It's been a month - so where is it??

www.cnn.com...

I'm not going to discuss should have/ shouldn't have with
Terri Schiavo. I just want to know one thing for closure ....

It was one month ago today that the autopsy of Terri Schiavo was
completed. We were told it would be released in 'a few weeks'.
Well ... it has been a MONTH. So, where is it? What's the hold up?
Did they think we would have forgotten because of all the Pope news?
What's in the report that they are holding back on telling us about?

I'm starting to wonder .... CONSPIRACY

It shouldn't have taken 'a few weeks' to fill out paperwork on an
autopsy that was completed in a few hours. It shouldn't take a
few weeks, let alone a whole month with no autopsy in sight.

What's going on?? hmmmmmm ....

I got my copy in the mail weeks ago.

Didn't you sign up at NONEOFYOURBUSNIESS.NOSY.DEADHORSE.COM?

I did.

If memory serves many said it could take 6 weeks to two months before it would be made public. I wouldn't go screaming "conspiracy!" quite yet...

Rant .. this has become everyone's business. If a person on death
row was put to death, and then later evidence arose that showed
that person was innocent, that would be everyone's business, right?
I see this as much the same. The autopsy will either vindicate the
husband or it will give evidence that will help make sure this type
of situation doesn't happen again.

DJ .. you heard two months? Last I heard it was 'a few weeks'.
What the heck is taking so long? It's been a month. The autopsy
only took a few hours for crying out loud!!

Lets get the information so we can either put this to rest for the
husband or have him investigated for attempted murder. Also
we need the info so we can get moving on it to make sure no one is
starved to death in this country ever again.

There HAS to be a better way of doing things!

Originally posted by FlyersFan
Rant .. this has become everyone's business. If a person on death
row was put to death, and then later evidence arose that showed
that person was innocent, that would be everyone's business, right?
I see this as much the same. The autopsy will either vindicate the
husband or it will give evidence that will help make sure this type
of situation doesn't happen again.

Just because its in the media, it doesnt make it our business, if I was the one in either place, i would still feel its NONE of your Business.

I understand what you are saying, but it really is society's business.
A murderer would love to say that what he/she did was no one's
business, but it is. A person has been accused by half the country
of murder. An autopsy will either put that to rest, or help justice
come to a murderer ... both of which are society's business.

Sometimes society has to get involved for change to happen. If
society had said apathied wasn't their business .. then S. Africa
would still have it. If society had said slavery wasn't it's business
then we'd still have slavery here in America. If society had said
that child abuse wasn't it's business, then abused children would
have no place safe to go. If society had said that spouse abuse
wasn't it's business, there would be no safe place for battered
women to go.

This is society's business. An attempted murder may have
happened. The person responsible is still out on the street and
even has a woman and two children living under his roof.
Evidence needs to be gathered. And if the evidence says that
there was no foul play, then society needs to be involved to
help ensure that the media doesn't demonize people again.

Originally posted by FlyersFan
I understand what you are saying, but it really is society's business.
A murderer would love to say that what he/she did was no one's
business, but it is. A person has been accused by half the country
of murder. An autopsy will either put that to rest, or help justice
come to a murderer ... both of which are society's business.

I guess we will have to agree to disagree, because Im not going to argue about this, this man lived for 15 years with her like this. ALL WE KNOW, is what the media tells us, thats not a good source.

I feel an autopsy isnt going to tell you of any kind abuse, atleast in this case. All it might be able to tell is if she was "awake" in her state.

The husban isnt the only one to blame, the judge's ruled for her to be unpluged from the food.


If the found something, nothing would happen. NOTHING, are they going to put him or the judges in jail? NO, so let them move on, I would want to.

[edit on 2-5-2005 by SpittinCobra]

Flyers Fan -- I really don't think you will see this in the news and if by chance it is in the papers it will be so far back no one will read it. Most people really aren't that interested in the results as they have made up their mind on the case already. Also if there was any evidence of mistreatment by her husband (which I doubt) I would think that it would be gone after 15 years of being in a hospital in a coma.

About a week ago I heard some quick snippet on the news that said no evidence of abuse was found. I dont know if the autopsy report is out or not and I assumed that there would be more on the story and I could catch it later (you know how the 24 hour news channels LOVE to repeat everything every hour) but I never heard another peep about it.

I think the entire ordeal was horrible and I'm sad that the husband didn't just turn over the rights to the parents when he choose to move on and have children with another woman.

Everyone has learned the importance of a living will from this, however, I think there should be something on the books that if a surviving spouse has power of attorney but moves on and starts a new relationship and family, if another family member wants guardianship of the patient it should be granted.

