Have any of you seen Aurora?

i'm here to help uncover the truth not joke around . check out these 2 pages no real pics but some good info though..

www.desertsecrets.com...

www.area51zone.com...

Aroura is a military jet funded by the USAF in testing since the late 90's and is an attempt to move away from multi-role interceptor/strike fighter designs and create a platform of single target, low tolerance bombing missions with the minimum of detectability and highest pilot-safety.

"Aroura" is the project name for this, and the current air-model is unknown to me, but when I was at the US air base in Brugen, Germany in 2001, I saw what I personally believe now was a part of the aroura project in the hangers by the admin building, if any of you have ever been posted to elmpt, it was the big one next to the 2 C130 recon pads.

Anyway, as far as I can personally gather, Aroura is a ramjet powered (Yes, its a real technology with real applications, check out Richard Branson's purchase of the engine for civilian application with Virgin!) atmospheric/extra-atmospheric bomber, with the essentials of dumb-bomb systems, related to a sattelite-based targeting system and a self-guiding warhead similar to the old paveway pennys (back then, anyway)

So I imagine, the aroura pops up about 18-25km, drops back into the atmosphere level and deploys its weapon, and then promptly gets lost in the other direction, without the huge signature that a cruise missile has, but retaining the destructive capability and accuracy.

Hope that was some use guys!

LCpl Braun

The Canadian one or the Oldsmobile?

Originally posted by rich_wn_2002
Aroura is a military jet funded by the USAF in testing since the late 90's and is an attempt to move away from multi-role interceptor/strike fighter designs and create a platform of single target, low tolerance bombing missions with the minimum of detectability and highest pilot-safety.

"Aroura" is the project name for this, and the current air-model is unknown to me, but when I was at the US air base in Brugen, Germany in 2001, I saw what I personally believe now was a part of the aroura project in the hangers by the admin building, if any of you have ever been posted to elmpt, it was the big one next to the 2 C130 recon pads.

Anyway, as far as I can personally gather, Aroura is a ramjet powered (Yes, its a real technology with real applications, check out Richard Branson's purchase of the engine for civilian application with Virgin!) atmospheric/extra-atmospheric bomber, with the essentials of dumb-bomb systems, related to a sattelite-based targeting system and a self-guiding warhead similar to the old paveway pennys (back then, anyway)

So I imagine, the aroura pops up about 18-25km, drops back into the atmosphere level and deploys its weapon, and then promptly gets lost in the other direction, without the huge signature that a cruise missile has, but retaining the destructive capability and accuracy.

What a wonderful fantasy account!

The only reason we know about Aurora (not Aroura) is from a 1985 budget report, not the late 90s. After 1986 it hasnt appeared at all, it may still have been funded but it might also have been cancelled by the late 90s.

Second, ramjets are well known technology that have been used for about a century now, infact they are one of the main sources of propulsion for missiles. I think you might be thinking of scramjets which are currently in development. Also ramjets are air breathing so cant be used outside the atmosphere as you seem to think, therefore if this plane has ramjets it must also have rockets or some other type of engine if it wants to leave the atmosphere.

I have never seen it, but I have a whole page about the Aurora. To see this page, go to www.fas.org...



[edit on 10-4-2007 by galm 1]

Richwm2002, Just a quick correction.....Royal Air Force Bruggen has been a British base since the 50's and transferred to a BAOR base in 2002/2003. The Admin building you refer to was/is a passenger air terminal and the large hanger I think you are referring to would have been full of Tornados undergoing maintenance.

I was based there for 5 years and have never seen anything strange but have heard the pulseing roar supposed to be associated with a PWDE engine quite a few times in the late 90's in the early hours of the morning.

This was about the time when Bruggen was being used to stage strike missions involving Tornado's and VC10 tankers to Yugoslavia so it might of been a recon A/C doing a roller or a flyby as there ain't no Methane or Hydrogen storage facilities at any of the POL sites at Bruggen.

I am not having a go at your post...just giving other members the correct facts about RAF Bruggen or Fluggenplatz Elmpt as it is known to the German population.

Sv...Out!

Sorry no pics except the ones in my head and no I'm not crazy (I hope)

In early 1986 I was on the southern outskirts of Sydney, Australia on a windless cloudless moonless night (perfect for stargazing) about 9-10pm trying to catch a glimpse of Halley's comet as it left the solar system when stars to the north of the comet's position just disappeared. The density of stars in that area prevented me making an estimate of the size and shape of the object that blocked them but I was able the track the movement of the shadow across the sky from north to south. As it crossed the milky way the shape was clearly a perfect triangle and there was no sound or visible lights of any kind. I couldn't estimate it altitude but I got the feeling it was fairly high up which would make it gigantic in size and the motion was like something lighter than air.

