Why does no one care about white slavery?

Compensation in general?

Does that mean you don't support the compensation given to Jews, for what happened to their families in world war two?

Only if it was given to survivors of the tragedy or people who were alive when it happened.

How about the Muslim slave trade that goes on today in the Sudan and other countries?

Seems here that the Arabs and Muslims were knee deep in the slave trade then and still are today should THEY pay for compinsation too?

www.answering-islam.org...

www.warriorsfortruth.com...

www.slaveryinamerica.org...

www.geocities.com...


www.faithfreedom.org...

The Russian Mafia and Chinese Gangs are too, also entire countries like Thailand and Indonesia. Child prostitutes are rampent in Eastern Europe, etc.

Is anyone concerened with these slaves?

Or is this just another America/Israel suck thread?

[edit on 13-5-2005 by Amuk]

Originally posted by Amuk
How about the Muslim slave trade that goes on today in the Sudan and other countries?

Or is this just another America/Israel suck thread?

That's too lame.

Too bad I made this thread BEFORE our little discussion on the Israel soldier/rapist thread. It's even worse that I expected such a reply as soon as I saw your name. Thanks for giving me something to laugh at, though.



BTW, when I start my Israel bashing threads, they'll have ISRAEL in the title. But, of course, merely mentioning Israel as ONE of the players involved in the sex slave trade is anti-Semitic. It's too bad not many know that people who bash Arabs are anti-Semitic too...

In case you missed something, Amuk, I was pointing out the fact that no one seems to care about the sex slave trade. But, again, instead of adding anything on that, you come with the "they do it too" excuse. And that comment came solely from the fact that I pointed out that Israel is involved.

If I hadn't mentioned Israel, you would have had nothing to say, right? I knew I wasn't crazy; there is something weird that happens when someone criticizes Israel, even when it's a legit criticism. I can only conclude that this is another country involved in dirty things that a lot of people try to keep under wraps for some strange reason. Only, with Israel, it seems like there's something substantial to hide.

Originally posted by truthseeka
If I hadn't mentioned Israel, you would have had nothing to say, right?

You caught me I am a paid agent for the Mossad

I notice you didnt mention any other countries in your little rant but I guess slavery is ok as long as the "dirty Jews" arent involved right? You didnt mention them as one of several countries you ONLY MENTION THEM.

You only mention them because it suites your agenda.

I mention them all and condemn them all. But go ahead and use others pain to and suffering as a platform to preach hate much like those right-wingers you claim to hate but are so much alike

Go ahead and post your Nazi crap I will be there to point you out as the hypocrite you are

[edit on 13-5-2005 by Amuk]

There is no such thing as white slavery, from the point of view that the threadstarter is talking about as elicited in the first post to this thread. All the whites that are prostitutes, exotic dancers, call girls etc come from troubled famillies. No case there.

On the other hand, you have child pornography and that is getting a lot of attention in ontario canada. check www.thestar.com for some articles. These are front page stories. So I would suggest that child pornography is getting a lot of attention. Then again there are places in the US where the police turn a blind eye to child porn since they are also active participants, and thats where the whole justice system cripples apart.

[edit on 5-13-2005 by websurfer]

Originally posted by websurfer

On the other hand, you have child pornography and that is getting a lot of attention in ontario canada. check www.thestar.com for some articles. These are front page stories. So I would suggest that child pornography is getting a lot of attention. Then again there are places in the US where the police turn a blind eye to child porn since they are also active participants, and thats where the whole justice system cripples apart.

And in MANY other countries as well.

This is a disgrace to the human race and should be on the top of EVERY countries agenda. We must address the issue in our backyard AND accross the globe before it can be stamped out.

In England most of the sexual slaves are in London, these are young girls brought here on the premise of getting a good job here. The people who import these girls are ex communist East Europeans most of them illegals. Tony Blair says hes going to crack down on illegal immigrants, but he says lots of things and does nothing. Looks like Britain and America have a lot in common with illegal immigrants.

You may not want justice, but others do. And you don't speak for all of them.

Syrian Sister, How is giving money/handouts to a family who's ancestors were slaves (no matter what the race) justice? How is that payback?

Please....your aganda is so obvious. Why should my tax dollars and other peoples tax dollars pay for unjustified compensation of someone who was not even involved in any form of slavery? Better yet, my early family did not have slaves and most of them did not come to America until the mid 1940's.......why should they pay? Some of them are still alive paying taxes.

Im a mixture of Irish, German and Polish (and I never beat myself up:lol
should I get money? Money for my Irish ancestors being tormented and wrongfully taxed by the English? No I should not...it's over.

What about my Polish ancestors who were directly effected by the Nazi movement and family seperation during the days of Hitler? No I should not.

I think AMUK brought up a very good point that you should respond to......
give it a shot.

But of course you'll somehow turn the tides and make the US responsible for a MUSLIM/ARAB slave trade that happend long before the 1776.

Yes, Arabs had slaves BEFORE ISLAM came about, same as the rest of the world had slaves back then.

