Lucid dreaming and my fears...

As a child I was very empathic. I could meet someone and know their story, if that makes sense. Not just random general ideas. But specific things that have happened.

As an example, and this is a very wierd situation. I was about 15 years old. Myself and some friends were driving around looking for something to do and I began wrestling around with the girlfriend of a friend of mine (he was with us hehe). Out of nowhere I put my hand on her forehead and saw a baby fetus. Very small but I could tell what it was. Out of the blue, I just said, Diana, your several weeks pregnant.

She flipped out, Randy (her boyfriend) jokingly said, dude dont curse us. Diana for some reason believed me. She ended up going to the doctor and sure enough, she was in fact pregant.

I know, this story is a bit out there for many people (including myself really) but sure enough, she had a baby girl and named me the Godfather...true story.

Now, the reason I explained this story is to explain my periods when things like this would happen to me on a fairly often basis. It lead me into witchcraft as a teen and I ended up scaring myself right back out of it. But I always had a certain gift.

Now I'm older. I'm a professional. I own 3 companies and basically someone others might call a "Suit". Not a hippy, or far out there. I don't smoke weed or use any drugs etc. I don't have these abilities so much anymore outside of a strong intuition with people, however, I have these dreams...

I have a lot of dreams that I am flying. Most of them I can actually control. Sometimes Im flying around a forest from tree to tree. Or from building or tower to a tree. I've had dreams that I am chasing people, or hiding from people.

Lately however, I have been having dreams of alien invasion. Futuristic experiences. One dream I had was as if I was standing on another planet where there the sky was dark and there was very dark water everywhere. Out of nowhere you'd hear something like a space station announcement from speakers and a man in a pod popped out of the water, waved at me and flew off into space at a very, very fast speed.

Ive had dreams of running and hiding while everyone around me was hyterical during an alien invasion. Vivid dreams. Everything was real.

I've recently been having dreams that I've been in a variety of different prisons. I had a dream that 4 enourmous horsemen came out of the clouds and one of them came down to me with an extended arm, then I woke up. (this dream was a vivid as it could be. It was during a sports charity event and I was an agent for some of the ball players.)

I'm just curious as to what any of this means if anything. What thoughts others might have on my experiences. Should I simply blow them off as mere dreams of fantasy or might there be something more real to them?

In many of my dreams, I can control myself, especially the dreams where I'm flying. The others, it's like watching a vivid movie with me as the star.

It's scary, yet very interesting to me.

Any and all thoughts are welcome.

thanks for reading.




[edit on 9-5-2005 by ElectricCrow]

Interesting that you mention 4 horsemen, you are aware of their role in revelations arent you?

Yes, I'm aware of the 4 horsement of the apocolypse, however I'm not sure if these were the same. If I remember correctly, in my dream all of the horsement were dressed in white. Their horses were covered in white. The one that came down to me looked just like a picture I saw later of a Knight Templar. Same symbol on his chest etc.

That dream really scared the hell out of me actually.

I know the 4 HOTA are supposed to be all different. Different weapons and different colored horses etc. I don't remember any colored horses from my dream though.

I just remember standing there on the basketball court, I bent over and a basketball hit me on the butt. As I was standing up straight, I heard people screaming and saying "Oh my God, this is really it" and I looked up and saw these huge horsemen coming from out of the clouds. Huge meaning, the size of buildings. Large enough to see them clearly from way up in the sky. They all seemed to go off into different directions but one of them came down from the sky, swooped around into my direction and came towards me with his arm out. I woke up right after.

I woke up scared, and that rarely happens. That day I was driving (still do this) and I look up at the clouds and the same feelings of fear run through me as I rememebr the dream. As if it could happen any second.

Thats how real the dream was to me.

[edit on 9-5-2005 by ElectricCrow]

I highly recomend the Carlos Castanada book called ....'The Art of Dreaming'



It deals with various situations in the lucid dreaming state. Many exersises to help you exersise your fears. Good read you would like it and find it helpfull in your situation I betcha..........

A pparently, masters of Tibetan Buddhism practiced "dream yoga",with the
theory being that if you can control your dreams then you can also gain greater control over your waking life. The discriptions are exactly like what
modern psychology refers to as "lucid dreaming"

There was a book... I don't know if it's still in print, called "DREAM YOGA"
I think it was published by Shambahalla press,...

