January 6th report shows disturbing trend (nobody is shocked)

a reply to: BingoMcGoof

The plan as I have seen it is simple. He marches with his protestors. He has 10,000 armed troops there under his command. Violence breaks out near or at the Capital, ostensibly by counter protestors or international agents, and his life and those of the law makers inside need protection immediately.

Do you really think that was Trump's intention? Really?

a reply to: Comingback2024

Please link us to where I said he might. OK? I have no memory of having done so.

a reply to: fringeofthefringe

As a person who takes available information in attempts to draw conclusions on the state of reality which of course includes the rise and fall of power structures though history, yes, I consider that a conspiracy worth consideration.

originally posted by: BingoMcGoof
What should be clear here to everyone is that yes, Trump had made a public statement that he wanted National Guard brought up for Jan. 6th.

But the reason he said this was nothing more than a publicity stunt. He wanted to paint the picture that the damn liberals were going to attack his peaceful demonstrators. He did not request NG to protect the Capital FROM his supporters but only to protect them from counter demonstrators. Counter demonstrators who did not show up in any sizable number.

Thankyou for clearing that up! I was wondering why President Trump would tell Miller he wanted the demonstrators "protected". I think hero Kyle Rittenhouse had successfully shut down the liberal rioters in October of 2020.

originally posted by: BingoMcGoof
a reply to: Comingback2024

Please link us to where I said he might. OK? I have no memory of having done so.

Down at tha bottom of page 1 Bo I mer and you and you defend it atop of page 2.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: BingoMcGoof

"Fill it and do whatever necessary to protect the demonstrators",

This is not an order from the president to bring thousand troops to DC. It is an order to do what was necessary to protect the demonstrators. Apparently all down the line, charged with executing these orders deemed that no additional troops were needed to protect those demonstrators so in reality, the orders were carried out because there was no necessity to do more than what was done.

That is the very definition of an order. Ask anyone who served in any branch. If they were told this by a superior officer, would they consider it an order? Coupled with the context of the conversation, That was an order. I do not know on what authority that order was not followed through with, but I suspect that will find itself out over time.

a reply to: Comingback2024

Ah,,,,,no, though thanks for finding those posts of mine for me. I read them over again, being as you were so kind yet found no comments by myself that I defended the idea that he might invade Greenland.

originally posted by: BingoMcGoof
a reply to: Comingback2024

Please link us to where I said he might. OK? I have no memory of having done so.

Boomer1947 said this

In this case, and assuming Trump isn't just bloviating, it looks like the only two options are 1) negotiate a deal with Denmark/Greenland for a peaceful, business-like acquisition (similar to the Louisiana Purchase from France or the Alaska Purchase from Russia) or 2) a military action to seize control by force of arms. Option 1 would require Congress to provide funds for the transaction and the Senate would have to ratify a treaty, but Denmark has already said they are not interested. Option 2 would actually be an act of war, and Congress would also have to get involved at some point to either fund it or refuse to fund it. By the way, since Denmark is a member of NATO, making war on Denmark/Greenland would be a US violation of the NATO treaty, which would get the US expelled from NATO and probably bring up impeachment charges again. The Senate would undoubtedly have a strong opinion about that.

And you defended it saying this

There was NOTHING stupid about that, that is unless one missed the opening sentence. Some, I guess, like Corey Lewandowski, consider Trump's ''out of the box'' comments as strategic or tactical in a manner in which a salesman might over inflate the price on a product only to get a better offer from the purchaser. This is clear. Yet, the manner in which these ''tactics'' flow from his mind appear to some to be random expressions of his own flitting mind, or as expressed by some, bloviating.

a reply to: network dude

An order issued by the Commander-in-Chief. With no paper trail? Is that the kind of ''order'' the rest of the military works with?

originally posted by: BingoMcGoof
a reply to: network dude

An order issued by the Commander-in-Chief. With no paper trail? Is that the kind of ''order'' the rest of the military works with?

Same with declassifying documents, just has to say it.

originally posted by: fringeofthefringe

Second, is the fact that at the time the discussion happened there was no reason to think that Trump's demonstrators would need protection to the tune of 10,000 NG troops.

a reply to: Boomer1947

Unless you are using the logic that having 10k National Gaurdsman there would be- Firstly, a deterent so any instigators or agitators making them less inclined to act out as intended. Secondly, others would be less inclined to jump in and join a scuffle or aggresively protest because of the National Gaurds presence.
So, yea, the 10k National Gaurd would protect the peaceful protesters/demostrators against "mob mentality" instigated by undercover provocateurs.

Plus.
It’d be pretty hard to get 10k guardsmen to be on board with the plan that DC police had (or were ordered) to let protestors into the Capitol building.

Seems like it’d definitely be more of a deterrent than allowing individuals to peruse the halls of Congress in an entrapment scenario with the Natl Guard there.

a reply to: network dude

If we take it on face value and agree it was indeed a setup, then how does that reflect on Trump? It would mean he walked right into it… hook, line and sinker.

Furthermore, it doesn’t make any sense that Trump was against a negative outcome and wanted the National Guard to keep it under control. Because why did he just not rile up the crowd in the first place?

originally posted by: BingoMcGoof
a reply to: network dude

An order issued by the Commander-in-Chief. With no paper trail? Is that the kind of ''order'' the rest of the military works with?

When a General or Colonel in the Marine Corps orders his subordinate officers to attack a hill in a battle, they don't wait around to see it in writing.

It would mean he walked right into it… hook, line and sinker.

a reply to: JadedGhost

"hook, line and sinker" implies they got him, right? Yet somehow he is president again. It looks like Trump had the last laugh, doesn't it? I think the never trumpers have underestimated Trump, they started to believe their own bullschitt.

Here Is the Only Video on January 6 You Need to Watch to Understand Who Was Responsible for the Violence that Day

The truth is coming

a reply to: SteamyAmerican

National Guard was there Jan6 and Jan7

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a reply to: JadedGhost

National Guard was there Jan6 and Jan7

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a reply to: Comingback2024

Thanks for helping me zero in on this Coming. As this conversation is getting very close to extreme drift, I will make my reply to you over there in that other thread, OK? See you there.

a reply to: fringeofthefringe

Fare point of discussion yet not exclusive of the other possiblity.

a reply to: RazorV66

So are you comparing a heated battle on a hill in battle to Trump expressing a desire to have US troops on active duty on American soil? I see no comparison here Razor. None. Especially as the ''threat'' was not real, but only, as history has made clear was the case, there was no threat beyond Trump's own mind.

January 6, 2025

In an attempt to tarnish the certification of President-elect Donald Trump today, President Biden's Attorney General is now saying FIVE OFFICERS DIED in the line of duty related to the January 6, 2021 protest. The actual number of law enforcement deaths is ZERO. 

A.G. Garland unhinged: mustreadalaska.com...

Garland is so afraid of what's coming for him, he's lashing out irrationally. GOOD! 😈