Contradiction Of David Icke

So many things he says dont add up, 12 ft tall alien reptiles rule the world in disguise as royals and american presidents, and the worlds a hologram like the matrix, if so the reptiles are holograms so their for are not real! who created the hologram? some things he says are quite believable like a secret organisation rules the world, but reptile aliens come on hes deluisonal. i think hes a sick man and he needs help.

[edit on 6-5-2005 by TerminatorX]

Originally posted by TerminatorX
So many things he says dont add up, 12 ft tall alien reptiles rule the world in disguise as royals and american presidents, and the worlds a hologram like the matrix, if so the reptiles are holograms so their for are not real! who created the hologram? some things he says are quite believable like a secret organisation rules the world, but reptile aliens come on hes deluisonal. i think hes a sick man and he needs help.

[edit on 6-5-2005 by TerminatorX]

He is pure genius, oh come on now if he really exposed Everything for the real truth then I think he would end up with a red dot on his head. Then again if that happened then people might ask questions so what do you do???

Please connect the dots of masonry, the knights templar and all the other history you aren't told about including the ancient cilivilasions then you see that we have been held in ignorance for a VERY long time.

I agree with you on that area but holographic reptiles come on it sounds like a philip k dick novel.

half truths about Icke yet again...

The 12ft Reptilles controlling the world are mentioned throught history many times and it is where the "mystical" Dragons derives from.

There are a few types of them but the ones mostly behind the global conspiracy are the albino winged type which seeded the Royal bloodlines during Sumer.

Ever noticed how so much of the Queens regelia (SP?) is so adorned with Dragons, Serpents and so much Babylonian and Sumerian symbolism?

How they control the major politicians is via possesion during Satanic ritual.

They control them from the 4th dimension so they are just outside our frequency spectrum and is why we cannot see them.

Ever noticed how so many politicians eyes are dead?

And about how he says the world is an illusion...

What he says about this is very complicated and I still havent gotten my head around it all but I will do with his new book.

Its a cross between quantum physics and the fact that we are only intune with 0.5% of the frequency spectrum of our universe.

Very simple theory its just so hard to get your head round it.

I suggest you read more on him becuase you are full of half-truths about him, just like so many here are.

This has been covered before my numerous anti-ickes who see his work as insane and doesnt add up. Overall, Icke says lots of things to believe him and a lot to not believe him.

Originally posted by infinite Overall, Icke says lots of things to believe him and a lot to not believe him.

If you take everything he says at face value then you'd be right.

Unless you listen to the whole story, the parts of it just seem insane.

Take shapeshifting politicians for instance.... people arnt going to beleive that atall untill they know the basics of Quantum Physics

Ickes stuff is NOT, I repeat NOT to be taken at face value.

I've heard that he's a decent source for Illuminati and even the Aliens if you want to go a bit further out on the limb but i reckon he's gone to far with the hologram matrix deal.

Did he actually 'discover' this hologram world BEFORE the Matrix movies came out or after did he decide that was the fate of Earth?

He's either started believing his own thoughts a little too much and painting himself into a paranoid corner where only more and more outlandish ideas can fit the puzzle or he's just trying to cash in now and knows he has a market he can milk.

but do you actually understand his theory of the world being a hologramic illusion?

I would forgive anyone who reads that and instantly dismisses it becase admittidly, it does sound very unbeleivable indeed but when you actually read what its all about and the science behind it, all becomes crystal clear

Don't you feel daft talking about his theory's , just goes to show how silly human beings can be. I watched him on UK tv when he was normal if you follow him you must be a bit braindead.

Originally posted by Bulldog 52
Don't you feel daft talking about his theory's , just goes to show how silly human beings can be. I watched him on UK tv when he was normal if you follow him you must be a bit braindead.

OMFG how stubborn can people get?

AS I've said over and over again: LOOK INTO THE STUFF HE TALKS ABOUT BEFORE YOU COME TO A DECISION.

All your going by is an instinctive reaction based entirely on the very logic, rules and perceptions designed to override your brain with a conditioned type of response which dead ends you're thinking and terminates debate or examination of the topic at hand. For example, the mention of the word "conspiracy" often solicits a slide response with many people.

