National Socialism

To many they think of National Socialist as racists. Nazis are not so much about racism as much they are about being allowed the most they can possibly become without being plagued by social parasites who have no nation of their own. The Nazi parties of the past attempted to do this by genocide which really gave them a bad image. Deportation of social parasites is far more effective and cheaper. In the U.S.A. we would be better off if we deported the mexicans to mexico and repatriotriate the blacks to africa(not their fault they were brought here and should be given the option to leave) if they wish not to leave and be productive lets have seperate communities and try to develop the country more fully. Under National Socialism the Education system would be held responsible for turning out uneducated people. Multicultralism must be abandoned since it is counter productive.

Hail Hitler to you too...



Man i dont see how mulitculturalism is being counter productive... in fact by embracing a wide variety of cultures a nation can learn from a wider range of experiences, and wisom...

Thats what i dont get, its ok to be multi-cultural as long as it is not pride in a european background, according to some you ought to be ashamed to be white.
i am not really a National Sociaist i was really interested to see responses but as you can see only an asian had the nerve to touch this thread.

Its funny how no-one else posted here... but i guess they saw National Socialism and decided that it was a neo-nazi thread...

So your not actually National Socialistic, cool, even if you were it wouldnt bother me, people are entitled to their views, despite how #ed up they may be...

My theory is be proub of who you are not what you are... i dont take pride in my background coz i had nothing to do with that so being proud of it doesnt make sense... i'm proud of my achievements though

I'm not ashamed to be white, but I'm not necessarily proud either.
I had no say in what colour I was going to be born.
I didn't ask to be white. I didn't choose my place or time of birth.
If I hadn't been born at all, would I know? You can't lose something that hasn't been. I'm not going to feel pride over something just because I happened to be born there at that time.
I have absolutely no control over what other "white" people have done in the past. I have some control over what "white" people do now, or at least maybe some potential to.
But I can really only be ashamed or proud of my own actions or those I am involved in. The colour of my skin is totally irrelevant. My skin colour is a tree,
and as we know a lot of people can't see past it. Black and white.
Why should I feel anything about what other "white people" have done?
We're not the only race to have done bad things. No one is innocent.
We should learn from our history, but if we keep hanging on to that history, like it's a life raft, we will never get past it.
It becomes our excuse for not doing what we know is the right thing. To let go and love without condition. Because unless we do that we are doomed to failure as the Human race.

I don't care if that sound soppy. Think about it...

Damn double post sorry DOH!

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Hey i appreciate you guys not jumping up and down saying "he's a nazi!". I appreciate the feedback.

I don't think multinationalism is couter productive, as it's not the race or nationality of a person that really causes the problems inherantly.

Culture and man's inherant weakness is the problem, and you really can't get rid of that. Any solution would be too costly, and fought to vigorously to really be of any effect other than stirring the pot.

Originally posted by Trustnone
Multicultralism must be abandoned since it is counter productive.

- I'd love to hear how else do we ensure as diverse a human genetic mix as possible if we "abandon multiculturalism".

We now know that genetic specialisation (ie refusing to mix and be multiculturally diverse) is about as stupid a strategy for a successful human race as it's possible to devise.

At least nazis of a by gone age kind of had the excuse of not being aware of or not understanding such concepts.
It seems nazi self-loathing is so deep they'd deliberately have humanity follow such a self-harming 'idea'?

Not exactly too bright is it?

Thats what i dont get, its ok to be multi-cultural as long as it is not pride in a european background, according to some you ought to be ashamed to be white.

- This is just nonsense.
It's perfectly ok to have a 'pride' in a european background, it's the personally unearned superiority complex this idea of 'pride' is usually code for that is the ludicrous and highly laughable 'problem'.

i am not really a National Sociaist i was really interested to see responses but as you can see only an asian had the nerve to touch this thread.

- Naaaaa, that's not it IMO.
I'd be serious cash money most folks are just bored rigid and see no point whatsoever in an extended chewing over such a dumb and dead concept as nazi-ism or 'national socialism'.

I mean, really, who cares?

It's like expecting people to get worked up about some other long gone historic political system. Napoleonic expansionist empire anyone? Egyptian Pharonic rule?
Blah blah blah.

