Kuji-in

They say europian cur suburbanites are culture stealing sheep. Well if you came from a picture perfect punch card neighbourhood in "the new world" like me you'd understand. It's not that we don't have respect for the origin of the cultures we draw to, it's simply a mass amount of embarrasment generating anxity we get from a lack of honest history, causes excitment and feelings of ownership for that wich has years behind it. (plus alot of our culture is stealing from others...very sadly)

That's my attempt at an apology and an explanation ... forgive us.

I love Japan. many things about the people and culture seam beyond beauty.

With great respect and thankfulness i ask to know as much of the Kuji-in as possible.

If anyone has info on where i can learn the complete history and meathodology of this beautiful human tradition i would be very greatful. So far i only know a breif history and the main 9 cuts, i've heard that completed it spans 81.

If you've never heard of the Kuji-in AKA the Nine Powers, or the Nine Cuts: shell.world-net.co.nz...
This is the most common info i can find on it. But i can't imagine how much i'm missing out on.

Much love to those who have let me see this.

[edit on 4/28/2005 by VaporTrail]

ok so..

nobody's heard of the Kuji-in?

I have read about it...when I was about 13 I think...

I believe it was in a book by some Ashida Kim, some ninja book. I can't remember the name though.

The question is, "is it real?"

As with Native American traditions, a lot of eager Westerners bought into the mysitcism and the ninja arts and things like this. When elders (as with the Native Americans) didn't want to share, some invented their own traditions from what they could find out. Some used half-learned teachings from other students and invented the rest.

Some used old techniques and found they didn't have much use here in the modern world and changed and adapted them --as with the Native Americans.

Some just made up things completely because of the commercial interest in the subject (Lynn Andrews is one who does this for Native American knowledge and has done more to damage the relations between Native Americans and everyone else with her offensive, made-up traditions... and yet she has a huge following because she's "revealing secrets.")

What you seek may not be real or may be as false as the "Native American BirthSign Totems."

I can definatly vouch that it is real. It is not a form of magic like i hoped it would be at first. It is much simpler..

The Kuji-in (at the level i am studying) is "merly" a meditation technique. Forcing the body and mind to ponder on specefic ideas in conjunction with chi flow, or calling upon reiki if you will.

It has opened up new levels of understanding in me in only a short 6 months. And i mean opened!

My feeling is that it gains power and "reality" from it's popularity, as would the power of the esoteric forms gain reality from their secrecy and respect. It's just thoughts in the astral. you put enough of them there, they will eventually become foundated. You hide a few of them there, and surround them with the attitude of a holy grail, the simple human desire for them to exist will give them power beyond understanding.

The Kuji-in may have been made up at some point. (as all things are) but it has definatly moved on it's course collecting a beautiful set of energys that can truely improve ballance in the seeker. Byrd, i encourage to give the nine cuts a try, if you're into meditation at all. It (in it's simpleest, and most none magical form) is still a wonderful faculty for the development of universal understanding.

I encourage all of you to look it up, and let it find you... Who knows one of you may be closer to the graces of the 81 cuts than i am, then you'd be the connection to it for me.

It's powerful knowlegde we must understand and share.


[edit on 5/12/2005 by VaporTrail]

Originally posted by VaporTrail
The Kuji-in (at the level i am studying) is "merly" a meditation technique. Forcing the body and mind to ponder on specefic ideas in conjunction with chi flow, or calling upon reiki if you will.

This has a fairly "western" feel to it.

It's just thoughts in the astral. you put enough of them there, they will eventually become foundated. You hide a few of them there, and surround them with the attitude of a holy grail, the simple human desire for them to exist will give them power beyond understanding.

That's DEFINATELY Western. In fact, that comes from the Romantic movement here in the US and England in 1900 or so and is very much what was taught in the 1960's in many of the "mystical" courses.

I think that's why you can't find any other information on it and why if you took it to Japan that you would get NO information on it.

Byrd, i encourage to give the nine cuts a try, if you're into meditation at all. It (in it's simpleest, and most none magical form) is still a wonderful faculty for the development of universal understanding.

I'm not, but I will give it a try. I find that a good course in culture and physics is better for developing my 'universal understanding.'

I have read just recently that meditation is good for you. Couldn't hurt, y'know?

(edited to add... I *have* seen the hand positions elsewhere but they were in relation to Buddhism and meditation (if memory serves))


[edit on 13-5-2005 by Byrd]

HI,

in answer to your question, here is a place where you can see someone practice kuji-in: www.livemaster.org...

And you can get information on how to start learning the technique here:
www.dragonsofjustice.org...

Hope it helps you.

dope!

thanks a bunch tel!!!

makes the way i've been doing it seam like a joke. I still get lots out of it.

cheers

I didn't get alot out of it at all, I got a copy of the first "Ninja Mind Control" and I was undergoing severe depression and anxiety attack's, and the "Evil Thought's" jinxed me, but never the less the Grand Tour is good for you. The Second Copy is far better without the Evil Thought's bit, I was far better with Raja Yoga and Pratyahara but never the less it seems just the same really. It's the same with Reiki except Reiki has a better vanilla "tag" to it.

Do Tai Chi & Chi Gung - it is all the same thing, Grand Tour's are effective like Autogenic's and Biofeedback in warming the body mind and in self-healing's. I do however practice hard meme negation whenever possible, to dissolve the throat chakra endless rambling's, I mean my Mind is full of ridiculous garbage, you know Engram's and such like.

I did so I could hear other's thought's and lo I did and they can of mine's, mingled with a form of colour healing it can heal other's and your self. Throw the Doctor's out with the Baby's bathwater. It's worth it, though if you are like me I have had Bad Soul rumination's then you are buggered hard in the arse. Ach well.

How about Weather Control experiment's then? To me the Tao is nothing without form and endless, I do Wu Wei I do, which is non-doing.

[edit on 1-9-2006 by blingblong]

Respect.

throat chakra... ho damn...

I'm so happy, 3:53.42am PST, Drunk, [snip] on mood stabalizers..
responding to a thread from back "then".

new member.. blows my face off with some direction.
i'm glad it's all been cataloged before me.

To be honest man.. i feel it. ( nine cut at least ) strength, focus, harmony, preminition of danger, knowing the thoughts of others, mastery of time and space, control of the elements, *enlightenment*

obviously i'm not "there" on all of 'em.

What I'm hung up on is "SHA" the fourth cut. "the power to heal, and the power to kill." ...alll rolled into one. This "concept" drives me nuts guys. Like wolves or lions that pick off the sick.
The very same portion of wisdom that "provides, takes"

...flat...grey...divine...rumination...



I'm excited to see where this leads me.
oh my god... it's 4:20.48.....








[edit on 3-9-2006 by sanctum]

Take anything written by Mr. Kim with a huge grain of salt.

Both Kuji-in (the 9 hand postures or Mudras) and Kiji-kiri (the 9 cuts) are, within the tradition of Ninpo, a combination of meditation (internal) and primitive magic (external), used by the shinobi-no mono ("ninja") to draw the energy of their surroundings into themselves, alos centering themselves (kuji-in), and then to send out a shield of spiritual protection and awareness (kuji-kiri), to aid them in their mission. This way they were connected with their environment and the environment was connected with them, that they would be better able to remain unseen, unheard, and undetected spiritually and physically while gathering information and moving through hostile territory.