NJ Drones tied to Tesla explosion at Trump Las vegas

How strange is this? Stranger and stranger.
Thee frenzy that seemed to have faded over the holidays may come back with a bang after the New Jersey phenomenon was linked to the Tesla Cybertruck blast at the Trump hotel in Las Vegas.

In a Dec. 31 email that the FBI believes was likely written by the Army soldier who died in the Jan. 1 explosion, Matthew Livelsberger, 37, says the drones in New Jersey were being operated by China.

The Colorado man also left a note saying the explosion was merely a stunt to serve as a “wakeup call” for the country’s ills. He also said he needed to “cleanse my mind” of the lives lost of people he knew and “the burden of the lives I took.”
But it was an email circulated by podcaster Shawn Ryan that was getting attention in New Jersey.
In the email, which investigators acknowledged during a news conference, Livelsberger says the drones are "operational use of gravitic propulsion systems powered aircraft by most recently China in the east coast, but throughout history, the US."

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a reply to: bscotti

That particular carbon unit seems particularly odd. He was burned beyond recognition and yet somehow in the cab his ID was still in tact (albeit 50 or so percent). Things of this nature are confusing and will probably remain so. I despise that.

Its as all things are, kept in the dark and shat upon.

If the drones are from China submarines, and the Pentagon briefing to Congress and President-elect Trump didn't reveal this, we (the USA) are in a world of trouble, due to "the enemy within".

originally posted by: WeMustCare
If the drones are from China submarines, and the Pentagon briefing to Congress and President-elect Trump didn't reveal this, we (the USA) are in a world of trouble, due to "the enemy within".

I think sometimes that there are people with money and time to make things ridiculous on a constant basis. Its like being in a slow motion criminal issue where you have to be kept on constant edge, regardless of your part of the "crime". Its annoying and I am sure almost all of us have had enough of it.

Really its just too many theorticians calling the shots. Something like that.

More on this issue specifically:

www.zerohedge.com...

"The details surrounding Cybertruck bomber Matthew Livelsberger continue to drip - with two 'manifesto' letters found in the Cybertruck itself, and another 'manifesto' he allegedly emailed to retired intelligence officer Sam Shoemate.

In the letters found in the Cybertruck, Livelsberger described the USA as "terminally ill," and said his actions were meant as a "wake-up call," and not a terrorist attack."

a reply to: berbofthegreen

The email in question:

"In case I do not make it to my decision point or on to the Mexico border I am sending this now. Please do not release this until 1JAN and keep my identity private until then. First off I am not under duress or hostile influence or control. My first car was a 2006 Black Ford Mustang V6 for verification. What we have been seeing with “drones” is the operational use of gravitic propulsion systems powered aircraft by most recently China in the east coast, but throughout history, the US. Only we and China have this capability. Our OPEN location for this activity in the box is below. China has been launching them from the Atlantic from submarines for years, but this activity recently has picked up. As of now, it is just a show of force and they are using it similar to how they used the balloon for sigint and isr, which are also part of the integrated comms system. There are dozens of those balloons in the air at any given time. The so what is because of the speed and stealth of these unmanned AC, they are the most dangerous threat to national security that has ever existed. They basically have an unlimited payload capacity and can park it over the WH if they wanted. It’s checkmate. US needs to give the history of this, how we are employing it and weaponizing it, how China is employing them and what the way forward is. China is poised to attack anywhere in the east coast I’ve been followed for over a week now from likely homeland or FBI, and they are looking to move on me and are unlikely going to let me cross into Mexico, but won’t because they know i am armed and I have a massive VBIED. I’ve been trying to maintain a very visible profile and have kept my phone and they are definitely digitally tracking me. I have knowledge of this program and also war crimes that were covered up during airstrikes in Nimruz province Afghanistan in 2019 by the admin, DoD, DEA and CIA. I conducted targeting for these strikes of over 125 buildings (65 were struck because of CIVCAS) that killed hundreds of civilians in a single day. USFORA continued strikes after spotting civilians on initial ISR, it was supposed to take 6 minutes and scramble all aircraft in CENTCOM. The UN basically called these war crimes, but the administration made them disappear. I was part of that cover-up with USFORA and Agent [redacted] of the DEA. So I don’t know if my abduction attempt is related to either. I worked with GEN Millers 10 staff on this as well as the response to Bala Murghab. AOB-S Commander at the time [redacted] can validate this. You need to elevate this to the media so we avoid a world war because this is a mutually assured destruction situation. For vetting my Linkedin is Matt Berg or Matthew Livelsberger, an active duty 18Z out of 1-10 my profile is public. I have an active TSSCI with UAP USAP access."