As it proceeded into the relatively dark background of the southern sky travelling in a straight N-S line I could only estimate where it was and look for the shadow to block the occasional star in its path but as it got to around 40 degree elevation I heard 2 jets travelling very fast (but subsonic) from the NNE and NNW which were converging on the object's position at high speed at an altitude of at least 2000' further confirming the altitude of the object and the apparently immense size of it. The lights of these aircraft were quite visible but the object remained black. Now this was very odd behaviour for private aircraft in civilian airspace so I have no doubt they were military and obviously heading for what I was watching but as they neared its position it seemed to simply disappear. I couldn't tell in the black sky whether it sped off or whatever but it was simply gone and the jets were circling the last position of it for a few minutes before apparently giving up and both returning to the NNW which funnily enough would take them back to the major airforce base north of Sydney.

I never said anything about this experience for many years but kept a close watch on newspapers etc for a while to see if anyone ever reported the same thing but there was nothing I ever saw to corroborate the event. Without the involvement of the jets I probably would have never said anything about it knowing how such claimants have been recieved in the past. There must be a record of this event somewhere but as far as I know it remains hushed up.

I didn't get the feeling it was extra-terrestial but the apparent size and ease of its motion challenged my knowledge of aircraft technology and propulsion systems at the time and still does. I did consider that maybe it was the only cloud in the sky but perfectly triangular, pointy end first, totally non-transparent right to the edges at all times (the shape was constant and very sharply defined) and last of all - how many clouds warrant (presumed) military investigation which seems to indicate it appeared on radar as well and it's path almost directly over Sydney's busy Kingsford-Smith airport would cause concern of that degree if it was indeed an unidentifed mystery object.

For the record: at the time I was 36 with a young family, non-drinker, no drugs, actively employed in electrical engineering and not prone to hallucinations/delusions

The conspiracy tales of super secret aircraft with revolutionary propulsion fit this thing perfectly except why would such a classified gadget be put out in such plain sight (for those lucky enough to be looking in the right place at the right time anyway) and potentially creating a major hazard for domestic airliners? I'd expect such a secret thing to be flown in exclusively secret places.

I'd just like to know whether such a machine could have been manmade and operational in 1986 plus how it could remain hidden technology for so long...

Better take an aspirin now

I should add that the estimated size of this object was sufficient to block out a full moon high in the sky and if the jets were at the same altitude as the delta they could concievably have landed on top of it.

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The object you descibed reminds me of another project (not aircraft) that has been in operational development for over a decade. The technology was limited at the time to objects under 5 pounds and not biological. The project involved basically moving plastic boxes using a energy wave (yes much like a tractor beam). This is done by binding material properties using energy (a modification to magnatism which is charging the surface of a conductive material). Now thinking about it the possibility of using that same technology for aircraft would make it silent. If anyone is familiar with Star Wars technology it is repulsorlift wich is basically creating an energy blanket some distance under an object or benind and making both entities charged alike thus they will repel eachother. This would be easy if the material to push against was Nitrogen being a large part of the atmosphere.

So yes you are probably totally sane. The technology exists, to my knowladge it did not exist as efficient as to provide enough force to propel an aircraft but we know what happens with efficiency. Much like with magnets the first magnet could barely pick up a couple of needles, now they pick up objects the size of small houses...sometimes large houses if you have an advanced electromagnet.

Though the military may have this technology to this extent classified look up some articles on anti-gravity. Private sectors and universities are all researching this feild so the basis of the technology is out there, there is just no proof that it has been applied.

Also from what I have heard in the Intelegence. What you think you are searching for as the new top secret aircraft is old news. They are already probably developing a new plane with newer technology than this. When the F-22 ("Lightning II") became the "Raptor" they already had another Project completed. The Raptor was part of the ATF project and when it went into prodction the JSF project was already complete.

You should see some of the other technology out there dealing with non-particle feilds and accelerated particle feilds. You can imagine it even if you look at what Fermi has come up with.

-I just want them to declasify it before I buy a new car...

I apologize for the F-22 Lightning II mistake. Correction Y-22 Lightning was pre-production F-22 Raptor if anyone caught the error.

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Actually no... Buick =/= Oldsmobile... and Oldsmobile =/= Buick... if that was the case then i Buick wouldn't currently be making cars anymore