There are similar books available at this link:

www.ligminchastore.org...

or there is Tibetan Yoga and Secret Doctrines by Oxford University press
ISBN 0-19-513314.5 available at Amazon.com

[edit on 10-5-2005 by cosmokatt7]

Probably too much ATS. It happens to me too.


Scary though, seriously.

I once achieved a lot of control while lucid dreaming but I don't recall gaining greater control while awake. My dreams definitely helped my imagination though.

As far as analyzing dreams, I don't know much myself but have encountered some people on here who do. That's a pretty amazing story posted above.

ElectricCrow, that's an interesting story about your friend's girlfriend. I am curious as to how you see your role as "Godfather". Do you accept that as a title and do you actually talk to the girl about God? I had someone mention being a Godfather to me and I didn't like the idea. I'm curious about how others see it (just a title or actually a responsibility).

I second RiverGoddess's suggestion on the Art of Dreaming by Carlos C. I would also suggest LaBerge's book on lucid dreaming. This book taught me how to lucid dream. Basically you train yourself to notice what images keep popping up in your dreams. So if you are constantly seeing television screens (like I did in my dreams) then you would train/program yourself to watch for television sets during your waking hours. When you see one, you develop the habit of doing a "state check" wherein you ask yourself, "Am I dreaming?" while simultaneously directing your eyes toward some text or numbers (a logo or something on a piece of paper near you). The point is, you'll train yourself to do this and it will seem tedious, but then one day, you will perform a state check while you ARE dreaming and you will instantly recognize the so-called "waking world" is actually a dream that you are having. This experience of "waking up" while in a dream is the coolest thing I've ever felt.

I can dream lucidly probably 20% of the time and it will still slip away within the dreams (I'm only lucid for a portion of it). It's tricky because your subconcious wants to believe the dream world is real. It wants to skip and play and believe. If you can sneak your critical mind into the dream without "waking it up", then yes, you can take control of the reins. Also, what we percieve as a 'dream' is actually a series of segments during the night when we are dreaming but the gaps between segments are not noticed by our dream-minds. It often seems like one big long dream but really you may only be lucid for one segment on a particular night's sleep.

You didn't mention taking any actions in the scenarios you described. Do you think you could re-conjure the horsemen or the alien in a lucid dream? You might try having a conversation with them and see what they say. Some people believe that aliens can and do communicate with us when we are dreaming. I seem to be unable to conjure aliens in my dreams though. It's almost like my mind can't really conceive of how an alien would act. I would like very much to have an alien in one of my dreams and my first thought would be to try and talk to him/her.

For some reason, my mind is really good at making up stuff, like in one dream, I was browsing in a hobby shop for at least ten minutes before I realized that every model kit and figurine in the place was totally imagined! I mean I was picking up model kits and examing all sides of the box and each of them had very detailed photographs of vehicles and spacecraft I had never seen anywhere before. My mind was making all that stuff up. When I awoke, I tried to draw some of the vehicles I had seen but the details slipped out of my waking-memory too quick. Where the heck did my mind get the material to think up hundreds of unique and different cars, airplanes and spacecraft? I can still remember the sheer amazement I felt in my dream when I became lucid and realized that every item in the store was a fictional creation of my brain. That particular dream still amazes me.

Hmm, i regulary have dreams involving aliens and UFO's comming into the real world at places i know, or at some unknown location.

I had one dream before Easter that this UFO was hovering over the street outside my house at home on a really nice sunny day(I'm at uni), and my dad went out nearer the UFO to investigate, which was worrying in the dream. In a few days after that dream i went home and found myself in the same location i was in my dream, on the same nice sunny day.. I was kinda worried for a while but nothing happened.

I'm not sure what the meaning of dreaming of aliens and UFO's is, but i've been given specific things to do from people in my dreams, which may indicate they have some meaning or purpose..