First thing that came to my mind was one incident in Moscow park, when tall extraterestrial were landed, I don't know if it was truth, but it was on TV that night, it was long ago but that I remember, they were tall!

I think you have to be on drugs or have a serious personality disorder to believe in David, if you think the Queen of England is a Reptilian Shapeshifter , you are a sad person. How can you believe in this Bull#? ITS NOT TRUE

Originally posted by Driver
but do you actually understand his theory of the world being a hologramic illusion?

I would forgive anyone who reads that and instantly dismisses it becase admittidly, it does sound very unbeleivable indeed but when you actually read what its all about and the science behind it, all becomes crystal clear

To be honost i haven't read that book of his about the 'matrix' but i've read a few interviews with him talking about it, but really, you can talk anyone into believing anything if they want to believe it.

I'm sure he hits the mark now and then with his Illuminati theories but he just seems to keep going on with his ideas rather than stopping and actually proving one before taking the next step forward. Each book he releases is always one step futher out there than the last yet, for example, he still has no proof of shape-shifting other than speculation. You can't say 'this exsists and is real, therfore....' without proof and then leave it at that and continue to expand on something that's yet to be proven in the first place.

I just find it odd that this next step in his theory made sense to him after Keanu entered the Matrix. Where was he on that theory before all that? Surely if he was on the right track, his investigation would of led him to the Matrix theory. Why did it make sense to him after the movie?

I'm not convinced he's honost and believes EVERYTHING he says but if he does, he's going to talk himself out of his own exsistance soon and implode because he's painting himself into a corner where only more and more outlandish ideas can possible fit into the puzzle.

Originally posted by Bulldog 52
I think you have to be on drugs or have a serious personality disorder to believe in David, if you think the Queen of England is a Reptilian Shapeshifter , you are a sad person. How can you believe in this Bull#? ITS NOT TRUE

No you do not need to be on drugs to listen and understand what he says rather you need to look at the bigger picture.

Cure for cancer has been here for YEARS at least since 1934, so yep he's right on that one. www.macrobiotic.org...

There are quite a few different secret societies that have EXTREMLY high profile bankers, politicians and financial advisors. It all started with The Round Table which was started at Oxford University and then groups sort of spawned off from that one, Especially the Bilderberg group www.bilderberg.org.

Everything is Energy (Vibrations, Sounds) it has been proven.

Now think about if the Queen really was a shapeshifting reptilian then don't you think Icke would be dead by now, then again if he was right and they just let carry on the "silly" theories people would just dismiss it, right???

The Mayans www.crystalinks.com... had 20 calenders and could easily be 100% smarter than ANY civilisation today but if evolution serves correct then we should be waaaaay smarter than people who lived 3000 years ago, don't you think.

Now the sound of shapeshifting reptiles is stupid unless of course its in a movie but then again in the early 1900's people said that you CANNOT transfer a document through wires now we can talk with others thousands of miles away in seconds.

Now the my fav. subject BANKS you really think the president of the US is the most powerful man in the world, ha. I pity the fool that believes this.
Banks are probly the most powerful entities on the planet as they and ONLY they can put country(s) into recession or make the economy boom. Its all down to the flow of cash.

“Give me control of a nation’s money, and I care not who writes its laws…” Meyer Armschel Rothschild 1790

“If you want to be the slaves of banks and pay the cost of your own slavery, then let the banks create money..” Josiah Stamp, Governor of the Bank of England 1920

The increase in loans created by banks over the years is conclusive proof that banks do create “money” out of nothing – in Britain loans etc. amounted to £1.2 billion in 1948. The figure was £14 billion by 1963 rising to £680 billion by 1997and by 2003, bolstered by the boom in property prices and increase in mortgages to support them, it had reached close to £1200 billion [11]. These are big increases in real terms even allowing for inflation – it is these which have enabled the economy to expand enormously, and as a result living standards for many people have improved substantially.... but it has been done on borrowed money. What is credit to the bank is debt to the rest of us.

EVERY bank in its entirety is a "Private Company" even the Fed. reserve and the Bank of England all they do is make money out of nothing and charge you for loans. Basically "usery".

There is sooooooo much more to research but this is just 00000000.1% of it.

