NJ Drones tied to Tesla explosion at Trump Las vegas

a reply to: fringeofthefringe

I do agree on anything being possible. And I am more than supportive of the idea that we (mankind) will discover things we never imagined possible...sometime in the future. But it's that last part about the future which is key. We're just not there yet. So, please don't interpret my words as suggesting these things will 'never' happen; all I"m saying is they are not possible right now.

edit - And maybe to frame this a little better (as well as my previous answer about why it wouldn't be kept secret), think about it like this...

A scientific breakthrough like anti-gravity (anything) would be so revolutionary to ALL of mankind that even the simplest example of such a thing would command almost worldwide attention virtually overnight. If for no other reason, this attention would be focused on understanding it better so we could figure out how to utilize this technology to benefit mankind. The way to understand something better is to get more eyes on it, more brains working on it, and different points of view. Practically every area of research would be focused on this like a laser beam because it has just that wide of a potential impact. So, kind of in other words, it would not be limited in use to a military technology even though it would have great benefits to the military...and the rest of humanity.

The other thing to remember here is, the military (in and of itself) is not a research institution. They are a war fighting machine, so they outsource their scientific research to the scientific community. The military simply doesn't have the resources and facilities to do this research themselves.

a reply to: worldstarcountry

I heartily agree with almost everything you stated. I guess I'm still not making the connection about putting a mixture of 'crazy' in with the thing you want to expose in a manifesto.

However, I totally agree with your statements about governmental smokescreens, obfuscation and diversion. Those are very real, and they happen every day.

You do make a valid point though with respect to the possibility that the manifesto is not genuine, and that it was crafted by parties looking to make him 'appear' to be crazy so that anything else which might be found in the future from him would just be dismissed out of hand. That is a definite possibility. Kind of like a smear campaign and a bit of an 'insurance' policy.

Lastly, the Ft. Bragg connection, the rental car company, and the tours of duty coincidences are definitely something which needs to be fully fleshed out. Those alone raise enough eyebrows to warrant thorough further investigation.

So, please don't interpret my words as suggesting these things will 'never' happen; all I"m saying is they are not possible right now.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk
I just like throwing my 2 cents in but as I've said before I appreciate your contributions here. The community seems to have shrunk over the years so it's nice to have a back and forth. I have learned a lot from these discussions-this site.

a reply to: fringeofthefringe

Likewise, I greatly value discussions here, and I learn a lot of things here also! There are some very bright people here! Very.

a reply to: YouSir

Remember...he allegedly committed suicide by self inflicted gun shot prior to the explosion.

I don’t think so, the person next to the truck didn’t move or flinch before the explosion went off. If someone had just shot off a gun next to you wouldn’t that get your attention or would you just stand there like nothing had happened? Whoever it was didn’t budge an inch before the explosion, at least from what I can tell, I’ve watched it numerous times.

If he did shoot himself, I think he did it simultaneously with the explosion, maybe deadman’s switch.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: fringeofthefringe

I do agree on anything being possible. And I am more than supportive of the idea that we (mankind) will discover things we never imagined possible...sometime in the future. But it's that last part about the future which is key. We're just not there yet. So, please don't interpret my words as suggesting these things will 'never' happen; all I"m saying is they are not possible right now.

edit - And maybe to frame this a little better (as well as my previous answer about why it wouldn't be kept secret), think about it like this...

A scientific breakthrough like anti-gravity (anything) would be so revolutionary to ALL of mankind that even the simplest example of such a thing would command almost worldwide attention virtually overnight. If for no other reason, this attention would be focused on understanding it better so we could figure out how to utilize this technology to benefit mankind. The way to understand something better is to get more eyes on it, more brains working on it, and different points of view. Practically every area of research would be focused on this like a laser beam because it has just that wide of a potential impact. So, kind of in other words, it would not be limited in use to a military technology even though it would have great benefits to the military...and the rest of humanity.

The other thing to remember here is, the military (in and of itself) is not a research institution. They are a war fighting machine, so they outsource their scientific research to the scientific community. The military simply doesn't have the resources and facilities to do this research themselves.

Can you say NDA?Military uses first,good of mankind...no laughing at the back!Please,way down the list.

a reply to: glen200376

Yes, I can say "NDA". I know them well; I work with them daily. But that's not the point. The point is, the science would be out "in the wild" long before the military application of the science would be covered by an NDA. "In the wild" is a term used in the secrecy community to refer to something which is out in the public domain and not protected by governmental classification.

I don’t think you wholly understand the consequences of if they had actual anti gravity tech. My original statement holds. If you had the tech you wouldn’t have any reason to use submarines. You would be in space. You would have the moon you would already be disabling everything possible in terms of enemy satellites.

But keep believe the Chinese are using subs to deploy anti gravity tech over New Jerseys to scare people.


a reply to: BeyondKnowledge3

a reply to: Athetos

Even more...if you had anti-gravity tech, there would be no need for war at all. Just the reduction in fuel consumption alone would change the entire world economy. The economic value of such technology would be so unimaginably stupendous that it would get used for millions of other things before it would be used for military drones.

originally posted by: Athetos
I don’t think you wholly understand the consequences of if they had actual anti gravity tech. My original statement holds. If you had the tech you wouldn’t have any reason to use submarines. You would be in space. You would have the moon you would already be disabling everything possible in terms of enemy satellites.

But keep believe the Chinese are using subs to deploy anti gravity tech over New Jerseys to scare people.


a reply to: BeyondKnowledge3

But that does not take into consideration that they may have limited range because of energy limits. If they will only work for 1000 miles on a fill-up or the charge, they can't work from space.