations...but to savor the unique taste of different dinosaur types. as some vactioning ETs could eat & metabolize flesh & meat products....
see, some of them were corporeal beings, not all of the ETs/Angels were spiritual entities...........such is the diversity of the cosmos/universe/creation

of course this is only IMHO

Originally posted by cosmokatt7
Interesting thought.... but why would they have created these creatures..?

Just because (hypothetically) they could...?

Well we clone sheep just because we can. Mabye they were just experimenting with different types of gene-splicing with the animals that were present in their time.

Originally posted by Arcanum919

Originally posted by cosmokatt7
Interesting thought.... but why would they have created these creatures..?

Just because (hypothetically) they could...?

Well we clone sheep just because we can. Mabye they were just experimenting with different types of gene-splicing with the animals that were present in their time.

That kind of suff leaves a lot of traces... traces that we just don't see, y'know?

Originally posted by Byrd

Originally posted by Arcanum919

Originally posted by cosmokatt7
Interesting thought.... but why would they have created these creatures..?

Just because (hypothetically) they could...?

Well we clone sheep just because we can. Mabye they were just experimenting with different types of gene-splicing with the animals that were present in their time.

That kind of suff leaves a lot of traces... traces that we just don't see, y'know?

You mean as in traces in the DNA or in the actual body-shape/structure of the dinosaurs? Have we actually ever found anything more than a fragment of DNA, I would think that if we were to see signs of anything like cloning or the like one would have to have a substanial if not complete sample. Not that I really buy this idea mind you but it's an interesting discussion.

I think Byrd means a culture that had the technology to do gene splicing and cloning would have left behind buildings, roads, bridges, etc.....

Although I don't think someone genetically engeneered dinosaurs, there is another weird question that comes into my mind. Couldn't dinosaurs live in civilized society/were they inteligent enough?
I know there are no structures such as buidlings etc., but remeber that the oldest human buildings are just few thousands yars old, so maybe the dinosaur civilization traces just vanished during the 65 milion years.

Originally posted by longbow
Although I don't think someone genetically engeneered dinosaurs, there is another weird question that comes into my mind. Couldn't dinosaurs live in civilized society/were they inteligent enough?
I know there are no structures such as buidlings etc., but remeber that the oldest human buildings are just few thousands yars old, so maybe the dinosaur civilization traces just vanished during the 65 milion years.

Very cool idea. The problem with an idea like this is the size of the average dinosaurs brain, while some of them were a moderate size a great many of them were extremely small. The other problem is that descendants of dinosaurs are still around today and it would be odd for all of that higher brain function to have just dissapeared along the evolutionary ladder. It definatley makes for a cool visual though

Originally posted by blobby
theres some weird radiatiated cities in India being dug up

I've never actually heard about that, but there are poems [The Mahabharata and The Ramayana] and scripts written in Indian religion about an ancient war which occured on Earth between 'Gods' that involved weapons of unimaginable chaos.
Maybe the radiation has something connection to this?
The weapons were called Vimanas in the scripts, they flew and they were described to be "more powerful than 1,000,000 elephants" or something similar to that.
Here's a description of the weapons:
“The sun seemed to turn around. The universe scorched with heats seemed to be in a ever. The elephants and other creatures of the land scorched by the energy of weapon, ran in fright, breathing heavily and desirous of protection against that terrible force…”
I haven't looked much into it.
But here's some info I just found on google:
www.thelosthaven.co.uk...

www.mythfolklore.net...

www.sacred-texts.com...

www.thelosthaven.co.uk...

[edit on 5/15/2005 by Logical_Psycho]