Nazism or national socialism is a revolting failed dead end only embalmed and cooed over by the dreary predictable handfull dreaming of either being Fuhrer or in desparate need of following one.
Either way it's joined the ranks of the dodo.

I always go along with what Huey P. Newton said:
"White Power,
Black Power,"
etc, he told people to be proud of who you are and where you come from because if you're not proud of yourself it only leads to hateing yourself and when you have hate for yourself you tend to force it onto others. But there is a difference between being proud of yourself and hating another. National Socialism just tends to do the second; hate another.

I'm proud to be "white" as it is labeled now. But I must contribute that, yes, I have seen many of my nephews/nieces talk to me about how they are pretty much "put down" by the culture that they live in now, seeing as they are "white" and if they say "white pride" it is considered racist.

A sad effect of our culture at present.

But as for me, screw that, I'm proud of my (dare I say it, IRA relatives )

(Actually, my relatives were in the IRA when it meant something, not the terrorist group it is today.)

-wD

Trustnone, I agree with you 100%....I am glad to see that finally someone agrees with my thoughts.

Originally posted by Darth Sidious
Trustnone, I agree with you 100%....I am glad to see that finally someone agrees with my thoughts.

So you think we should remove Multiculturalism?

Where are you from? You honestly, do not have anything from another culture? Clothing, food, furniture?

The issues of today are not race but they are religion as they were in the time of Hitler. Though the issues are not what the Jews will do but what will the Muslims do??

I do not blame race for the problems in the world today and it is hard to blame anyone. But I personally do believe many problems in the world will be gone once the Muslim theocratical nations are eliminated. It must be done!

Originally posted by Odium

Originally posted by Darth Sidious
Trustnone, I agree with you 100%....I am glad to see that finally someone agrees with my thoughts.

So you think we should remove Multiculturalism?

Where are you from? You honestly, do not have anything from another culture? Clothing, food, furniture?

I am from New Jersey..to answer your question. I am not saying EVERYTHING from other cultures must be eliminated but some. Techsnows' thoughts are closer to what I am trying to say.

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God. National Socialism. What a friggin nightmare.

I mean, really. I had some neighbors and friends of mine who were skinheads. Some were national socialist. They tried selling me on the idea. I actually pondeder it for about a couple days. Then of course, I laughed. How the hell could I hate non-white races? Its the non-whites who have been the kindest to me and given me unconditional, deep friendship, where as my supposed "own people" have virtually took every chance possible to alienate me, screw me over, and make my life hell. To imagine working towards an all white nation, to be trapped in the same borders with my so called people............Id go mad. What a miserable place the U.S. would be! Needless to say, I declined the offer.

In an all white society, I'd be quickly relegated to the ranks of the undesireables. Im not blonde blue eyed all American WASP. Im certainly no one's racial ideal or dream. And with the way white people at large have treated me, in an all white nation I'd most likely be a street sweeping reject.

I can understand why people are fed up with the current state of multiculturalism as a political tool to forcibly cram certain ideas down peoples throats. But is it the mutitude of cultures to blame, or is it people with agendas, who are usually WHITE, who are using multiculturalism to wrap up other agendas and force them on people?

When I was in school, we had no multicultural programs at school. None were needed. We didn;t need teachers and social staff to force us to like someone elses culture, nor did we need "Cultural awareness" classes or whatever. In fact, the less interference from the establishment, the better we got along. Kids are like that. They don't need some politically motivated program to get them to get along with others of different races and cultures. In my high school, it was something like 35% white kids, and in elementary school, I remember being one of three white kids in my class. Almost always, the very few friends that I did make were not white. Asian kids, from Japanese to Koreans to Chinese, and Mexican kids, were the people I befriended. In junior high, I had a very close friend who was Iranian.

I didnt need some political program to force some ideology down my throat to like them. I naturally did like them because they were genuine, intelligent, and thoughtful kids. Regardless of race.

And like I said, the people pushing multicultural agendas are usually whites who come from nice all white middle class suburbs who usually have something to prove, or have other motivations. So again, its not the non-whites causing problems. Its white people again.

So as far as Im concerned, National Socialism is about as close to hell as a puritan theocracy that bans all forms of fun. An all white nation? No thanks. especially where food is concerned............

