Was Jesus an Alien

Ok, personally, I don't think Jesus was an Alien. I will admit that there are a good many reasons to think so, but I firmly believe that Jesus was the Son of God. I know a lot of you don't, but I'm not preaching, that's just what I think. On the other hand, I can see every reason to believe that he Angels were aliens.......that would make a lot of sense.

Megaquad, you have provided with no concrete reason why Jesus could not be considered an alien. I by no means ever said he was, I simply posed it as a question...could it be? You are a strong proponent that it coul not be? But why...because the bible said so? that's absurd. You said yoursefl you used to believe Jesus was an alien, what changed your mind? Why "were" you stupid?

If you explain yourself in a logical way that provides solid points you are much less likely to come under attack.

Sorry for the double post, but i missed a particularly humorous part of your post megaquad.

Your theory that "Demons are posing as alines." What is this based on? This is supposed to be an informative message board. I am truly interested in your point of view. so, let's hear it.

Did you view the pictures in the original post? How do you explain the saucers with people in them flying above Jesus' head?

[Edited on 31-7-2003 by Lukefj]

Look at my first post.. I just stated some things you attacked me then, and few posts above, I am mainly responding to TheSwordMaster.

Many of these pics could have other meaning, seems to me author of page forced anything related to sky to be UFO.
I would really like to find out if those pictures actually exist where they are said to be. All these things must be known before speculating about conclusion.
Jesus related drawings are made long after Jesus was on Earth so how could painter know.
Many of them look like hats or 'opened sky', could be easily photoshopped, or if they are real, I also have explanation, it is connected to demons and 'transports of hell'. I'll post it tommorow I'm going to bed now.


[Edited on 1-8-2003 by Megaquad]

I look forward to it. Tommorrow then.

remember, even if the aliens said jesus was made by them... that's not necessarily true. If they wanted to overturn human society, an easy way to do so would be to undermine the God of about 2/5ths the world's populace.

Also, remember how when Cortez encountered the aztecs and they began to worship him as God he went along with it.....?

Okay, so this premise of this thread is that an artist painted a picture a millenium and half after Christ, inserted admitted "ufo-type objects" in the background, and ergo...Jesus was an alien.

You asked, so I'll answer you. NO, I don't think Jesus was an alien...I think he was out of this world, but not an alien.

ValHal, I'll play devils advocate here. Why would the artist incorporate these figures? Why would so many artists incorporate these figures? Remeber these artists are from different times and locations. What would inspire these figures? Why not on there own, why within pictures of Christ?

Indian Legends defines Jesus as related (through Mary) to one which has no name. His ancestors include Osiris and Anubis which while not mentioned in the Holy bible is apparent became part of the family due to the time spent in Egypt.

The one who has no name existed about 35,000 years ago and according to the Greeks he was known as Gemini.

No real mystery exist as to how he made his was across the Atlantic, except to those who wish to believe it was impossible.

For the record it is accepted he was not of this world.

But he was human.

[Edited on 1-8-2003 by Toltec]

Originally posted by Lukefj
ValHal, I'll play devils advocate here. Why would the artist incorporate these figures? Why would so many artists incorporate these figures? Remeber these artists are from different times and locations. What would inspire these figures? Why not on there own, why within pictures of Christ?

Because they are pointers to the Underground Stream. Because they want to create a mystery around a false secret and make sure that people ask the questions you are asking.

remember, even if the aliens said jesus was made by them... that's not necessarily true. If they wanted to overturn human society, an easy way to do so would be to undermine the God of about 2/5ths the world's populace.

Yep, in the first part of my cited quote...you'll see the preface that they often lie....

Just for the record, I'm not espousing one view over the other...I was asked for a link, and provided it...

Personally, I believe that Jesus did exist, but that he was not the son of God. (especially as I don't believe in a God). But, that he was one of the original gifted psychics, and a conman (though I don't believe he personally thought he was conning anyone, he actually believed he was the savior, and the son of God...egged on by his mother Mary, no doubt...) I believe that Jesus was an unwitting cult leader, and that his followers are the ones who embellished the tales of their idol's deeds (i.e. walking on water, water to wine (one of mary's tricks), the fishes, etc.) to the "miracles" we see recorded today.

Gaz,

I really enjoyed your post. It is a very interesting theory indeed. Perhaps the most plausible by far of all the posts in this thread. I too do not believe in a particular God and find far too many flaws in the story of Jesus. It is the stuff of fairy tale. I too believe that Jesus did exist, but if the story is true, I do not believe he was human. however, if as you suggest Jesus' story was embellished by his followers, it is very possible that he was simply a very influential human.

The most recent tv miniseries they had on Jesus...was pretty good. Did anyone here see it? It was on just a couple years or so ago, around Easter...