When islam came, it slowely abolished slavery completely.

Islam taught people that there is no difference between the races, and that slavery was wrong.

That's why arab countries where free of slavery since about a millenia, but a thousand years later, the british/US continue to have slaves.

[edit on 13-5-2005 by Syrian Sister]

Originally posted by Syrian Sister
Yes, Arabs had slaves BEFORE ISLAM came about, same as the rest of the world had slaves back then.

So should they pay reperations too?

When islam came, it slowely abolished slavery completely.

How about in Sudan?

That's why arab countries where free of slavery since about a millenia, but a thousand years later, the british/US continue to have slaves.

[edit on 13-5-2005 by Syrian Sister]

Horsehockey

They were SELLING US THE SLAVES. The trade only ended about 300 years ago.


BTW feel free to explain YOUR AGENDA here

www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 13-5-2005 by Amuk]

Gordon covers the Arab/African slave trades up until the mid-20th Century, noting that Saudi Arabia only abolished the practice in the early 1960s. Unlike the European nations and the USA, the Arab nations did not abolish African slavery voluntarily out of moral conscience, but due to considerable economic and military pressure applied by the great colonial powers of time, France and Britain. Slavery is still practiced in two Islamic nations: The Sudan and Mauritania.

SA didnt stop slavery till the 1960s hardly a thousand years and it is STILL PRATICED in two nations

www.faithfreedom.org...



[edit on 13-5-2005 by Amuk]

but a thousand years later, the british/US continue to have slaves.

Noone is denying that......
I know this, can you please answer my questions. That ones about why should I/we have to compensate others for something we had nothing to do with.

It's funny that you only mention British and the USA.
What about Thailand, Russia, Philippines and many other nations.
Or the Spanish? It's all in the past...why should people now have to pay for it? All countries have had thier share....especially the US.

And you talk like ISLAM has never had its share of slavery...

There are many women in muslim countries who took a stand and started driving, started voting, taken of those stupid mask and other things...
they were and many still are slaves of society and thier coward husbands and fathers.

What about women who have had arranged marriages? is that not a form of slavery if they are not willing to do it? Many do it just because they know they will have no where else to go if they decline...thiers own fathers will cast them out and beat them. This is a very common practice by muslims.

Please answer it as it deals with slavery..

But yes...you will say it is not true....that it does not go on

Im waiting for it.

[edit on 13/5/2005 by SportyMB]

Sudan was slave trading even BEFORE islam came about, infact it was christianity that was around.

Islam abolished slavery, not instantly (which would have been imposible) but in a few decades of reform. In the vast majority of the middle east.

However, Islam does not encourage slavery, nor does it forbid it outright. Islam abolished slavery by
(1) improving the treatment of slaves by their owners,
(2) preventing taking free men into slavery,
(3) preventing the turning of the prisoners of war into slaves,
(4) giving inalienable right to slaves to buy back their freedom,
(5) giving rights to slaves to own personal wealth and property, and
(6) the concept of manumission of slaves to please God and to get amnesty from God for individual sins.

www.icgt.org...

Infact, islam came about when the corrupted form of christianity was spreading positive ideas about slavery.

"
Prophet came at a time when slavery was sanctioned by [christian/jewish] Holy Scriptures. For example, "ye, shall take them (the slaves) as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them (the slaves) for a possession, they shall be your bondmen (slaves) for ever . . . “

[LEVITICUS 25:46]. "When you draw near to a city to fight against it, offer terms of peace to it. And if its answer to you is peace and it opens to you, then all people who are found in it shall do forced labor for you and shall serve you. But if it makes no peace with you, then you shall besiege it . . . you shall put all its males to the sword, but the women and the little ones, the cattle and everything else in the city all its spoil, you shall take as booty for yourselves; and you shall enjoy the spoil of your enemies." (Deuteronomy 20:10-17)

“Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession. And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever" (Leviticus 25:44-46). “Servants, be subject to your masters with all fear; not only to the good and gentle, but also to the forward" (1 Peter 2:18). "Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ" (Ephesians 6:5).

www.icgt.org...

I don't know what criminal gangs are in sudan continued to kidnap and sell people, certainly the people that bought the slaves are just as bad as the people who sold them. Besides, there are non-muslims in sudan you know, but even if people who claimed to be muslims did those horrible things it certainly was not sanctioned by islam and the majority ofmuslims in any way.

Do i think those slaves deserve compensation from sudan deserve compensation. HELL YES!

Narrated Abu Musa Al-Ash'ari: "The Prophet said, "Give food to the hungry, pay a visit to the sick and release (set free) the one in captivity (by paying his ransom)." (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Food, Meals, Volume 7, Book 65, Number 286)"

www.answering-christianity.com...

Infact the prophet set free alot of Slaves, by paying their captors so that they can be set free. It's in history, read about it.

www.icgt.org...

[edit on 13-5-2005 by Syrian Sister]

"That ones about why should I/we have to compensate others for something we had nothing to do with."