What to make of this?

A couple of things to consider:
!. the Tesla truck could drive itself and park in front of the hotel..no human driver required
2. Musk claims the truck is bullet proof...Matt wanted attention and not mass murder, thus the truck contained most of the explosion.
3. Matt was a tier One operator and could have built an IED that would have taken the whole front of the hotel off and damaged other building near and far
4. The crispy critter found in the truck cab does not have the same DNA as Matt's (supposedly) son
5. There is no sound or flash of a gun from the cabin of the truck (big pistol big flash) so the dead person may not be Matt (DNA once again)
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a reply to: berbofthegreen


Ummm...it sounds like the babbling of an unhinged mind...if you want me to be quite honest.

If he was burdened by even a fraction of what he described then the mind created ghosts of all his innocent victims could have been enough to send him over the edge of sanity...

Remember...he allegedly committed suicide by self inflicted gun shot prior to the explosion...which would belie his desire to flee to Mexico...or overpower his future planning...

Who knows what might be influencing a mans thought train in the face of self induced guilt...and shame...and remorse...


As to the Drones...I'm not convinced that his explanation wasn't a fabrication of his own mind as it created illusions in it's unhealthy state...Or a programmed response...

Stating that Chinese subs are launching gravity drive drones along the eastern seaboard seems a touch too...contrived...designed to follow along with the..."Bad China"...narrative being foisted on the greater unwashed by...Daddy.gov...


But the plebs will swallow any narrative that the talking box regurgitates...that's a given...









YouSir

I hadn't seen this thread before I replied similarly to the main thread on the Trump building bombing. So, sorry for any replication. And, I also watched the Shawn Ryan podcast. I have to take Shawn Ryan with a bit of salt though because he is kind of a drama queen.

However, the one thing I think notable for this thread is the focus of Ryan's interview with Shoemate, or maybe it's better to say...what wasn't the focus, but came to light, during the interview.

Shoemate focused on his theory that the main reasoning behind Livelsberger's actions was his desire to expose the botched (or intentional) 2019 drone strike on an Asskrackistan illegal drug making facility. Apparently the target was not sanctioned as enemy combatants and therefore an illegal strike (per Shoemate) (I personally think it was a good thing, but that's another post). It's Shoemate's opinion that Livelsberger had tried previously to get this event out into the light of day though official channels but was rebuffed by military command. Therefore, he allegedly (again per Shoemate) decided to bring the issue to light by going out in a blaze of glory in front of the Trump building.

The part where this theory breaks down is where Livelsberger (man, that's a tough name to remember how to spell) goes off the deep end with his claims of gravity defying drones capable of 'unlimited' payloads and how all of this will change humanity as we know it. Regardless of whatever credible message the bomber (not writing his name anymore) wanted to convey in his manifesto, he completely flushed it down the toilet with these incredible other-worldly drone claims. In the end, the bomber (Livelsberger) just winds up looking like a raving madman, thus his efforts at exposure were in vain.

Secondly, and maybe it's just me, but if I'm sitting on some 'explosive' revelation like some covert operation gone sideways, and I want to see it get exposed, why would I want to blow myself up to tell that story? I wouldn't, right? Unless...I was crazy to begin with; then I might. So, that makes no sense.

Lastly, the notion that the bomber put someone else's body in the car and then 'auto-drove' it to the Trump tower to blow up, makes even less sense. Why would someone do this...at all??? How would this help expose the Asskrackistan thing in any way, shape or form? And...if that was even remotely possible, then it would mean the bomber was in fact part of some larger government conspiracy covering for some crazy thing we don't even know about yet.

I agree why use a sub to launch your anti gravity UFO. It like trying to shoot a a rifle a round with a bow and arrow.

a reply to: YouSir

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Lastly, the notion that the bomber put someone else's body in the car and then 'auto-drove' it to the Trump tower to blow up, makes even less sense. Why would someone do this...at all???