Regarding the Draconian reptilians.

I dont think the question is weather they exist or not, I think the question you guys are asking is weather they are behind the scenes running the world and possessing the body and mind of major politicians.

Well it is true, they really do posess the bodies of major politicians because all major politicians are selected from special Illuminati bloodlines that were originally seeded by the Draconians at the time when they were genetically engineering the human race alongside the Annukai, Saurions, ect.

These Illuminati bloodlines carry a special DNA structure that allows the Draco's to posess the body more easily than normal DNA and that is why interbreeding is so common within these bloodlines and especially royal lboodlines.... that is the reason they do it.... to keep the DNA structure as strong and pure as possible.

Also the proof for this is quite large.

Some widely viewed talk show in USA had some high-ranking US politician on for a chat and the two hosts said at the end of the chow that they saw both his hands turn into reptillian green scaled skin and then back again.

Also, Cathy o' Brian wrote her book "Trans-Formation of America" about the mind control and the truth that the Draconians really ar ein control.

She said she could see whole coktail parties of major politicans as 12ft reptilians and large overshadowing winged draco's walknig behind them constantly.

Then theres all the trillions of government workers and secret project workers that confirm this too.

It is very very real, we have just been bred to take such stuff as fantasy.

Sorry but the guy claimed to A) Be the Godhead and B) Be Jesus, on T.V. that I watched. ( I also watched him play as a goal keeper).

How can we take anything he says seriously after he said that on a live T.V. show?

Originally posted by Odium
Sorry but the guy claimed to A) Be the Godhead and B) Be Jesus, on T.V. that I watched. ( I also watched him play as a goal keeper).

How can we take anything he says seriously after he said that on a live T.V. show?

Hahahaa, what he meant was totally differant to what I bet you're thinking.

He said Messiah, not Jesus and he meant that he is here to spread the truth and supressed information which is what he is doing today.

What he meant by godhead is that veeryone is a piece of god, oneness.

No, not Messiah, where did I type that? He claimed to be the second coming, he got laughed out of British Media for well over a year because of it. Not a Prophat, not the Messiah, but the Second Coming of the Christ.

(If you mean Messiah as: "One who is anticipated as, regarded as, or professes to be a savior or liberator." although really it should mean: "The anticipated savior of the Jews/Christians.")

Originally posted by Odium
No, not Messiah, where did I type that? He claimed to be the second coming, he got laughed out of British Media for well over a year because of it. Not a Prophat, not the Messiah, but the Second Coming of the Christ.

(If you mean Messiah as: "One who is anticipated as, regarded as, or professes to be a savior or liberator." although really it should mean: "The anticipated savior of the Jews/Christians.")

well it was his early years on the subject and he's learnt loads since then.

Originally posted by Driver
Regarding the Draconian reptilians.

These Illuminati bloodlines carry a special DNA structure that allows the Draco's to posess the body more easily than normal DNA and that is why interbreeding is so common within these bloodlines and especially royal lboodlines.... that is the reason they do it.... to keep the DNA structure as strong and pure as possible.

Extra DNA in the world leaders? Well then it should be easy to prove without a doubt.

Bush for example isn't untouchable, we see pictures and video of him shaking hands and talking to people all the time. Out of all these leaders surely we'd be able to get a hair sample in the least?

Get a Bush hair (hell, even one of his daughters, brothers etc should have this DNA trait right?) do a test on it and discover the extra strands and prove once and for all that these people are not pure human forms.

Has this ever been done or is this reptillian bloodline pure speculation?

I don't doubt that there are certain bloodlines and families who are put into power positions, the Bush family for one is easily tracable but to suggest as FACT that this bloodline is controlled by shapeshifting reptillian aliens who have extra DNA without actually doing a test, it's going to an extreme which isn't neccessary and it causes debunking and it causes people to right you off.

David Icke may have it right that your born into a powerful position or joining Skull & Bones for example gets you there, but it's a blind leap to say that equals shapeshifting aliens.

He's either talked himself into a pyschological disorder or he's making disinformation on purpose to make these links seem outlandish. A royal bloodline is enough of a conspiracy let alone twisting it with a direct Alien DNA reptillian shapeshifting angle.