Dreams ? i too have certain dreams about people and things they do , things that are going to happen etc...
however, they aren't ALWAYS literal , very often they are symbolic ,vague.
sometimes i scare my friends , i once asked a friend if his mother was upset with him , and if she is , he should really make it better , she is his mom after all , he laughed . then his phone rang , it was his mom , and she was crying because she was upset with him , something about catching him watching porn , i had a wide smile on my face . things like that happen ALL the time . i think most people have it , just some more'n others.
the problem is , my intuition - if u could call it that - never serves me in something MAJOR , just things like a relative getting out of prison 4 years early , or revealing a friend who is a chronic liar .
i think , that what you don't know can't hurt you , somethings were concealed from us for a good reason , so be careful what you wish for .

Originally posted by ElectricCrow
I have a lot of dreams that I am flying. Most of them I can actually control. Sometimes Im flying around a forest from tree to tree. Or from building or tower to a tree.

I was thinking, okay lucid dreams, been there. Fantastic memories of flying and jumping in my dreams. Then you went and started talking about:

I've had dreams that I am chasing people, or hiding from people.
Lately however, I have been having dreams of alien invasion. Futuristic experiences.

Ive had dreams of running and hiding while everyone around me was hyterical during an alien invasion. Vivid dreams. Everything was real.

I've recently been having dreams that I've been in a variety of different prisons.

In many of my dreams, I can control myself, especially the dreams where I'm flying. The others, it's like watching a vivid movie with me as the star.

It's scary, yet very interesting to me.

[edit on 9-5-2005 by ElectricCrow]

Snap, snap and snap.

I am normally quite a cynical person about these things, but you hit the mark, especially about the upswing in the running/chasing dreams.

I would be interested to here anyone elses interpretations of these dreams......

these are dreams with no special meaning towards the earth and it's future. these dreams talk about your own personality and some conflicts you have or answers you're looking for. i'm not into explaining what each symbol etc means in a dream so can't help you there.

the rest...*shrugs* each individiual has certain gifts (you can't learn all, you're given some to work with). most people don't use em or even acknowledge them.

Ok, as for the term Godfather, in my family it's always mroe or less meant, if something happened to your biological parents, your God parents would take care of you from there until your grown.

It's funny what you said about spot checking yourself. I have always thought to myself, "how can I tell myself I'm dreaming when I am so I can gain control more often?" You jsut answered it. I may actually have to check those books out.

As for taking actions, sometimes I do. Often times, my dreams are very vivid, but more like John Malkovich situations. Like, it's me, I feel whats going on in the dream. I'm talking, acting like I would in life. Its really more like it depends on what kind of dream Im having that decides what role I play in it and what control I have in it.

My 4 horsemen dream for example, I had no control. It was just very real and played before me with me in the center.

My flight dreams are the ones I most often have control in. I tell you, one night I was having a dream that I was flying all over the place and I woke up for no reason but I was still in such a state that I felt as though I could still fly, even though I knew I was awake. But the second I consciously thought about flying, the feeling of ability went away. It was really wierd because I could feel a wierd warm sensation in the back lower part of my head, nearest my neck. As if something there was being triggered.

I have noticed that almost 100% of the dreams I have where I'm flying, I wake up on my back. I never have flight dreams while I'm sleeping on my stomach. Lately, my flight dreams have been almost comical. I have to flap my arms slowly a few times to get air and I keep doing it in front of people as if showing off.

I think the one thing you can be certain of ElectricCrow is that there is something here you need to learn about. The books mentioned are an excellent start.

Gaining more awareness while in your Dreams does indeed have many powerful benefits but like most good things takes some effort. Most people accept that Dreams are often part of the process whereby we work out some problem or difficult situation, and that is certainly true, but that is only a fraction of what the tool of Dreams can do for you.

One powerful experience for me was meeting myself. To see myself as others do, from the outside in 3 dimensions was quite interesting.


Smallpeeps, in regards to meeting an Alien. Try 'going to them' if you cannot bring them to you. You do not need to understand to be able to observe and perhaps that might break the block you seem to have. For most people it is safer to meet an unknown on familiar ground, but perhaps for you seeing something in it's natural environment is in fact easier. In this sort of situation you are the 'alien' and they are the natural people of the land.




A.T
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Interesting that you mentioned a dream about an alien invasion. The other night I also had a dream about an alien invasion. Large groups of people were running around confused, the rest of the dream relates only to my personal life and is irrelevant to this thread.

How did you know it was an alien invasion?

Were the space ships? What shape were they?

Were there ground forces? What did they look like?