Anyways, though the miniseries of course, didn't exactly tout my theory, if you keep it in mind while watching the show, you'll see inklings of these possibilities...(I only point it out, as it was weird to see my ideas *almost* played out in such a medium...)

Erich von D�niken is trying to convince everyone for many years that gods were aliens.
www.daniken.com...

Yes,

I've read Chariots of the Gods, very intriguing, but I think a little sensationalized. Still, a very worthwhile read.

A point to consider is that mankind is evolving towards a state of awareness in which consciousness becomes more attune to the inherent interconnectedness with respect to reality.

Very easily Jesus could have been such a person and because of this he was a threat to society developing with respect to empires and market economies.

As a result he was killed.

With respect to the miracles he performed consider the state of awareness with respect to a human who is alive say 10,000,000 years from now.

This is not to say Jesus was a happenstance, but rather relevant to our development. Taking into consideration an orientation where time is simply more than just what we perceive. In retrospect we in reality only observe time from the perspective of a wave aspect. Given that otherwise everything else we observe presents itself from the context of a duality why is it assumed that time and space are not the same?

Any thoughts?

Was Jesus an Alien ( that was the question )

Reading the Bible and the part of Moses with God coming down in Fire and Smoke, that sounded more like a spaceship landing than a supreme being.

Book of Revelation, a lamb is slain for Mankind. But as it goes on the Elders of Heavon toss their crown at Jesus feet. Being a Star Trek believer I saw the Elders as represenitives of planets or star systems who are signaling their backing of him to help rebuild this lost World. He comes in as a lamb but returns as a Lion, with an Army.

12th planet, yes that can be a topic of itself, but if true we are then clones of another species and may in fact hold an understanding of spirituality we may have lost.

Fall of Mankind we eat Forbidden Fruit correct,

Today we can eat Forbidden Fruit called Thermal Nuclear Weapons on which Treaties are signed making them Forbidden to be used by either side, yet with a single computer Bite or should that be byte we could fall into destrction, naked not as without clothing but naked as in no longer living under Gods truth or his word. Stripped of moral and a world without government or the law. We would as ancient text suggest been perhaps a planet that was part of some Federation of Planet but we fell into civil disorder, thus God could not come down to help mankind.

His birth was that of a virgin, could we today not take an egg and insert that into a virgin and let her give birth to a child? Didn't Betty Hill talk about how the aliens wanted to check her for pregnacy thru her navel and that procedure is standard today. Could we have friends and foe's as Satan is the Prince of Darkness and scientist say space is made up of Dark matter with something call dark power as well?

This thread started with the Question was Jesus an Alien, somewhere along the thread it got offtrack and people started talking more about faith in the Bible the what the question was asking. Losing the ability to discuss without judgement is hard, as we are taught patriotic themes early in our life, yet those in charge create the greatest lie's.

Faith in Christ should be another thread that those who wish can start or find one already going. Stop and think for a moment and then look at some of the remarks in this thread. Speak you thoughts and let others do the same, that is our greatest treasure ,

Michael

I've always wondered if perhaps he had alien/god in his genetic makup.....making him half alin/god, half human.It would explain the light that the wisemen apparently followed too.
Also there tends to be alot of religious artwork containing ufos.

People need to stop quoting from stories to back up their claims.
The bible is nothing but a re-hash of older stories with a few masonic codes thrown in. Remember it was James the 1st ( Scoon Lodge ) who gave us our latest installment. Don't get me wrong, the truth's are there, but not for you're average christian. The same goes for the the Qu'ran, Bhavagad Gita and all the other masonic scriptures of the world. They all evolved from the Gilgamish Epic. It's as simple as that.

If we return to the roots, the truth will appear.

Jesus (or Y'shua as he would of been called) did exist. Just not in the way that we have been conditioned to think of him. The real Jesus of the essene tribe (direct descendents of the PHAROAH Moses) can be learned about through the true gospels of the Qumran scrolls, that the church has been desperately trying to suppress for the last 40 odd years.

All of the great names of history were real be them Mohammed, Budda (Siddartha). It is just their message that has been distorted to meet the agenda of the ruling elite families who know the truth about their alien origins, and in some cases their own bloodlines.

So Yes, Jesus was an alien, but so are we all. It was this truth that the great sages in history have always been trying to tell us.

A good book to read is The Twelth Planet by Zechariah Sitchen.

Take Care.

..the idea of Aliens being Demons stems from the fallen angel's attributes: Being of another deminsion. Being deceivers. Being able to assume many forms and shapes.

Lucifer was the brightest (literally) creation of God in beauty and intelligence. An angel of Light.

The fallen angels are of the air. In other words, their abode is in the atmosphere of Earth.

The deception is pointed at all humankind.

Some believe this in the church (not Cath.) and some don't. Take what you want from this:

www.mt.net...

www.mt.net...

[Edited on 2-8-2003 by Tyriffic]