Well if he was caught off guard or by surprise during one of his stops and killed a man, he could just throw that man in the truck, set the auto-pilot and accomplish the same goals he alleges to convey in this manifesto as he would had he sacrificed himself. The point was to draw attention, not necessarily suicide.

So that is an easy answer. It only sounds fanciful because it sounds like a Hollywood plot. Art imitates life. People would have called us crazy for saying America could be subverted by agents working for foreign governments, but the Biden administration has proved that all true. Perhaps this guy was a loose end the cabal was trying to take out like Michael Dorner and the kill on sight order given for a long time police officer from California. That is a pretty harsh thing to do, issue a kill on sight order against a Police officer. Or that American Citizen that was drone bombed in Yemen under Obama. I wonder what he knew that he was personally authorized to be assassinated by Obama without charge, indictment, outstanding warrant or anything. A quick series of Buzz words and sound bytes aided by the media assassinated his character and killed any credibility to investigating that incident independently. Both of those happened under Obama, and now his puppet surrogate in his last days we are seeing more witness eliminations.

For all we know, NOLA truck rammer guy could have been after a single person on orders and just threw in the rest for a good cover-up .

a reply to: bscotti

I'm hearing that this guy sent an email out. And in the email it he was claiming that the drones are chinese anti gravitics. And they were a show of force.

Take that with a grain of salt.

a reply to: Athetos

The same reason the USA launched the bombers from the carriers in the Doolittle rade in WW2. The aircraft don't have the range to be launched from friendly bases. They have to move in bases close enough to operate..

I am not as doubting the sub or gravity drive as much as the power source for an unlimited payload. China would not risk loosing one on American soil because they would be giving away their technological secrets.

There are no big unexplained holes in the ground as proof the Chinese lost one. Nothing is 100% reliable in the real world for as long and in numbers claimed for the drones.

a reply to: worldstarcountry

Okay, all that's plausible. So, why throw in the anti-gravity drones with omnipotent powers and little green men into the mix then? (just joking about the little green men, but you get the tone). In other words, if he wanted to draw attention to something, why include a bunch of crazy lunatic stuff.

I can tell anyone who wants to listen, right now, there is no such thing as an anti-gravity, well, anything. Not anywhere in the observable Universe, and certainly not here on Earth. If there was such a thing, even something remotely close, it would not be possible to keep it secret. Just from the scientific angle alone, it wouldn't be possible to conceal such a capability. This isn't like some secret plane, or some radar absorbing material...we're talking about something which would fundamentally re-write some of the laws of physics here! That's not something which is going to be something which can be kept secret.

Let's use the atomic bomb as an example. Sure, the Manhattan Project kept a viable 'bomb' itself secret, but the physics of atom splitting was well known at the same time. What was kept secret was the weaponizing of splitting the atom. Big difference.

a reply to: BeyondKnowledge3

I am not as doubting the sub or gravity drive as much as the power source for an unlimited payload.

I sure as hell am!!

This right here makes me go, Hmmmm, now the story becomes stupid sounding...
(from FCD)

The part where this theory breaks down is where Livelsberger (man, that's a tough name to remember how to spell) goes off the deep end with his claims of gravity defying drones capable of 'unlimited' payloads and how all of this will change humanity as we know it. Regardless of whatever credible message the bomber (not writing his name anymore) wanted to convey in his manifesto, he completely flushed it down the toilet with these incredible other-worldly drone claims. In the end, the bomber (Livelsberger) just winds up looking like a raving madman, thus his efforts at exposure were in vain.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: BeyondKnowledge3

I am not as doubting the sub or gravity drive as much as the power source for an unlimited payload.

I sure as hell am!!

Some may describe dirigible drones as anti gravity because of the helium providing the lift. Ether by lack of understanding or mistranslation.

Truly the opposite of unlimited payload antigravity though. Still, they could carry tiny cameras and other instruments for spying while being faster and more maneuverable than balloons. And almost silent.

a reply to: WeMustCare

Precisely!

A subject that I've reiterated for decades on ATS.

Let it be known, those who knew, tried...

🇺🇲

a reply to: baddmove

Could the nutty part be thrown in as a psy op? Fool the public by letting some information out that is about to be revealed but in a way they would never believe?

Some government agencies seem to specialize in this.