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf, you are also right..Its not that I hate every non-white just some make a bad name for their culture/religion.

Originally posted by Techsnow
Though the issues are not what the Jews will do but what will the Muslims do??

How much more do you want them to do?

Take the United Kingdom. They produce newsletters, events, papers, etc. They go on the mainstream news, etc. You know what though, if people do not want to listen what can they do? They can't force them.

Originally posted by Techsnow
I do not blame race for the problems in the world today and it is hard to blame anyone. But I personally do believe many problems in the world will be gone once the Muslim theocratical nations are eliminated. It must be done!

Why should it be done? What gives us the right to do so? What makes us better? I can see many similarities between the United Kingdom and Iran for example. People just tend to put the shutters on when it comes to their own Nation. Also, as can be seen with Iraq invasion, violence, force is not the answer. The people will revolt of their own choice that is when we should offer help. However, we failed the Kurds and the Palestinians now. So I hold little hope we will help anyone at the right time.

Originally posted by Darth Sidious
I am from New Jersey..to answer your question. I am not saying EVERYTHING from other cultures must be eliminated but some. Techsnows' thoughts are closer to what I am trying to say.

This is what I see in the U.K. all the time. In fact, from many people world over. It's the irony of China's largest fast food being KFC. The United Kingdom picking the curry as their favourite food. It's amusing how when Muslims serve us food, it's fine but when they walk down the street in traditional clothing there's a problem?

There will always be bad apples. But, by forcing them out of society we create more not less. The whole idea that terrorists promote is that the West is bad. It's controlled by Jews and Christians who hate Muslims. Who want to harm them, force them to be slaves. So why promote the idea they put forward? Either the terrorists are right or they're wrong? But saying Multiculturalism should be removed or they should, won't ever change things.

Odium its not about helping them anymore.

There is no help for them. Now, it is a matter of elimination. They want to eliminate us more than we do them. We HAVE given Iraq democracy and thats great but how long will the strife go on? It could be a long time... religious roots are deep and unless religion is eliminated by free will it is very hard to destroy other wise.

But in order to get a clear picture of the situation you have to examine the whole picture. There are currently how many muslim theocratical nations in the world?

Are we supposed to just sit by and let these muslim nations gain more power to support there insane ideals and way of life? Do we want to be under the rule of this religion?

I for one have examined the Muslim religion closely and I know how the religion was started (war) and I know what the religion is about to this day (war). Where is it going.. let me guess.. war?

As I've said before this is what is going on, people wake up. There is a real threat in the world that has to be dealt with and we can't just sit idle while they gain power over the years. Sure they don't have nukes today but tomorrow.. then what do we do? The time is now.

[edit on 13-7-2006 by Techsnow]

Originally posted by Techsnow
Odium its not about helping them anymore.

There is no help for them. Now, it is a matter of elimination. They want to eliminate us more than we do them. We HAVE given Iraq democracy and thats great but how long will the strife go on? It could be a long time... religious roots are deep and unless religion is eliminated by free will it is very hard to destroy other wise.

But in order to get a clear picture of the situation you have to examine the whole picture. There are currently how many muslim theocratical nations in the world?

Are we supposed to just sit by and let these muslim nations gain more power to support there insane ideals and way of life? Do we want to be under the rule of this religion?

I for one have examined the Muslim religion closely and I know how the religion was started (war) and I know what the religion is about to this day (war). Where is it going.. let me guess.. war?

As I've said before this is what is going on, people wake up. There is a real threat in the world that has to be dealt with and we can't just sit idle while they gain power over the years. Sure they don't have nukes today but tomorrow.. then what do we do? The time is now.

[edit on 13-7-2006 by Techsnow]

Just for all you would be National Socialist supporters or sympathizers, if you are anti-Muslim or do not agree with Islamic agression towards Israel, then National Socialism is definitely not for you.

In fact, the vast majority of white supremecist groups support Palestinian terrorist attacks and Arab anti-Israeli sentiment. Why? Because they, like the Arabs see the Jews as the source of all evil, and are willing to set aside racial ideas to support anyone who makes eliminating Jews a culture. So I wouldnt get your black armbands out just yet.