Sad, sad situation all the way around.

Jemison

OVER TWO MONTHS NOW.

Where is it??

And yes .. this IS our business. The family made it such
when it appealed to America to pray and fight to save
a life. If there is foul play involved with the initial
injury/illness that caused her disability then it is all
of our business' that the perp be brought to justice.

It certainly shouldn't take more than two months to
do an autopsy. WHERE is it??

*cough* HIPPA Laws *cough*

If there is no criminal finding then its the husbands choice to make her medical record public. Perhaps he does not want to do so as is his right.

Remember that her husband and her "family" have different interests

[edit on 6/2/05 by FredT]

If no foul play was found, then the husband would want it to
be known to clear his name.

As far as her 'family' .. why did you put it in quotes like that?
Her mother and father ARE her family. So are siblings. There
is no quotes about it. It's her husband that had 'left' and
had been living with another woman .. and having children with her.

It's been over two months... where is it???

Originally posted by FlyersFan
If no foul play was found, then the husband would want it to
be known to clear his name.

Of what? Inuendo spread by the zealots at his doorstep? No, if you do not feed the trolls it will go away.

Furthermore there is no need to clear his name. if there was any suspicius findings, the ME is obligated to turn the case over to the police for further investigation.

It's generally been accepted that anorexia led to certain electrolyte imbalances which resulted in Schiavo's brain being deprived of oxygen.

The autopsy isn't really about deciding the cause of death - we already know this was starvation and dehydration. The main reason both sides wanted an autopsy was to verify how much (or how little) viable brain matter was present at the time.

Regardless, the husband was her legal next of kin. Legally (morally might be a different matter), he did in fact have the right to decide what would happen.

I sat and watched various videos of Terri, and sadly I'm not convinced that she did have a chance of recovery. That's just my opinion though, based on both what I saw, and what I've studied (I spent years working in the pharmaceutical industry).

Out of interest, what reasons are there for a potential criminal inquiry?

Maybe you aren't hearing anything because the reports are out and it doesn't support what you want it to support. And the families (both sides) just want to put it behind them so they aren't pushing for it to be in the news.

And I have typed this three times and no matter how I put it - it comes out sounding harsh - and that isn't what I mean it to sound like. But --- most people have moved on from this -- if the family isn't making a fuss about it not being published yet maybe they just don't want it to be published. If it doesn't support what they wanted or if they are just tired and want to move on -- it is their business not ours. And I am referring to both sides of the family when I am saying this.

Originally posted by justme1640
Maybe you aren't hearing anything because the reports are out and it doesn't support what you want it to support. And the families (both sides) just want to put it behind them so they aren't pushing for it to be in the news.

And I have typed this three times and no matter how I put it - it comes out sounding harsh - and that isn't what I mean it to sound like. But --- most people have moved on from this -- if the family isn't making a fuss about it not being published yet maybe they just don't want it to be published. If it doesn't support what they wanted or if they are just tired and want to move on -- it is their business not ours. And I am referring to both sides of the family when I am saying this.

Some of us are interested from a purely clinical standpoint

Besides - the situation garnered so much publicity, it would be incredibly unlikely for the media not to grab ahold and publish the findings.

Not everyone has an emotional investment in this....I'm curious to see the findings from a medical point of view. S'all

Originally posted by Tinkleflower

Besides - the situation garnered so much publicity, it would be incredibly unlikely for the media not to grab ahold and publish the findings.

I actually think that the media is much more fickle than that. I think the media got what they could out of it and washed their hand of it. Media is concerned about sales and numbers and I am sure they think that this is yesterday's news. If people were hammering them to publish it or if the family were demanding it then I am sure they would publish it somewhere - maybe as I said earlier in the thread in the back of the paper where you would have to search for it. But they (the media) would have to feel they would get something out of it or we won't see it.


[edit on 10-6-2005 by justme1640]

I respectfully disagree..

Whilst the media is indeed the most fickle of animals, this story was just too big for them to ignore what they'd probably perceive as a vital piece of the picture.

That, and afaik both "sides" haven't exactly come to a friendly agreement about things - I really do think that whoever was proven to be more right, would waste no time in villifying the other side. Specially the husband - he'd want the public to know he wasn't the callous murderer that he's being called.

I'll keep a lookout though, and report if I find anything.

Originally posted by FredT
if you do not feed the trolls it will go away.

that's not the way it works at ATS or BTS.
The trolls keep trolling away .. even when they
are ignored. They seem to have a need to
'save us' from our ignorance or our being damned
or whatever.

Just to let you know that on Good Morning America they said that the results will be out today. I don't know what time but wanted to note this for all who were interested.