You don't have to compensate them. The government does.


As for what you said about women, women have had the vote in Syria before alot of western countries. Infact in syria there are alot of women who are politicians in the syrian government. The same can be said about lebanon, palestine, egypt, jordan, Iran (the muslim theocracy) and Iraq before the war began.

What about women who have had arranged marriages?

Arranged marriages is a cultural thing, not a religious thing. It happens in india mostly, and india is hinduu. I know in hinduu culture, the men aswell as the women who are in an arranged marriage are forced into it against their will by their parents. However i think that in other cultures, there may be some choice involved. I don't know, it's not a part of my culture, it seems silly to me but some people swear by it.

In islam, it is iron clad, no women, and no man, can be forced to marry against their will. No ONE can be forced to marry anyone against their will. Infact, the in muslim marraige cerimonies, the shiekh (like a priest) , making sure that her family isn't around to pressure her, asks the bride THREE times, are you marrying this guy with your own free will?

THe sex slave trade that is going on with the slav people of east europe and in bankok right now, that's what i call slavery. THe sweat shops in the 3rd world nations run by the giant corporations. That's what i call slavery. This big fat cats and pimps who profited from slavery, should be made to pay back their due.



[edit on 13-5-2005 by Syrian Sister]

Ofcource i do, my agenda is TRUTH, JUSTICE, and FREEDOM.

(And not your orwellian version of pseudo-freedom either).

As for the thread you want me to join.

HAH.

Come into my web said the spider to the fly.

[edit on 13-5-2005 by Syrian Sister]

Originally posted by Amuk

Originally posted by truthseeka
If I hadn't mentioned Israel, you would have had nothing to say, right?

You only mention them because it suites your agenda.

I mention them all and condemn them all. But go ahead and use others pain to and suffering as a platform to preach hate much like those right-wingers you claim to hate but are so much alike

Go ahead and post your Nazi crap I will be there to point you out as the hypocrite you are

[edit on 13-5-2005 by Amuk]

What???

Can you #in read? I made this thread BEFORE our spat on the other thread. BEFORE. BEFORE, BEFORE, BEFORE!!! Maybe you'll get it now.

Nazi?? I thought we weren't supposed to label others like this in arguments here. Please tell me where I said dirty Jew, please. Don't say # if you can't find that in my posts.

And, how the # am I preaching hate? I ask why does no one care about the sex trade because I hate Jews, gothca. I don't want women and girls trafficked, but I hate Jews, alright. I'm a Nazi because I hate sex slave peddlers, ok.

For the record, the term white slavery is a little misleading; it has more to do with sex than race. I'm not sure why they call it white slavery, though...

But, that doesn't matter, because I am a black Nazi; please don't listen to me, for I am hate filled and bloodthirsty.

Syrian Sister

You don't have to compensate them. The government does.

I may not agree with the methods...but how does the gov't get its money, from us the people, the tax payers. correct? And to compensate every black family in America that had ancestors is outragious....do you have any idea how much that would be? And in the end we the tax payers would end up paying the bill.

THe sex slave trade that is going on with the slav people of east europe and in bankok right now, that's what i call slavery.

Well at least we agree on something. I mentioned all this in my first thread of this post.

This big fat cats and pimps who profited from slavery, should be made to pay back their due.

Yes I totally agree...big fat cat pimp and large companies (think of sweatshops) should sell all theyhave, close out thier stocks, even sell thier houses and clothes to pay back the people who were tricked, sold and slaved into working in sweatshops and other "underground" jobs...especially in many 3rd world countrues and even in the US.

This is totally different then paying back someone who was not even a slave.....

Who makes the criteria? what is the criteria for who "deserves"
compensation? If your ancestors were slaves upto 400 yrs back you get to cash out....PLEEEEASE!!! thats crazy.

My people fit that bill and I don't want a darn cent handed to me. Is that really going to make thier lives better? other than financially? Are they going to get a warm and fuzzy feeling and forget all about it cause they got payed? NO!

"We are slaves to a description of reality".I think the media only puts out what will boost ratings.And when we finally get the truth it's forgotten or covered up."We the people stand our ground waiting tactfully to engage a worthy cause."And I am tired of hearing only bits and pieces as if that will make the wrong things right.Our government has knowledge but they benefit somehow by not getting involved.Only to show partial truths to confuse the righteous ones.The truth is every race has had its up and downs.We as a human race need to give each other our truths as a coglomerate whole to the masses.This will help erase our ignorance o whats going on in our world.I guess thats why we have a need to crack codes, decipher conspiracies and keep people updated on knockoffs of truth.We are a unit that is only as strong as our weakest link.Whoever that may be which is probaly our government.The people our the ones that give a dictator control.We as the people have to take back our control.And maybe the best way is here where we can give our truths,

Originally posted by Syrian Sister

Islam abolished slavery, not instantly (which would have been imposible) but in a few decades of reform. In the vast majority of the middle east.

A few decades.....LOL

1960 is a few decades?